Best Shaft for High Launch?

[ForTheLoveofTheGame 10]

Currently gaming an M5 w/handcrafted 65gm 6.0 evenflow blue(LOOOOVE THE SMOOTH PROFILE). Swingspeed is 90-95mph so spin numbers are adequate but ball flight at times favors a piercing trajectory) Carry avgs around 240. I have a fujikura vista pro shaft and considering switching due to the high launch characteristics. Previously had this shaft in my TS3 and the dispersion was all over the map. Any suggestions??

[bens197 7,336]

If you love the Evenflow blue you should try the red. Same feel with a higher launch. It’s not as widely known but it’s out there and it’ll get you that higher trajectory with a familiar feel.

 

 

http://golfdealsandsteals.com/project-x-hand-crafted-evenflow-red-max-carry-driver-wood-shaft-choose-flex/

[RickyBobby_PR 6,193]

A piercing flight is what you kind of want. You want the ball to get to the apex and ride it for a while. Spin and launch go together and you could affect one or the other with the wrong setup.

what is your spin and launch? 

[dlow206 7,231]

5 hours ago, bens197 said:

If you love the Evenflow blue you should try the red. Same feel with a higher launch. It’s not as widely known but it’s out there and it’ll get you that higher trajectory with a familiar feel.

 

 

http://golfdealsandsteals.com/project-x-hand-crafted-evenflow-red-max-carry-driver-wood-shaft-choose-flex/

I've got one of these, it's a good shaft, I like it even better than the Blue.

But I just got a good deal on a Oban Kiyoshi Gold, so the Evenflow Red may go into the shaft bag in the garage.

[jaskanski 1,279]

10 hours ago, ForTheLoveofTheGame said:

Currently gaming an M5 w/handcrafted 65gm 6.0 evenflow blue(LOOOOVE THE SMOOTH PROFILE). Swingspeed is 90-95mph so spin numbers are adequate but ball flight at times favors a piercing trajectory) Carry avgs around 240. I have a fujikura vista pro shaft and considering switching due to the high launch characteristics. Previously had this shaft in my TS3 and the dispersion was all over the map. Any suggestions??

Yes - get fitted.

This is a classic case of self-appraisal for the purpose of buying and then asking for advice after the fact. Why not do the asking first and then purchase?

Anyway, without your exact numbers I would say that your swing speed is below what is required to get the most out of the Evenflow at 6.0 flex - you may want to look at something more flexible. Get a fitting pro to get the weight and shaft profile to match your swing dynamics and match it to your spin/loft and you will have the kind of trajectory your swing can produce. It's that simple.

[Golfmanufaktur 29]

Always keep in mind, that there is no guarantee, that the softer tip profile/softer middle profile will generate a higher launch for you. You might just not hit it consistently, since it doesn't fit your swing and feel preferences.

While in theory, shafts like Evenflow Red, HZRDUS Red, ACCRA 100 series, potentially raise your ballflight, if you can time them right. But reality is, that this isn't true for a couple of players. You might eventually see the oposite for you, cause you deliver the club in a certain way, that causes the high launch shaft to launch lower - I`ve seen that a couple of times in my years fitting golfclubs.

If you need to consistently higher your ballflight - use more loft. If you run into spin issues with a higher lofted club - check impact location first and potentially check out a different CoG head design.

Shafts can only do so much - if the head paramteres aren't good for you, no shaft can fix that.

Cheers,

Michael

[cnosil 17,944]

The other thing not discussed is to potentially reduce the shaft weight. I have found that going to a lighter weight shaft you might get more height.

Of course your timing has to be good and the shaft profile still has to be right, but you might get higher launch.

[Smellis745 530]

Another thing to consider is your angle of attack.  If you're attack angle is descending to neutral, at your swing speed, you won't get the ball much higher no matter what shaft you use.  You can always try a higher lofted head, but then you'll likely introduce more spin to the equation.  I saw it mentioned already, but just because a shaft says it's a higher launch, higher spin, doesn't mean that's the case for you.  Total weight, EI, balance point, etc... can all affect how you deliver the club.

[ForTheLoveofTheGame 10]

15 hours ago, jaskanski said:

Yes - get fitted.

This is a classic case of self-appraisal for the purpose of buying and then asking for advice after the fact. Why not do the asking first and then purchase?

Anyway, without your exact numbers I would say that your swing speed is below what is required to get the most out of the Evenflow at 6.0 flex - you may want to look at something more flexible. Get a fitting pro to get the weight and shaft profile to match your swing dynamics and match it to your spin/loft and you will have the kind of trajectory your swing can produce. It's that simple.

I would LOVE to get properly fit. Only issue is the only place in my town is Edwinn Watts...dont exactly trust them. Club Champion is 3hrs away from me so i hope to visit them sometime soon

[dlow206 7,231]

5 minutes ago, ForTheLoveofTheGame said:

I would LOVE to get properly fit. Only issue is the only place in my town is Edwinn Watts...dont exactly trust them. Club Champion is 3hrs away from me so i hope to visit them sometime soon

If you don't want to get fitted, you can go with my approach (not saying my approach is good).

Buy a shaft that theoretically fits the profile you are looking for, but make sure you get a good deal on Ebay or a similar site. If it doesn't work out for you, resell it and get most, if not all your money back. Or you can buy a shaft from my bag of shafts in the garage, I have a collection of "high" launching shafts, haha.

