SkilledByDesign Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 7 hours ago, wegolfs said: Thanks, I’m likely to try Mevo+ as I can return or sell it if it doesn’t work out at my range. Regarding AoA measurement, I hit off of mats the majority of the time and I have trouble seeing ball flight from more than 160 yards out. This means that I need a launch monitor that measures AoA to practice effectively using anything longer than an 8 iron. For context, my AoA with irons averaged -7.5 and the driver was -4.5 in a recent Trackman session. I’d like to get the driver to neutral/positive and the irons to -4 (ish). Doing so should improve my long game, which is my biggest weakness despite my swing speed. Although I don’t any of these units, I’ve done some extensive research on which one I hope to buy in the future. Have found that my options for an affordable simulator are between the Mevo+ and the skytrak, but they use completely different tech. The Mevo+ uses Doppler like a typical launch monitor, while the Skytrak is a multi camera unit, similar to a gc quad. At this point, I am preferring the Skytrak as you can have it much closer to you and it seems more accurate (check this vid for comparison: ). Would love to hear some more thoughts on this Quote Obsessed with the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffleHouseTour Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 hours ago, SkilledByDesign said: my options for an affordable simulator are between the Mevo+ and the skytrak, but they use completely different tech The tech is different - but your ultimate questions (at least mine where) may be where you want to use it (indoor/outdoor) and space limitations. I wanted (had to) use it outdoors - so for me it was Mevo+. Quote Walking ahead of my BagBoy QuadXL w Alphard eWheels Driver: Callaway Mavrik SubZero 9* Neutral w stock Evenflow Riptide R flex shaft 3W Titelist TS2 15* Draw w Tensei Blue R flex 3H, 4H Cobra One Length F9 Speedback hybrids (1”short) w Fujikura Atmos R flex shaft 5I-GW Cobra Forged TEC Black One Length (1”short, 2* flat) KBS 90 R flex shafts 56, 60 Cobra King MIM One Length Black (1” short) KBS HiRev2.0 125 S flex shafts ER7 or Scotty Futura X - 35” OnCore Elixr (lemon or lime) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkilledByDesign Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, WaffleHouseTour said: The tech is different - but your ultimate questions (at least mine where) may be where you want to use it (indoor/outdoor) and space limitations. I wanted (had to) use it outdoors - so for me it was Mevo+. Could be wrong but, from what I read, I thought the Skytrak could be used outdoors as well. Found my info here: https://golfsupport.com/blog/skytrak-launch-monitor/ Quote Obsessed with the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgaudette Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, SkilledByDesign said: Could be wrong but, from what I read, I thought the Skytrak could be used outdoors as well. Found my info here: https://golfsupport.com/blog/skytrak-launch-monitor/ It can technically work but the camera struggles in brighter light so for many outside with sun does not work. Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | SMS 4-5/SMS Pro 6-PW Steelfiber i95 S (2023 Official Review) Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffleHouseTour Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 30 minutes ago, SkilledByDesign said: Could be wrong but, from what I read, I thought the Skytrak could be used outdoors as well. Technically, yes... but as @ejgaudettesaid, the sunlight causes havoc with the Skytrack lens. Lots of experiences on Golf Simulator Forum: https://golfsimulatorforum.com/forum/skytrak/68964-using-skytrak-outside-sunlight If it was known to work well outside, I would have purchased it because it requires less space for a set up. But my research led me to go with the Mevo+ (I can't swing a club inside, so I have to be outside) As with anything, your mileage may vary, but there is a reason their website advertizes themselves as "the ultimate indoor launch monitor"... Quote Walking ahead of my BagBoy QuadXL w Alphard eWheels Driver: Callaway Mavrik SubZero 9* Neutral w stock Evenflow Riptide R flex shaft 3W Titelist TS2 15* Draw w Tensei Blue R flex 3H, 4H Cobra One Length F9 Speedback hybrids (1”short) w Fujikura Atmos R flex shaft 5I-GW Cobra Forged TEC Black One Length (1”short, 2* flat) KBS 90 R flex shafts 56, 60 Cobra King MIM One Length Black (1” short) KBS HiRev2.0 125 S flex shafts ER7 or Scotty Futura X - 35” OnCore Elixr (lemon or lime) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegolfs Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 4 hours ago, SkilledByDesign said: Although I don’t any of these units, I’ve done some extensive research on which one I hope to buy in the future. Have found that my options for an affordable simulator are between the Mevo+ and the skytrak, but they use completely different tech. The Mevo+ uses Doppler like a typical launch monitor, while the