cnosil Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I agree about the SW and LW which is why I excluded them from my example. The lofts are close enough to not consider. But lofts are important. It makes a big difference to me if someone like [mention=4406]BIG STU[/mention] says he's using a 7i, maybe 8i. He says he's using "traditional" lofts. Since I know about what those lofts are, I can compare my choices with his. In my case it's 9i, maybe PW. To use your case it wouldn't make much difference to me if I used my 5i, 6i, or 7i; they are 22-26º loft. I doubt yours are that strong. Since I don't know what lofts others have, I can't get a reasonable comparison, and until I posted my clubs' lofts, people would get the wrong impression of what I use for the shot. Since nobody knows what clubs everyone else has, a comparison really can't be made except it's either high lofted or medium lofted. The bump 'n run shot is a very useful shot when very close to the green, and it is probably the safest shot for people with poor short game skills. The key is knowing your clubs, judging the green roll-out, and hitting your spot on the green. When you play the same course all the time, it's easier to judge and you become cognizant of which clubs work best on certain greens. However, if you play at many different courses with different green conditions, that skill can become inconsistent. That is the main reason I choose to use lofted clubs, carry the ball to a spot closer to the hole, and allow the ball to run out from there.Loft is probably meaningless as well someone that bumps and runs with ball back and lots of forward press may have significantly less loft that a lower numbered club that is played forward in the stance. I think technique comes more into play. Does the person move ball position, change clubface orientation, forward press, etc. or do they play same ball position and focus on consistent carry and specific rollout. I try to look at ball flight, landing spot, and necessary rollout. That will dictate the club. My favorite is the one that enables me to execute the shot in my head. Most times, I hate them all! Kenny B and RickyBobby_PR 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Played this morning 20mph winds and I had this thread in my head on every shot that missed the green which was often. GW saw the most action because most of the greens were elevated. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy palvord 1 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titleist87 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 8i for the bump and run. Quote Fly Z+ UST Proforce V2 Black Golfsmith Jet Stream 3W UST Proforce V2 915 H3 Diamana Red 915 H4 Diamana Red Apex Edge Pro UST Recoil Dart Vokey SM6 50F/54S/58S Aerotech SteelFiber Huntington Beach 11S Pro V1 Bag Boy Chiller Bag Boy Quad XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, cnosil said: Loft is probably meaningless as well someone that bumps and runs with ball back and lots of forward press may have significantly less loft that a lower numbered club that is played forward in the stance. I think technique comes more into play. Does the person move ball position, change clubface orientation, forward press, etc. or do they play same ball position and focus on consistent carry and specific rollout. I try to look at ball flight, landing spot, and necessary rollout. That will dictate the club. My favorite is the one that enables me to execute the shot in my head. Most times, I hate them all! Great point! I don't strike the ball very well when it's back in my stance, so I tend to play slightly forward of middle which is probably why I prefer lofted clubs. cnosil and Rickp 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zrumble Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Where I play there are very few trees or structures to block the continuous 20+mph wind from the west. I’ll play a bump and run with a half swing 4 iron from 100 yards if it’s a quartering wind to a narrow green. Predicting anything but a 100% pureknock-down wedge is tough in those conditions. For most around the green sort of bump and runs I want to carry just onto the fringe and let it roll the rest of the way, and adjust the club accordingly. A “stock” shot for me would be a forward press with an 8-iron, essentially turning it into a 7i, then holding the face off. Don’t want any hook spin on it at all, or you’ll watch your bump and run keep running. Quote Stats: 5'4", Male, R-Handed, Moderate Tempo, Driver SS 115mph Driver: Taylormade SiM Max 9*, TM Ventus Blue 6X 3w/5w: Callaway X-Hot, S-flex Fubuki shafts 3h: Tour Edge EXS Pro, Smoke Black 80g 6.0 4i-PW: Mizuno MP-4, DG S300 Wedges: Titleist SM7 56* Wedge: Callaway Jaws w/ 12* of bounce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiburdie Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I like the 8 Iron for these types of shots... I seem to be able to control it better and not blast it across the green. I have tried a hybrid from