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14 hours ago, storm319 said:

Based on Tony’s blog post, it appears that this new ball lab initiative is going to be limited to physical measurements of the actual ball, not robotic swing testing. Due to the fact that MGS does not have the equipment to support a robotic swing test at their own facility along with the current public health situation and the fact that only a few companies have released new urethane models for 2020 thus far, it may be a while before we see a follow up to last year’s buyers guide.

Also, based on their IP investment over the past 20+ years it is unlikely that Callaway would ever stop selling balls (regardless of the influence people may think that a single 3rd party test has).

I understand the testing.....a lot of balls have already been released but you can use last years models to test quality if you want.   The callaway comment was in jest

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38 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

I understand the testing.....a lot of balls have already been released but you can use last years models to test quality if you want.   The callaway comment was in jest

The Chrome soft X is still not available... Now part of that is due to the factory being closed. I am curious if we will see it before the end of the summer. 

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On 4/10/2020 at 9:56 AM, PMookie said:


Mannnnnnnnn, can’t wait to see which ball maker is surprised by the results of this one!!! Time to pop some popcorn!


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Golf Ball Guts' recent post on Instagram might just provide a little sneak peak of what we may see over the coming weeks/months

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The results of the mid range balls is what interests me. Namely the Taylormade tour response (project a) and Qstar tour balls. Will be interesting to see if there's differences in quality between them and the top of the line tour balls.

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4 hours ago, 2puttbogey said:

The results of the mid range balls is what interests me. Namely the Taylormade tour response (project a) and Qstar tour balls. Will be interesting to see if there's differences in quality between them and the top of the line tour balls.

Did they say that they would be testing mid range balls? In the past, they have mentioned that they don't test mid-range balls for the ball test because no one should be playing a mid range ball. Basically, if you only want to spend $35/ dozen, then you're better off using one of the tour level balls that sells at that price rather than a non-urethane cover mid range titleist or TM ball.

Personally, I'm not certain that is true.  In my mind I could see a scenario where a $35 DTC tour ball doesn't perform any better than some mid range ball from someone else, especially when you add in the quality issues discovered this year. 

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On 5/1/2020 at 1:08 PM, LakeCowboy said:

I'd love to see a new box of ProV1 2019 vs ProV1 2017 vs ProV1 2015 in the lab tests and the same for Chrome Softs and TP5's, etc.

Yes. Love this too to see if they really change things all that much


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2 hours ago, ChitownM2 said:

Did they say that they would be testing mid range balls? In the past, they have mentioned that they don't test mid-range balls for the ball test because no one should be playing a mid range ball. Basically, if you only want to spend $35/ dozen, then you're better off using one of the tour level balls that sells at that price rather than a non-urethane cover mid range titleist or TM ball.

Personally, I'm not certain that is true.  In my mind I could see a scenario where a $35 DTC tour ball doesn't perform any better than some mid range ball from someone else, especially when you add in the quality issues discovered this year. 

I believe @2puttbogey was using mid range as a reference to lower priced urethane offerings, not ionomer. 

I also believe that the MGS comments were more of a reference to cover material rather than price (especially considering the fact that the Kirkland 3-piece ball was included). The only exceptions really were the Titleist Tour Soft and Callaway ERC Soft that were likely only included due to the fact that they are very overpriced (my guess is that they would not have been included if they had been priced under $30). 

Relative to past construction paradigms, the solid multilayer era have a relatively small variance in spin, launch, and ball speed off the tee (larger variances in spin will be seen on lower speed shots which is where the cover has the primary impact).

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13 hours ago, storm319 said:

I believe @2puttbogey was using mid range as a reference to lower priced urethane offerings, not ionomer. 

I also believe that the MGS comments were more of a reference to cover material rather than price (especially considering the fact that the Kirkland 3-piece ball was included). The only exceptions really were the Titleist Tour Soft and Callaway ERC Soft that were likely only included due to the fact that they are very overpriced (my guess is that they would not have been included if they had been priced under $30). 

Relative to past construction paradigms, the solid multilayer era have a relatively small variance in spin, launch, and ball speed off the tee (larger variances in spin will be seen on lower speed shots which is where the cover has the primary impact).

This is correct. I was referring to urethane cover balls.

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While we don't know exactly what is being tested,  Some of Tony's twitter posts seem to provide indication that no ball is exempt from being tested.

 

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This was great, all of the ball test that Tony has done is amazing. The conclusion I came up with I don't think there is anyone that loves testing golf balls more then Tony. 

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Are Harry and Miranda an item????

I would say no since they are married. I only think of being an item prior to being married.
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6 minutes ago, cnosil said:


I would say no since they are married. I only think of being an item prior to being married.

lol..i had no idea.....so they are an item!!!

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3 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

lol..i had no idea.....so they are an item!!!

I would say that is as official as it gets. 

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After listening to the latest edition of NO PUTTS, it seems as if Callaway is once again off to a bad start with the new ball.......we'll see how it pans out in relation to the other major brands

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4 hours ago, Tsecor said:

Are Harry and Miranda an item????

Go back one more episode of NPG.  Miranda's response to Harry being in the studio to get a break from being stuck at home with his wife sound like she's friends with Harry's wife.  

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9 minutes ago, AmishJason said:

Go back one more episode of NPG.  Miranda's response to Harry being in the studio to get a break from being stuck at home with his wife sound like she's friends with Harry's wife.  

I'm pretty sure they are married.

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From the last No Putts Given episode they wanted people to send in suggestions. If they are going to publish any sorts of tables etc. it should also have an option for metric measurements.


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5 hours ago, THEZIPR23 said:

I'm pretty sure they are married.

Yes,  they are married.

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24 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Yes,  they are married.

Yup. They posted it all over social media last year so not really a big secret though they are oddly discreet about it on the podcast 

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