[PMookie 13,570]

Currently gaming an M5 w/handcrafted 65gm 6.0 evenflow blue(LOOOOVE THE SMOOTH PROFILE). Swingspeed is 90-95mph so spin numbers are adequate but ball flight at times favors a piercing trajectory) Carry avgs around 240. I have a fujikura vista pro shaft and considering switching due to the high launch characteristics. Previously had this shaft in my TS3 and the dispersion was all over the map. Any suggestions??

Get on this site, order a couple shafts for demo, and figure it out on the course and the range. No need to guess anymore!

https://www.shaftshack.com


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[B.Boston 11,107]

a lot of good points about fitting here already.  But if you like the feel of that shaft and just need slightly more launch can you bump to the next higher loft setting?  you could offset this by putting one of the weights in the toe to help slow rotation (if you found you were adding too much draw bias).  Launch and Spin should bump up a bit in theory.

If you haven't tried adjusting the weight and hosel settings I would try that first.

Best advice has been go see your fitter though... its the quickest and best way to get sorted out! 

[tvangel 15]

On 4/21/2020 at 8:33 AM, PMookie said:

Get on this site, order a couple shafts for demo, and figure it out on the course and the range. No need to guess anymore!

https://www.shaftshack.com


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Thank you for sharing the link to Shaft Shack.  I never knew a company like this existed.  I will give them a shot as soon as the driving ranges open again in Illinois for testing a new driver shaft.

[jlukes 14,096]

Chasing a shaft to increase launch could be futile, especially if you are simply seeking advice on the internet and not at a fitting.

Shafts dont directly impact launch.  They COULD impact how you deliver the club, which in turn increases launch, but how any given person will respond to a shaft change is not very predictable.

You wan't more launch? Loft up, or get a head that has the weight a bit more back and it will launch higher.  Chasing launch increases simply by changing shaft, without doing so under the watchful eye of a good fitter, would be an expensive experiment.

[RickyBobby_PR 6,193]

7 minutes ago, jlukes said:

Chasing a shaft to increase launch could be futile, especially if you are simply seeking advice on the internet and not at a fitting.

Shafts dont directly impact launch.  They COULD impact how you deliver the club, which in turn increases launch, but how any given person will respond to a shaft change is not very predictable.

You wan't more launch? Loft up, or get a head that has the weight a bit more back and it will launch higher.  Chasing launch increases simply by changing shaft, without doing so under the watchful eye of a good fitter, would be an expensive experiment.

Not to mention it could be swing related and not the shaft at all

[jlukes 14,096]

1 minute ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Not to mention it could be swing related and not the shaft at all

Exactly.  I still remember back in 2013 I chased equipment to solve my low launch issues.  You know what I learned years later when I opened my eyes to reality?  No amount of equipment was going to increase my launch and lower my spin with a - 5 degree angle of attack with the Driver

[zrumble 550]

TXG has great information on this. Fit your clubhead first as things like loft, CG, lie angle, etc affect the launch and spin conditions. Once you find a clubhead that gives you the 95% solution, you try to optimize your delivery of the clubhead with a shaft that feels good for your swing. 

IF you have a swing trait enhanced by a shaft that isn't suited for your game (causing you to smother the ball with your hands, excessive shaft lean, wrist snap though the ball, etc) you could POSSIBLY find the right shaft to optimize your delivery. Probably not going to find it without a lot of trial and error, or a good fitter. 

[jlukes 14,096]

4 minutes ago, zrumble said:

TXG has great information on this. Fit your clubhead first as things like loft, CG, lie angle, etc affect the launch and spin conditions. Once you find a clubhead that gives you the 95% solution, you try to optimize your delivery of the clubhead with a shaft that feels good for your swing. 

IF you have a swing trait enhanced by a shaft that isn't suited for your game (causing you to smother the ball with your hands, excessive shaft lean, wrist snap though the ball, etc) you could POSSIBLY find the right shaft to optimize your delivery. Probably not going to find it without a lot of trial and error, or a good fitter. 

Great post

[RickyBobby_PR 6,193]

22 minutes ago, zrumble said:

TXG has great information on this. Fit your clubhead first as things like loft, CG, lie angle, etc affect the launch and spin conditions. Once you find a clubhead that gives you the 95% solution, you try to optimize your delivery of the clubhead with a shaft that feels good for your swing. 

IF you have a swing trait enhanced by a shaft that isn't suited for your game (causing you to smother the ball with your hands, excessive shaft lean, wrist snap though the ball, etc) you could POSSIBLY find the right shaft to optimize your delivery. Probably not going to find it without a lot of trial and error, or a good fitter. 

Every fitter I’ve been to has taken this approach. I remember my Titleist Thursday fitting for the 917. He asked what I was looking for over my current driver and I told him I wanted to put a titleist driver back in the bag to have a full titleist bag at the time.

we started with the d2 head and a few based on my swing and numbers. We then moved onto the d3 to optimize the spin and we used the same shafts plus one additional one. We had 3 shafts narrowed down then he had me take a few swings with each again made a hosel adjustment and do the same. He asked my opinion on the shafts and told him I felt like 2 of them I had to work harder with and he said agree and that my tempo and swing with the shaft we ended up going with had me swing with my best tempo. Numbers between the 3 shafts were relatively the same and it really boiled down to what was the least effort to swing with.

[dlow206 7,231]

The approach to take when looking for the right shaft depends on your goal. If you are looking for the best shaft for you while being cost efficient, then go for the fitting. 

If you are like me, part of the fun is researching, trying different things out over time, getting good deals on ebay, etc., then go ahead and buy and try out some different shafts. The downside is this approach will cost more. I am a forever tinkerer, but that is part of what I enjoy about the game.