time to time, but the length of the club throws me off. Quote Twitter: @bobbyburdette Instagram: bobbyburdette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 46 minutes ago, Kenny B said: I agree about the SW and LW which is why I excluded them from my example. The lofts are close enough to not consider. But lofts are important. It makes a big difference to me if someone like @BIG STU says he's using a 7i, maybe 8i. He says he's using "traditional" lofts. Since I know about what those lofts are, I can compare my choices with his. In my case it's 9i, maybe PW. To use your case it wouldn't make much difference to me if I used my 5i, 6i, or 7i; they are 22-26º loft. I doubt yours are that strong. Since I don't know what lofts others have, I can't get a reasonable comparison, and until I posted my clubs' lofts, people would get the wrong impression of what I use for the shot. Since nobody knows what clubs everyone else has, a comparison really can't be made except it's either high lofted or medium lofted. The bump 'n run shot is a very useful shot when very close to the green, and it is probably the safest shot for people with poor short game skills. The key is knowing your clubs, judging the green roll-out, and hitting your spot on the green. When you play the same course all the time, it's easier to judge and you become cognizant of which clubs work best on certain greens. However, if you play at many different courses with different green conditions, that skill can become inconsistent. That is the main reason I choose to use lofted clubs, carry the ball to a spot closer to the hole, and allow the ball to run out from there. Yeah we definitely play different lofts The p790 7i is 30* and my miura cb 301 is 32*, the i210s I reviewed here was 31.5* and the 718 cb I had was 35*. had no issue choosing any of those for the same bump and run distance. There are other variables to consider like technique used such as shaft lean, toe down with shaft more straight up than standard setup, ball location. When I see someone talk about their club used i just think of what they are generally trying to achieve. Short iron 9-7 as an example. They need to fly the ball higher too get on the green and there won’t be a lot of run out. 5-6 going lower flight and lots of green between the ball and the flag. Bump and run is a safe shot for many. I’ve had a couple instructors as well as guys I played with when I first started playing say get the ball on the green as quick as possible and let it roll like a putt. Rickp, cnosil and Kenny B 3 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmikecpa Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Depends on the situation but anything from a 5 iron down to a lob wedge. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote WITB 2024 Driver: Qi10 LS 9* Ltd. HZRDUS RDX Smoke Blue 60 TX Fairway: BRNR Mini Driver Copper 13.5* Evenflow Black 75g 6.5 Fairway: Sim 19* HZRDUS Red 75g 6.5 Hybrid: 0317x 22* KBS Proto 95x Irons: X Forged CB 5 - PW MMT 105 TX Wedges: Jaws Raw 50*, 54* & 58* TTDG "OG" Spinner Putter: Toulon Madison BGT Fire 34.75" Ball: Z Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smittybambam Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 8-iron, or I'll take a 50degree and flatten the face and perform a putting stroke hitting only the top half of the ball. BIG STU 1 Quote Driver: TM M1 9.5* Grafalloy BiMatrix Tour Prototype Woods: TM AeroBurner* Matrix Ozik RUL 60 Hybrids: Ping G Hybrid* Alta70 Irons: Mizuno JPS900* Project x 6.0 LZ (4-PW) Wedges: Titlest Vokey SM5 54,58 Putter: SeeMore SB2Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Kenny B said: I agree about the SW and LW which is why I excluded them from my example. The lofts are close enough to not consider. But lofts are important. It makes a big difference to me if someone like @BIG STU says he's using a 7i, maybe 8i. He says he's using "traditional" lofts. Since I know about what those lofts are, I can compare my choices with his. In my case it's 9i, maybe PW. To use your case it wouldn't make much difference to me if I used my 5i, 6i, or 7i; they are 22-26º loft. I doubt yours are that strong. Since I don't know what lofts others have, I can't get a reasonable comparison, and until I posted my clubs' lofts, people would get the wrong impression of what I use for the shot. Since nobody knows what clubs everyone else has, a comparison really can't be made except it's either high lofted or medium lofted. The bump 'n run shot is a very useful shot when very close to the green, and it is probably the safest shot for people with poor short game skills. The key is knowing your clubs, judging the green roll-out, and hitting your spot on the green. When you play the same course all the time, it's easier to judge and you become cognizant of which clubs work best on certain greens. However, if you play at many different courses with different green conditions, that skill can become inconsistent. That is the main reason I choose to use lofted clubs, carry the ball to a spot closer to the hole, and allow the ball to run out from there. Yep you nailed it different courses require different plans of attack FTR here are my lofts PW 47* 9 I 44* 8 I 41* 7 I - 37* Rickp and Kenny B 2 Quote Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, smittybambam said: 8-iron, or I'll take a 50degree and flatten the face and perform a putting stroke hitting only the top half of the ball. Yep I do the same thing with a 56* wedge. I can also putt that way too. Quote Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I will never forget the tip taught to me by an old guy named Doc on how to hit this shot. He told me to get an 8 iron ,"Grab onto it like you wanted a lady to grab onto you" and use a putting stroke. 