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39 minutes ago, Lacassem said:

See I consider a bump and run anything where your getting 1 check and rolling. Can be from 30 yards out on an elevated green. Bump into the elevation and run onto the green....but the definition below leans towards more what you’re saying. I have always thought of bump and run from distanxe

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I had a feeling you were think that way. A chip could be a one bounce and run as could a pitch. In your example of a elevated green one could fly the fly the ball to the hole and use a hop and stop or fly it half way and let it release. Same from a 30-50 with a pitch shot.

but I’m more in line with what you posted and that a bump is exactly that a small bump of the ball close to the green. 

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13 hours ago, Shankster said:

In the scenario you described I would open up my 56° and play a high spinners there is no wind.

Wind? I’d hit a low one.

I am no good at judging distance on bump and run shots.

Samesies. Especially in the north east where the conditions vary day to day based on the rain. Some days the ball bounces from the apron onto the green and other days it just hits and stops. 

I'd love to get more creative with low shots and bump and runs from further off the green, but conditions and course layouts just aren't very conducive for that around here 

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It really depends upon the distance and how much carry and roll I want.  If its a short chip where I need to fly some rough, PW.  If Im right on the edge of the green and I want the ball to roll most of the way, 8-iron.

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One other consideration as everyone posts clubs other than SW and LW is the loft of the clubs you post.  People post 6i, 7i, 8i, 9i, even PW, but chances are that the loft of the iron you post is different than others with the same club.  Earlier I posted that if I don't use my 54 or my 60 (because I usually fly the ball closer to the hole) and want a true bump 'n run, I use my 9i.  However, I failed to mention that my 9i is 33º, which is likely a 7i for many of you.

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I'm a fan of this sort of system. After a while you get the hang of what your number is. Most of the time I use 11 as my key number. Plus if it's downhill etc. I adjust accordingly.

 

 

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For me it depends on the course and the shot. Most of the time it is the 7 iron but can be the 8  iron or PW--- And remember guys I play older traditional lofted clubs so your modern 8 iron is like my 7 iron. With all of that being said if conditions dictate that putter will be in my hand when ever possible

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Samesies. Especially in the north east where the conditions from vary day to day based on the rain. Some days the ball bounces from the apron onto the green and other days it just hits and stops. 
I'd love to get more creative with low shots and bump and runs from further off the green, but conditions and course layouts just aren't very conducive for that around here 


Yes sir. I grew up playing on a cornfield course where the fairways and everything else for that matter was a highway in the summer. Used to play a lot of running shots, but I’ve lost the touch for anything other than a chip from the fringe.

Where I’m at in Maryland now, I’ve had the wind change directions so many times I gave up trying to figure out any sort of pattern. It’ll be 20 out of the south in the morning, then 10 from the north in the afternoon, then west in the evening.

And like you said, the course I play and some of the hole locations a bump and run is impossible unless you want to be 50+ feet away.
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10 hours ago, Kenny B said:

One other consideration as everyone posts clubs other than SW and LW is the loft of the clubs you post.  People post 6i, 7i, 8i, 9i, even PW, but chances are that the loft of the iron you post is different than others with the same club.  Earlier I posted that if I don't use my 54 or my 60 (because I usually fly the ball closer to the hole) and want a true bump 'n run, I use my 9i.  However, I failed to mention that my 9i is 33º, which is likely a 7i for many of you.

To me that’s not an issue. I’ve played blades, cavity backs, GI and players distance irons. It’s a simple approach. The amount of green to run thru and the speeds determines what club I use. The goal is to get it on the green about 1/3 of the way and let it run out. A fast green with lots of green to work with I’ll go anywhere from a 9-7i in any of the sets. Slower greens and lots of runout a 7-5. the thought of me having a blades 7i or a stronger one in the p790 never enters my mind. While it’s not the same touch and feel as a pitch shot the concept still applies if knowing what landing spot and what the ball will do when it lands. 
 

People get hung up on loft way to much imo. For some a sw is 54 and others it’s a 56, lob wedge for some is 58 others 60. If someone says they use a sw to play a certain shot it doesn’t matter to me what loft they are using I know what spot on the bag it refers to

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16 hours ago, ForTheLoveofTheGame said:

Great question! Elevated green 20yards front to back, fringe is mowed super tight. Middle pin. 15-20 yards out. 

If I'm understanding your scenario, (and I'm doing this math to show my thought process) I'm 10 yards away from the front of the green and have 10 yards of green to work with. With the green sloping front to back, I'm wanting to have the chip not run past the hole so my putt is an uphill putt. I'll want something that doesn't roll too much after it lands on the green. 

