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I agree about the SW and LW which is why I excluded them from my example.  The lofts are close enough to not consider.  But lofts are important.
It makes a big difference to me if someone like [mention=4406]BIG STU[/mention] says he's using a 7i, maybe 8i.  He says he's using "traditional" lofts.  Since I know about what those lofts are, I can compare my choices with his.  In my case it's 9i, maybe PW.  To use your case it wouldn't make much difference to me if I used my 5i, 6i, or 7i; they are 22-26º loft.  I doubt yours are that strong.  Since I don't know what lofts others have, I can't get a reasonable comparison, and until I posted my clubs' lofts, people would get the wrong impression of what I use for the shot.
Since nobody knows what clubs everyone else has, a comparison really can't be made except it's either high lofted or medium lofted.
The bump 'n run shot is a very useful shot when very close to the green, and it is probably the safest shot for people with poor short game skills.  The key is knowing your clubs, judging the green roll-out, and hitting your spot on the green.  When you play the same course all the time, it's easier to judge and you become cognizant of which clubs work best on certain greens.  However, if you play at many different courses with different green conditions, that skill can become inconsistent.  That is the main reason I choose to use lofted clubs, carry the ball to a spot closer to the hole, and allow the ball to run out from there.

Loft is probably meaningless as well someone that bumps and runs with ball back and lots of forward press may have significantly less loft that a lower numbered club that is played forward in the stance.

I think technique comes more into play. Does the person move ball position, change clubface orientation, forward press, etc. or do they play same ball position and focus on consistent carry and specific rollout.

I try to look at ball flight, landing spot, and necessary rollout. That will dictate the club. My favorite is the one that enables me to execute the shot in my head. Most times, I hate them all!

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Played this morning 20mph winds and I had this thread in my head on every shot that missed the green which was often. GW saw the most action because most of the greens were elevated.


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8i for the bump and run. 

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1 minute ago, cnosil said:


Loft is probably meaningless as well someone that bumps and runs with ball back and lots of forward press may have significantly less loft that a lower numbered club that is played forward in the stance.

I think technique comes more into play. Does the person move ball position, change clubface orientation, forward press, etc. or do they play same ball position and focus on consistent carry and specific rollout.

I try to look at ball flight, landing spot, and necessary rollout. That will dictate the club. My favorite is the one that enables me to execute the shot in my head. Most times, I hate them all!

Great point!  I don't strike the ball very well when it's back in my stance, so I tend to play slightly forward of middle which is probably why I prefer lofted clubs.  

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Where I play there are very few trees or structures to block the continuous 20+mph wind from the west. I’ll play a bump and run with a half swing 4 iron from 100 yards if it’s a quartering wind to a narrow green. Predicting anything but a 100% pureknock-down wedge is tough in those conditions.
For most around the green sort of bump and runs I want to carry just onto the fringe and let it roll the rest of the way, and adjust the club accordingly. A “stock” shot for me would be a forward press with an 8-iron, essentially turning it into a 7i, then holding the face off. Don’t want any hook spin on it at all, or you’ll watch your bump and run keep running. 

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I like the 8 Iron for these types of shots... I seem to be able to control it better and not blast it across the green. I have tried a hybrid from time to time, but the length of the club throws me off. 

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46 minutes ago, Kenny B said:

I agree about the SW and LW which is why I excluded them from my example.  The lofts are close enough to not consider.  But lofts are important.

It makes a big difference to me if someone like @BIG STU says he's using a 7i, maybe 8i.  He says he's using "traditional" lofts.  Since I know about what those lofts are, I can compare my choices with his.  In my case it's 9i, maybe PW.  To use your case it wouldn't make much difference to me if I used my 5i, 6i, or 7i; they are 22-26º loft.  I doubt yours are that strong.  Since I don't know what lofts others have, I can't get a reasonable comparison, and until I posted my clubs' lofts, people would get the wrong impression of what I use for the shot.

Since nobody knows what clubs everyone else has, a comparison really can't be made except it's either high lofted or medium lofted.

The bump 'n run shot is a very useful shot when very close to the green, and it is probably the safest shot for people with poor short game skills.  The key is knowing your clubs, judging the green roll-out, and hitting your spot on the green.  When you play the same course all the time, it's easier to judge and you become cognizant of which clubs work best on certain greens.  However, if you play at many different courses with different green conditions, that skill can become inconsistent.  That is the main reason I choose to use lofted clubs, carry the ball to a spot closer to the hole, and allow the ball to run out from there.

