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What would you rather put in your bag 2 iron or hybrid why or why not?

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I don't know many who can legitimately hit one and honestly how many club manufacturers are even making them anymore. tech has taken us so far why would you go backwards other than to say hey look I gots a 2 iron. Id say its just a waste of space in the bag. Hybrid or wood will give u better results. especially for 98-99 percent of us on here...


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I’ll go with a 2 utility iron over a hybrid or traditional 2 iron. They’re nearly idiot proof; it’s point and shoot.


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I’m rolling with a 2 utitly iron, but mainly because of wind. Where I play, 25+mph winds are typical on any given day, and hitting high floating hybrids just doesn’t work out well. (Not to mention I struggle to hit them.) But having a club that I can use for a reliable stinger both off the tee and on some par 5s is quite valuable.

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I think you have to try out both. No matter what your handicap, if you hit your long irons well and consistency, check out the utility irons. If you cannot, maybe a higher launching (and softer landing) hybrid is the right choice. I actually have both in my bag. My Callaway Rogue irons are 5-AW so I have a TaylorMade Gapr Lo 4 iron in my bag as well as a Callaway Rogue hybrid 19 degree. I also own a Gapr Lo 2 iron but struggle with consistency. I generally only put it in the bag for extremely windy days (very good for punching out though!). 

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1 hour ago, Cruskater said:

I think you have to try out both. No matter what your handicap, if you hit your long irons well and consistency, check out the utility irons. If you cannot, maybe a higher launching (and softer landing) hybrid is the right choice. I actually have both in my bag. My Callaway Rogue irons are 5-AW so I have a TaylorMade Gapr Lo 4 iron in my bag as well as a Callaway Rogue hybrid 19 degree. I also own a Gapr Lo 2 iron but struggle with consistency. I generally only put it in the bag for extremely windy days (very good for punching out though!). 

This.  It seems like the choice of hybrid or long iron is based upon handicap but theres plenty of mid handicappers who play long irons quite well, myself included and back in the old days, before hybrids were invented (modern ones anyways), people managed to figure out how to hit long irons, so its not impossible.

IMO, a lot of it is that people are told that theyre supposed to be playing hybrids and have a mental image that long irons are impossible to hit unless you are highly skilled, so they dont even really bother to try.

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I'm currently in the 2 iron category with a 2 g410 crossover. Absolutely love it, however with all that being said I will be open and willing to look at a hybrid for this upcoming season. Currently Cobra is top of the list for it's versatility.

The crossover has been a great club and when I'm on with it hard to find a better club for me off the tee, that being said it does have moments where it's well tricky.

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On 4/18/2020 at 1:43 AM, Blake Alexander said:

Just looking for what people personally prefer I’d rather have an iron so I could use it off tee as well as if I needed to punch out of somewhere just all around. 

First off, welcome to the forums!

Secondly... you obviously haven't seen how low I can hit a hybrid, so I'll forgive you.  The only way a 2 iron (in current lofts) is getting into my bag is if some sad sap forgets it on the tee box and I toss it in there to bring it to the club house! 🤣

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2 iron. I can't hit it or a hybrid, but at least it'd be a great club to punch out with 😆

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2-irons are for golfers with the club speed to get them in the air.  If you don't have the speed, hybrids are the choice, or maybe a high-lofted FW.  I have to hit hybrids, and I can hit them low or high, and they go reasonably straight.  A 2-iron goes straight also, but it doesn't go high enough to be any use other than off the tee, and I can hit hybrids just as far.

That doesn't mean that higher swing speed players would choose a 2-iron over a hybrid.  Many like hybrids, and they are very popular on tour especially with the Champions tour.  If someone doesn't hit a hybrid very well, it's likely that particular club doesn't fit their swing.  Other hybrids might be a better choice.  I was selected a few years ago to test the new Ben Hogan hybrid.  I can hit most hybrids about the same, but that one was no good for me; no altitude and always a fade.  If I had a 2-iron, I would hit it better.  So don't give up on hybrids.  They are very useful clubs, but get the one that fits your swing.