I would use my 56* and look to have the ball fly 15yds. Playing into the uphill slope should prevent the ball from rolling out too far and at the worst, (hopefully) I'm left with a 15ft putt.

As to my favorite club for a bump and run, I use my 7i most often for a bump and run. Most of my bump and runs, I play when I'm only a few feet off the green and use a putting stroke. I have tried using longer clubs with less loft, but find I have better control with the 7i.

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17 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

To me that’s not an issue. I’ve played blades, cavity backs, GI and players distance irons. It’s a simple approach. The amount of green to run thru and the speeds determines what club I use. The goal is to get it on the green about 1/3 of the way and let it run out. A fast green with lots of green to work with I’ll go anywhere from a 9-7i in any of the sets. Slower greens and lots of runout a 7-5. the thought of me having a blades 7i or a stronger one in the p790 never enters my mind. While it’s not the same touch and feel as a pitch shot the concept still applies if knowing what landing spot and what the ball will do when it lands. 
 

People get hung up on loft way to much imo. For some a sw is 54 and others it’s a 56, lob wedge for some is 58 others 60. If someone says they use a sw to play a certain shot it doesn’t matter to me what loft they are using I know what spot on the bag it refers to

I agree about the SW and LW which is why I excluded them from my example.  The lofts are close enough to not consider.  But lofts are important.

It makes a big difference to me if someone like @BIG STU says he's using a 7i, maybe 8i.  He says he's using "traditional" lofts.  Since I know about what those lofts are, I can compare my choices with his.  In my case it's 9i, maybe PW.  To use your case it wouldn't make much difference to me if I used my 5i, 6i, or 7i; they are 22-26º loft.  I doubt yours are that strong.  Since I don't know what lofts others have, I can't get a reasonable comparison, and until I posted my clubs' lofts, people would get the wrong impression of what I use for the shot.

Since nobody knows what clubs everyone else has, a comparison really can't be made except it's either high lofted or medium lofted.

The bump 'n run shot is a very useful shot when very close to the green, and it is probably the safest shot for people with poor short game skills.  The key is knowing your clubs, judging the green roll-out, and hitting your spot on the green.  When you play the same course all the time, it's easier to judge and you become cognizant of which clubs work best on certain greens.  However, if you play at many different courses with different green conditions, that skill can become inconsistent.  That is the main reason I choose to use lofted clubs, carry the ball to a spot closer to the hole, and allow the ball to run out from there.

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I agree about the SW and LW which is why I excluded them from my example.  The lofts are close enough to not consider.  But lofts are important.
It makes a big difference to me if someone like [mention=4406]BIG STU[/mention] says he's using a 7i, maybe 8i.  He says he's using "traditional" lofts.  Since I know about what those lofts are, I can compare my choices with his.  In my case it's 9i, maybe PW.  To use your case it wouldn't make much difference to me if I used my 5i, 6i, or 7i; they are 22-26º loft.  I doubt yours are that strong.  Since I don't know what lofts others have, I can't get a reasonable comparison, and until I posted my clubs' lofts, people would get the wrong impression of what I use for the shot.
Since nobody knows what clubs everyone else has, a comparison really can't be made except it's either high lofted or medium lofted.
The bump 'n run shot is a very useful shot when very close to the green, and it is probably the safest shot for people with poor short game skills.  The key is knowing your clubs, judging the green roll-out, and hitting your spot on the green.  When you play the same course all the time, it's easier to judge and you become cognizant of which clubs work best on certain greens.  However, if you play at many different courses with different green conditions, that skill can become inconsistent.  That is the main reason I choose to use lofted clubs, carry the ball to a spot closer to the hole, and allow the ball to run out from there.

Loft is probably meaningless as well someone that bumps and runs with ball back and lots of forward press may have significantly less loft that a lower numbered club that is played forward in the stance.

I think technique comes more into play. Does the person move ball position, change clubface orientation, forward press, etc. or do they play same ball position and focus on consistent carry and specific rollout.

I try to look at ball flight, landing spot, and necessary rollout. That will dictate the club. My favorite is the one that enables me to execute the shot in my head. Most times, I hate them all!
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Played this morning 20mph winds and I had this thread in my head on every shot that missed the green which was often. GW saw the most action because most of the greens were elevated.


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1 minute ago, cnosil said:


Loft is probably meaningless as well someone that bumps and runs with ball back and lots of forward press may have significantly less loft that a lower numbered club that is played forward in the stance.

I think technique comes more into play. Does the person move ball position, change clubface orientation, forward press, etc. or do they play same ball position and focus on consistent carry and specific rollout.