Yeah we definitely play different lofts The p790 7i is 30* and my miura cb 301 is 32*, the i210s I reviewed here was 31.5* and the 718 cb I had was 35*.   had no issue choosing any of those for the same bump and run distance. 
 

There are other variables to consider like technique used such as shaft lean, toe down with shaft more straight up than standard setup, ball location.

When I see someone talk about their club used i just think of what they are generally trying to achieve. Short iron 9-7 as an example. They need to fly the ball higher too get on the green and there won’t be a lot of run out. 5-6 going lower flight and lots of green between the ball and the flag. 

Bump and run is a safe shot for many. I’ve had a couple instructors as well as guys I played with when I first started playing say get the ball on the green as quick as possible and let it roll like a putt.

 

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Depends on the situation but anything from a 5 iron down to a lob wedge.


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8-iron, or I'll take a 50degree and flatten the face and perform a putting stroke hitting only the top half of the ball.

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4 hours ago, Kenny B said:

I agree about the SW and LW which is why I excluded them from my example.  The lofts are close enough to not consider.  But lofts are important.

It makes a big difference to me if someone like @BIG STU says he's using a 7i, maybe 8i.  He says he's using "traditional" lofts.  Since I know about what those lofts are, I can compare my choices with his.  In my case it's 9i, maybe PW.  To use your case it wouldn't make much difference to me if I used my 5i, 6i, or 7i; they are 22-26º loft.  I doubt yours are that strong.  Since I don't know what lofts others have, I can't get a reasonable comparison, and until I posted my clubs' lofts, people would get the wrong impression of what I use for the shot.

Since nobody knows what clubs everyone else has, a comparison really can't be made except it's either high lofted or medium lofted.

The bump 'n run shot is a very useful shot when very close to the green, and it is probably the safest shot for people with poor short game skills.  The key is knowing your clubs, judging the green roll-out, and hitting your spot on the green.  When you play the same course all the time, it's easier to judge and you become cognizant of which clubs work best on certain greens.  However, if you play at many different courses with different green conditions, that skill can become inconsistent.  That is the main reason I choose to use lofted clubs, carry the ball to a spot closer to the hole, and allow the ball to run out from there.

Yep you nailed it different courses require different plans of attack

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2 hours ago, smittybambam said:

8-iron, or I'll take a 50degree and flatten the face and perform a putting stroke hitting only the top half of the ball.

Yep I do the same thing with a 56* wedge. I can also putt that way too. 

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I will never forget the tip taught to me by an old guy named Doc on how to hit this shot. He told me to get an 8 iron ,"Grab onto it like you wanted a lady to grab onto you" and use a putting stroke. 8 iron is the play for any bump I hit, feel like I can really control it.

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For a true bump and run a 7 iron. For this scenario it’s a 54* all day for me.


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I often putt from off the green and actually saw an Instagram post from Golf magazine about Jack Nicklaus' putting from off the green. I probably would putt from as far back as 5-10 yards if it was on a tight lie and no rough in between. I use a hybrid from around this distance if the grass is a bit longer or out of the rough and mimic my putting stroke. From further out I will do a low bump and run pitch with my 7 iron or AW (50*).

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On 4/20/2020 at 3:13 PM, Berg Ryman said:

I will never forget the tip taught to me by an old guy named Doc on how to hit this shot. He told me to get an 8 iron ,"Grab onto it like you wanted a lady to grab onto you" and use a putting stroke. 8 iron is the play for any bump I hit, feel like I can really control it.

Same.  I dont understand why everyone nowdays wants to pull out their lob wedge and hit a high, spinny chip that goes nowhere.

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47 minutes ago, Cruskater said:

I often putt from off the green and actually saw an Instagram post from Golf magazine about Jack Nicklaus' putting from off the green. I probably would putt from as far back as 5-10 yards if it was on a tight lie and no rough in between. I use a hybrid from around this distance if the grass is a bit longer or out of the rough and mimic my putting stroke. From further out I will do a low bump and run pitch with my 7 iron or AW (50*).

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Same here.  If I am on the fringe of if it is a tight fairway, I will always pull out my putter because your safest chip is a putt.

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Depending on where the flag is located, it will be a 7i if the flag is on the opposite of the green, a 9i if it's somewhere in the middle and a LW if it's tight around the fringe where I'm standing.

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PW. Stand it straight up, toe down, and off the big toe of the rear foot.


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