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Just a quick update [emoji3]

Golf is back on the menu in England but with no practice area and social distancing. So that means that I’ve been able to get 5 rounds in but no practice.
So I’ve probably hit my new toy about 40 times.

I haven’t been able to get on a launch monitor, so have set up the driver lie angle, loft and moveable weights to my “best guess”

And it seems to be working, more or less. I’ve gained distance - according to Arccos. Up from 252 yards smart distance with my Ping G series driver (which was fitted by my club pro when it came out in 2016) to 274 yards with the Mizuno ST190G.

It’s early days but I’m enjoying hitting it and it seems to fit - so [emoji1360] truegolffit so far!

I’ll post again when I’ve got more games under my belt and have hopefully been able to get on the launch monitor [emoji3]IMG_3241.JPGIMG_3242.JPG


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WITB: Driver - Ping G400 Max 9 Degree, VA Slay X-Stiff Shaft   5 Wood - Ping 18 Degree, Ping Alta Stiff shaft   Irons - 4 & 5 Mizuno MP20 HMB, 5 to PW, Mizuno MP20 MMC, KBS C Taper Lite Stiff Shafts + 1 inch 1 degrees upright   Wedges - Ping Tour-W 54 & 58 Degree, AWT stiff steel shafts + 1/2 inch 3 degrees upright  Putter - Ping Sigma2 Tyne 35"

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Curiosity over came me and I finally paid to see what the results were.  I was surprised that I wasn't recommended one of the drivers from the 2020 Driver test that had the smallest dispersion.  I figured entering a high handicap would point me in the direction of the Cobra Speedzone Extreme since it was rated the most forgiving driver.  Instead I got the regular Speedzone as my #1 and the Ben Hogan GS53 as my #2.  Neither of which are as high up on the forgiveness chart.  Regardless, demo club time!

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Driver: Cobra Speedzone 10.5 Mitsubishi AV Blue S flex

Wood: Cobra Bio Cell 3-4 Grafalloy Pro Launch Blue (low launch original version) S flex

Hybrids: Taylormade GAPR 3 KBS graphite shaft

              Strata 4 and 5 hybrids R flex

Irons: Strata 6-PW R flex

Wedges: Texan Classics 52, 56, 60 R flex

Putter: Odyssey Red Ball mallet

Ball: Srixon Q Star Tour

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I wasn’t sure about the shaft and at a past fitting (for hybrids) a lighter shaft was the way to go (65g for the hybrid)

So, as I used to have a 55g shaft in my Ping, I’ve got a 50g Tensei Orange Stiff in it to try.
One round in and I’m optimistic.
I really must get to the driving range and on a launch monitor though [emoji849]IMG_3337.JPG


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WITB: Driver - Ping G400 Max 9 Degree, VA Slay X-Stiff Shaft   5 Wood - Ping 18 Degree, Ping Alta Stiff shaft   Irons - 4 & 5 Mizuno MP20 HMB, 5 to PW, Mizuno MP20 MMC, KBS C Taper Lite Stiff Shafts + 1 inch 1 degrees upright   Wedges - Ping Tour-W 54 & 58 Degree, AWT stiff steel shafts + 1/2 inch 3 degrees upright  Putter - Ping Sigma2 Tyne 35"

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Just in case I misread. The TrueFit went well, but are you saying you did or didn't match the shaft recommendation?

Or did and then switched....  

Just trying to decipher how accurate you felt it was.  It is highly intriguing to me, as my fittings have not gone well. Produced the worst clubs I've played with in my golfing life.

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WITB

Drivers: Cobra F9 w/Atmos

FW: Cleveland HiBore 3W

Hybrid: Titleist driving iron, Titleist hybrid

Irons: Ping Eye2 3-S & TA 845s 3-W

Wedge: Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 56 ES s300

Putter: Ping Zing 2 33.75" , Anser 3

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Just in case I misread. The TrueFit went well, but are you saying you did or didn't match the shaft recommendation?
Or did and then switched....  
Just trying to decipher how accurate you felt it was.  It is highly intriguing to me, as my fittings have not gone well. Produced the worst clubs I've played with in my golfing life.