I try to look at ball flight, landing spot, and necessary rollout. That will dictate the club. My favorite is the one that enables me to execute the shot in my head. Most times, I hate them all!

Great point!  I don't strike the ball very well when it's back in my stance, so I tend to play slightly forward of middle which is probably why I prefer lofted clubs.  

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Where I play there are very few trees or structures to block the continuous 20+mph wind from the west. I’ll play a bump and run with a half swing 4 iron from 100 yards if it’s a quartering wind to a narrow green. Predicting anything but a 100% pureknock-down wedge is tough in those conditions.
For most around the green sort of bump and runs I want to carry just onto the fringe and let it roll the rest of the way, and adjust the club accordingly. A “stock” shot for me would be a forward press with an 8-iron, essentially turning it into a 7i, then holding the face off. Don’t want any hook spin on it at all, or you’ll watch your bump and run keep running. 

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I like the 8 Iron for these types of shots... I seem to be able to control it better and not blast it across the green. I have tried a hybrid from time to time, but the length of the club throws me off. 

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46 minutes ago, Kenny B said:

I agree about the SW and LW which is why I excluded them from my example.  The lofts are close enough to not consider.  But lofts are important.

It makes a big difference to me if someone like @BIG STU says he's using a 7i, maybe 8i.  He says he's using "traditional" lofts.  Since I know about what those lofts are, I can compare my choices with his.  In my case it's 9i, maybe PW.  To use your case it wouldn't make much difference to me if I used my 5i, 6i, or 7i; they are 22-26º loft.  I doubt yours are that strong.  Since I don't know what lofts others have, I can't get a reasonable comparison, and until I posted my clubs' lofts, people would get the wrong impression of what I use for the shot.

Since nobody knows what clubs everyone else has, a comparison really can't be made except it's either high lofted or medium lofted.

The bump 'n run shot is a very useful shot when very close to the green, and it is probably the safest shot for people with poor short game skills.  The key is knowing your clubs, judging the green roll-out, and hitting your spot on the green.  When you play the same course all the time, it's easier to judge and you become cognizant of which clubs work best on certain greens.  However, if you play at many different courses with different green conditions, that skill can become inconsistent.  That is the main reason I choose to use lofted clubs, carry the ball to a spot closer to the hole, and allow the ball to run out from there.

Yeah we definitely play different lofts The p790 7i is 30* and my miura cb 301 is 32*, the i210s I reviewed here was 31.5* and the 718 cb I had was 35*.   had no issue choosing any of those for the same bump and run distance. 
 

There are other variables to consider like technique used such as shaft lean, toe down with shaft more straight up than standard setup, ball location.

When I see someone talk about their club used i just think of what they are generally trying to achieve. Short iron 9-7 as an example. They need to fly the ball higher too get on the green and there won’t be a lot of run out. 5-6 going lower flight and lots of green between the ball and the flag. 

Bump and run is a safe shot for many. I’ve had a couple instructors as well as guys I played with when I first started playing say get the ball on the green as quick as possible and let it roll like a putt.

 

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Depends on the situation but anything from a 5 iron down to a lob wedge.


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8-iron, or I'll take a 50degree and flatten the face and perform a putting stroke hitting only the top half of the ball.

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4 hours ago, Kenny B said:

I agree about the SW and LW which is why I excluded them from my example.  The lofts are close enough to not consider.  But lofts are important.

It makes a big difference to me if someone like @BIG STU says he's using a 7i, maybe 8i.  He says he's using "traditional" lofts.  Since I know about what those lofts are, I can compare my choices with his.  In my case it's 9i, maybe PW.  To use your case it wouldn't make much difference to me if I used my 5i, 6i, or 7i; they are 22-26º loft.  I doubt yours are that strong.  Since I don't know what lofts others have, I can't get a reasonable comparison, and until I posted my clubs' lofts, people would get the wrong impression of what I use for the shot.

Since nobody knows what clubs everyone else has, a comparison really can't be made except it's either high lofted or medium lofted.

The bump 'n run shot is a very useful shot when very close to the green, and it is probably the safest shot for people with poor short game skills.  The key is knowing your clubs, judging the green roll-out, and hitting your spot on the green.  When you play the same course all the time, it's easier to judge and you become cognizant of which clubs work best on certain greens.  However, if you play at many different courses with different green conditions, that skill can become inconsistent.  That is the main reason I choose to use lofted clubs, carry the ball to a spot closer to the hole, and allow the ball to run out from there.

Yep you nailed it different courses require different plans of attack

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