8 iron is the play for any bump I hit, feel like I can really control it. ZenGolfer, Rickp, tony@CIC and 1 other 4 Quote In a Hoofer Lite bag TSR2, 10 degrees, A1 setting, Fujikara Speeder NX Blue 50-S Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Tour B-XS (2022 Model) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeathS16 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 For a true bump and run a 7 iron. For this scenario it’s a 54* all day for me. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver: TSi3 Tester Check out the Review HERE 2-Iron- 699-U 5-Wood: Pro (18*) Irons : i210 4-PW Wedges: RTX-4 50* and 54* RTX-3 *58 Putter: Impact No. 3 Ball: MAXFLI TOUR Tracked by: Bag: BagBoy ZTF Stand Bag (REVIEW HERE) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruskater Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I often putt from off the green and actually saw an Instagram post from Golf magazine about Jack Nicklaus' putting from off the green. I probably would putt from as far back as 5-10 yards if it was on a tight lie and no rough in between. I use a hybrid from around this distance if the grass is a bit longer or out of the rough and mimic my putting stroke. From further out I will do a low bump and run pitch with my 7 iron or AW (50*). ) from Quote Visit my blog! Cruskatergolf.com for reviews, pictures, travel tips, and more! Callaway Mavrik Subzero 9*, Project X Hrzdus Black 65 Callaway Big Bertha Fusion Fairway 15* Callaway Rogue Hybrid 19* TaylorMade Gapr Lo 4 Iron Callaway Rogue Irons (5-AW) Dynamic Gold X100 Callaway Mack Daddy 4 Wedges Ball: Vice Pro Plus / Bag: Sun Mountain 4.5 Cobalt Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenGolfer Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 On 4/20/2020 at 3:13 PM, Berg Ryman said: I will never forget the tip taught to me by an old guy named Doc on how to hit this shot. He told me to get an 8 iron ,"Grab onto it like you wanted a lady to grab onto you" and use a putting stroke. 8 iron is the play for any bump I hit, feel like I can really control it. Same. I dont understand why everyone nowdays wants to pull out their lob wedge and hit a high, spinny chip that goes nowhere. Rickp 1 Quote "I suppose its better to be a master of 7 than to be vaguely familiar with 14." - Chick Evans Whats in my Sun Mountain 2.5+ stand bag? Woods: Tommy Armour Atomic 10.5* Hybrid: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 3H Irons: Mizuno T-Zoid True 5, 7 and 9-irons Wedge: Mizuno S18 54* and Top Flite chipper Putter: Mizuno Bettinardi A-02 Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenGolfer Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 47 minutes ago, Cruskater said: I often putt from off the green and actually saw an Instagram post from Golf magazine about Jack Nicklaus' putting from off the green. I probably would putt from as far back as 5-10 yards if it was on a tight lie and no rough in between. I use a hybrid from around this distance if the grass is a bit longer or out of the rough and mimic my putting stroke. From further out I will do a low bump and run pitch with my 7 iron or AW (50*). ) from Same here. If I am on the fringe of if it is a tight fairway, I will always pull out my putter because your safest chip is a putt. Quote "I suppose its better to be a master of 7 than to be vaguely familiar with 14." - Chick Evans Whats in my Sun Mountain 2.5+ stand bag? Woods: Tommy Armour Atomic 10.5* Hybrid: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 3H Irons: Mizuno T-Zoid True 5, 7 and 9-irons Wedge: Mizuno S18 54* and Top Flite chipper Putter: Mizuno Bettinardi A-02 Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Depending on where the flag is located, it will be a 7i if the flag is on the opposite of the green, a 9i if it's somewhere in the middle and a LW if it's tight around the fringe where I'm standing. Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Chipper Quote Jazz woods (Driver & Hybrids), TNT Silver Eagle Irons, PW & SW, Slotline Inertia putter. TopFlite Gammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 PW. Stand it straight up, toe down, and off the big toe of the rear foot.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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