Hi,

I matched the shaft exactly for the TrueFit.

I got the distance increase (sometimes) that TrueFit advised. But I wasn’t accurate with it. Less accurate than my old Ping driver in fact.

That’s why I decided to experiment with the Tensei Orange at 10g lighter than the recommended Tensei Blue.
And it hasn’t worked. I’m still inaccurate with it no matter where I put the weights and with either shaft 🤷🏼‍♂️



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WITB: Driver - Ping G400 Max 9 Degree, VA Slay X-Stiff Shaft   5 Wood - Ping 18 Degree, Ping Alta Stiff shaft   Irons - 4 & 5 Mizuno MP20 HMB, 5 to PW, Mizuno MP20 MMC, KBS C Taper Lite Stiff Shafts + 1 inch 1 degrees upright   Wedges - Ping Tour-W 54 & 58 Degree, AWT stiff steel shafts + 1/2 inch 3 degrees upright  Putter - Ping Sigma2 Tyne 35"

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I tried truegolffit yesterday and was quite disappointed with the result.

Main reason: I naturally hit a draw and got fit for a draw biased driver. Not looking to hitting even bigger draws or hooks :(.

I think it is a major flaw that this cannot be taken into account.

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4W: Ping G25

4i: TM P790 (DG 120 S400)

5i-PW: TM P770 (DG 120 S400)

50/56/60: Cleveland RTX Zipcore (DG Spinner)

Putter: Ping Sigma2 Arna

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5 hours ago, Jasper279 said:

I tried truegolffit yesterday and was quite disappointed with the result.

Main reason: I naturally hit a draw and got fit for a draw biased driver. Not looking to hitting even bigger draws or hooks :(.

I think it is a major flaw that this cannot be taken into account.

That could definitely be an issue 

 

 

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19 hours ago, Jasper279 said:

I tried truegolffit yesterday and was quite disappointed with the result.

Main reason: I naturally hit a draw and got fit for a draw biased driver. Not looking to hitting even bigger draws or hooks :(.

I think it is a major flaw that this cannot be taken into account.

I can’t remember what questions are asked. Is your current shot shape not asked?

WITB: Driver - Ping G400 Max 9 Degree, VA Slay X-Stiff Shaft   5 Wood - Ping 18 Degree, Ping Alta Stiff shaft   Irons - 4 & 5 Mizuno MP20 HMB, 5 to PW, Mizuno MP20 MMC, KBS C Taper Lite Stiff Shafts + 1 inch 1 degrees upright   Wedges - Ping Tour-W 54 & 58 Degree, AWT stiff steel shafts + 1/2 inch 3 degrees upright  Putter - Ping Sigma2 Tyne 35"

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6 hours ago, pooley7 said:

I can’t remember what questions are asked. Is your current shot shape not asked?

I've been trying to find the answer to your question as well since I'd like to know what information I have to input to get results.  I looked on the site and can't seem to find what questions I need to be able to answer.  I would assume that you would need some pretty detailed information like swing speed, angle of attack, club path, etc all of which I would need a launch monitor for.

Can someone provide a recap?  

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41 minutes ago, ChitownM2 said:

I've been trying to find the answer to your question as well since I'd like to know what information I have to input to get results.  I looked on the site and can't seem to find what questions I need to be able to answer.  I would assume that you would need some pretty detailed information like swing speed, angle of attack, club path, etc all of which I would need a launch monitor for.

Can someone provide a recap?  

I went through the questions, anyone can, you just have to pay for the results. I thought the questions were to general to give any kind of accurate guidance to which club and shaft to use. I'm thinking, this could be dangerous, that you could just go to their driver review page and see what they recommend for your swing speed and come up with the same answer.

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I tried it with very disappointing results. It came back with the exact Driver/Shaft I was gaming. So basically, I paid for nothing. When I wrote to ask about this anomaly I was told “Aren’t you glad it affirms what you are using?” Um, no, I tried it because I can’t hit it worth s***. It affirmed nothing. 
 

PS, went to a Ping G425 max with excellent results. Thanks for nothing TGF. 