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2-irons are for golfers with the club speed to get them in the air.  If you don't have the speed, hybrids are the choice, or maybe a high-lofted FW.  I have to hit hybrids, and I can hit them low or high, and they go reasonably straight.  A 2-iron goes straight also, but it doesn't go high enough to be any use other than off the tee, and I can hit hybrids just as far.
That doesn't mean that higher swing speed players would choose a 2-iron over a hybrid.  Many like hybrids, and they are very popular on tour especially with the Champions tour.  If someone doesn't hit a hybrid very well, it's likely that particular club doesn't fit their swing.  Other hybrids might be a better choice.  I was selected a few years ago to test the new Ben Hogan hybrid.  I can hit most hybrids about the same, but that one was no good for me; no altitude and always a fade.  If I had a 2-iron, I would hit it better.  So don't give up on hybrids.  They are very useful clubs, but get the one that fits your swing.

Bingo.

A gigantic a-ha moment was Tiger putting a 5 wood in play to replace the 2 iron.

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2 iron no doubt.  I hit a 2 iron off the tee and KNOW where it is going, even when I miss I know where it will go.  My hybrid I can't say the same thing.  I can hook that club as quick as I can fade it.  I carry both, a 2 iron and a 3 hybrid but I rarely hit the hybrid because of this. 


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Neither for me. I had my fitting and we landed on the 5 wood being the best option.

The best way to find the answer is to try for yourself. Get fitted, or do a self-fitting by trying out the different options.

Also, know what you want the club to do. Is it for the tee box only, is it for rescue shots, long approaches, etc. That can help you narrow down your choices.


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I generally have a high launch with my natural swing so I've been fitted into mostly low launch/trajectory clubs. The hybrid works well for me from fairway or first cut but I've had more success with a long iron off the tee and in the thicker rough. Again, as many have said, there is no one size fits all approach. My hybrid (19*) carry distance is a bit further than the 4 iron (22*), but when you take into account total distance (and the roll of the 4 iron), they are not overly different. I added the 4 iron because I wanted to close the gap between my 5 iron and my hybrid. 


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I am one of those lucky golfers who can hit a 2 iron, even a 1 iron and I have several in the cupboard. When I had  to change my clubs from Wilson blades I found that the majority of clubs had changed there lofts. So my Wilson 3 Iron 21 Degrees was now my Callaway Steelhead Pro 4 iron and hence the 3 iron is close to a 2 iron at 19 degrees. I ended up also getting an 18 degree hybrid as it has a longer shaft than a 3 iron.

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I have a 20* Adams Proto G hybrid and a Mizuno 18* cut muscle FliHi I switch between. Adams is typically high with draws bias for me. The FliHi is low with fade bias. Both are similar total distance. I switch between both depending on course and playing conditions. 

 

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It depends on the courses you play as well as your ability off the tee to find the fairway. How thick is the rough? If the course has medium to thick rough, I would prefer to put a hybrid in the bag. Its a club you can still hit off the tee and will save you when playing from the rough. If the course has little to no rough and is a links style course then a 2 iron would be in my bag. The hybrid is a lot more versatile in the types of lies you can use it. While the 2-iron gives you more workability and control of the ball. I put a GaparLo 2-iron in my bag because I play on a lot of courses with med to little rough and it is a little bit more versatile then a regular 2-iron. Its kind-of-a mix between the two.


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Hands down a hybrid. Works off the tee, works off the fairway, works from off the fairway in most situations better than a 2 iron, can be used for bump and runs around the green easier, works better from tight lies. The scenarios (off the top of my head) where a 2 iron (I'm assuming a contemporary-style utility 2 iron) might have an advantage is if you are an extremely high launch, high spin player, or if you are a player who can often hook a ball. Certain models of hybrids can exaggerate a hook, but just choose a model without huge draw bias.


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2 iron. I cannot hit a hybrid, no clue why, just can’t do it!


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Good read below. Overall for me I preferred irons before I found the right hybrid for me (also I got better at golf lol). Hybrid for sure, works fantastic off the tee and can hit it from any lie really. 

https://www.golf-monthly.co.uk/gear/gear-blog/hybrid-v-utility-iron-v-long-iron-carry-142562

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Given that golf is a difficult game at the best of times, I’d opt for whichever type of club gives you the best result, most often. A 2 iron is an intimidating club unless you play off single figures I’d say. Hybrids are, by design, more forgiving and have a greater utility on the course in general.

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