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42 minutes ago, 1puttpar said:

I tried it with very disappointing results. It came back with the exact Driver/Shaft I was gaming. So basically, I paid for nothing. When I wrote to ask about this anomaly I was told “Aren’t you glad it affirms what you are using?” Um, no, I tried it because I can’t hit it worth s***. It affirmed nothing. 
 

PS, went to a Ping G425 max with excellent results. Thanks for nothing TGF. 

Why would a professional club fitter use TGF? Seems like you would have better tools at your disposal. 

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1 hour ago, Snapjack said:

I went through the questions, anyone can, you just have to pay for the results. I thought the questions were to general to give any kind of accurate guidance to which club and shaft to use. I'm thinking, this could be dangerous, that you could just go to their driver review page and see what they recommend for your swing speed and come up with the same answer.

I went through and answered them and I think the point of this is to get you the best driver for your specs *considering* that you don't have some major swing flaw that you are fighting.  It's assuming that you deliver the ball with a reasonable path and making contact reasonably near the sweet spot.  If you are not doing those things, then you are probably out of luck as there is only so much that AI (basically a fancy algorithm) can do.  

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I decided to give this TGF "fitting" a try, mostly out of curiosity and it's only $9.00, so what the heck give it a shot. I answered 4 fairly general  questions, what's your handicap, swing speed, angle of attack and tempo, (not exactly pin pointing my swing) I clicked on the pay for button and a few seconds later got my results. The first recommendation is the Mizuno ST-X with a Fujikura Motore X F3 60 stiff shaft, with this club I would pickup 6.52 yards and be 8.03% more accurate. The second choice is the Titleist TSi4 with a Mitsubishi Tensei AV raw Blue 58 stiff shaft, this is where it gets interesting. According to TGF, I would pickup 19.20 yards but only increase my accuracy by 3.31 %, I questioned the results I was told the Mizuno's accuracy was more important than the Titleist's distance. The problem I have with all of this is TGF doesn't know how accurate I am with my existing driver,(no question on accuracy in the survey) do I play a fade or a draw. I might be another Fred Funk with my driver and stink up the place with my chipping and putting, keeping my handicap up. One day somebody might develop and online fitting that works, until then go see a club fitter that knows what he's doing. Finally, if TGF's recommendations were spot on how many golfers out there would forgo a 19.2 yard increase and opt for the club giving them another 6.5 yards, Bryson DeChambeau wouldn't (bomb and gouge baby, bomb and gouge).

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I tried to get a fitting and it threw an error on the shaft weight (it looked like).  I tried to run through the questions again and got the same result.  Now I have purchases listed in my billing tab, but haven't seen any clubs still.  I've gone through the help link/contact email and nothing...  

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TGF should be viewed as a way for you to spend $10 to get an idea of 1 or 2 drivers to demo. Any assumption those would be the best fit for an individual is wishful thinking. 

I was able to fit myself into better off the rack options than the top 2 suggestions (M5 and G410). To be fair, their 2nd place suggestion (G410) likely would have been my next selection or close to it. (TS3 or Epic Flash would have been close). 

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Recently sprung for the $9 driver fitting from True Golf Fit.  It recommended the Callaway Epic Speed 10.5 w/Hazardus Smoke 50gm shaft.  Well, I called the local Dick's Sporting Goods who happened to have the exact club in stock.  So, I take my PXG 0811 XF 10.5 w/Tensei 50 gm shaft right on over and, after a warm up, hit 20 balls with each in 5 ball alternate groups.  Well, I'm 79 years old, a towering 5' 7" tall and 175 lbs. with an 88 mph swing speed.  There wasn't a nickel's worth of difference between the results.  I kept the $530 for the new Callaway in my pocket.

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WIMB:

  • Driver: PXG 0811 XF 10.5 set to 9 w/Tensei 50 R flex
  • PXG 0317 X 3H 19 w/Mitsubishi Chemical 70 R flex
  • Cleveland Launcher 4-PW XL Halo R flex irons
  • Cobra Speed Zone GW R flex
  • Cleveland 54 & 58 CBX R flex 
  • Cobra Supernova putter
  • Maxfli Tour CG
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