Skytrak is a multi camera unit, similar to a gc quad. At this point, I am preferring the Skytrak as you can have it much closer to you and it seems more accurate (check this vid for comparison: ). Would love to hear some more thoughts on this I’d prefer to go with a camera-based system as I will eventually use the launch monitor indoors, however the SkyTrak wouldn’t be my first choice as: It doesn’t measure Angle of Attack which is a must-have for me. Reviewers have indicated that higher swing speed players won’t get accurate readings. I’m not sure if this is still a problem, but I’d be heartbroken if this were still true. For reference, I swing 6 iron at 92 MPH and Driver is around 113 MPH. Given this, the only optical systems that appear to be viable are GCQuad or GC2. I can’t justify the investment in either of those at this time though I’d love to have the path and face-to-path measurements as well. Quote WITB: Epic Max Dr, SIM Ti 3w, TSi3 20 hybrid, Mavrik Pro (2 weak), MD5 53 & 58, Tuttle Flow putter Mevo+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkilledByDesign Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, wegolfs said: I’d prefer to go with a camera-based system as I will eventually use the launch monitor indoors, however the SkyTrak wouldn’t be my first choice as: It doesn’t measure Angle of Attack which is a must-have for me. Reviewers have indicated that higher swing speed players won’t get accurate readings. I’m not sure if this is still a problem, but I’d be heartbroken if this were still true. For reference, I swing 6 iron at 92 MPH and Driver is around 113 MPH. Given this, the only optical systems that appear to be viable are GCQuad or GC2. I can’t justify the investment in either of those at this time though I’d love to have the path and face-to-path measurements as well. From what I’ve read about the higher swing speeds, it looks like it starts to become an issue at around ball speeds of 160ish. I would guess this is due to the frame rates of the cameras they are using as they are only 300fps as far as I can tell. I have heard of some manufacturers starting to use doplar as well as cameras like the ES Tour Plus. That comes in at around $2,700 but I haven’t done much research into it. Looks like this one won’t be very good outside though either Edited May 5, 2021 by SkilledByDesign Quote Obsessed with the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegolfs Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Adding some notes related to my experience with Mevo+ this week: Par2Pro’s customer service is fantastic though their website needs improvement. Mevo+ unboxing is marred by the cheap plastic wrap on the unit. My wife thought it was a cheap toy. Initial setup should be done at home using FS Golf app. I tried FS Skills first and had issues with the firmware update (resolved by launching FS Golf from another device). Flightscope support is frustrating. They didn’t reply to chat requests on their website and email responses only came after I inquired on Instagram. Mevo+ is very close to Trackman at the range provided that the radar settings are correct. It must be 8 feet from the ball and the hitting surface height has to be exact. Also, FS Golf requires the tilt angle to be 18 degrees - it will not display an error if it’s not, but the numbers will be off. An external battery pack is necessary for lengthy practice sessions or a day on the course. I’m heading out to the range to try FS Skills today and will try E6 on Monday. Briton and cnosil 2 Quote WITB: Epic Max Dr, SIM Ti 3w, TSi3 20 hybrid, Mavrik Pro (2 weak), MD5 53 & 58, Tuttle Flow putter Mevo+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegolfs Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 Mevo+ didn’t work so well at the other range today. Notes below: AoA values don’t seem to register correctly unless the Tee/hitting surface height is exact. The mats were between 1.33 and 1.5 inches off the ground so I had to choose either 1 or 2 inches in settings as there’s no option to specify fractional values. As a result the AoA figures were off with values typically ranging from -10 to -13 vs the normal -7 to -8. FS Skills didn’t seem to like the tee height and/or tilt as some shots were missed. Those that did register weren’t very good but it was definitely my fault. I’ll try FS Skills and E6 at my regular range next week and if weather permits I’ll try a net. I do find it a bit odd trying to hit virtual targets but I’m sure I’ll get used to it over time. At this point in time I’d say that Mevo+ is useful for practice provided that your typically hitting area(s) fall in line with the required setup. This means: 8 feet from Mevo+ to ball Either a completely flat surface between the Mevo+ and ball OR an elevated hitting mat that is either 1, 2, or 3 inches above the unit Feel free to post any questions and I’ll do my best to answer. Note that I don’t have a net at home so I’ll be testing outdoors at the range. Briton 1 Quote WITB: Epic Max Dr, SIM Ti 3w, TSi3 20 hybrid, Mavrik Pro (2 weak), MD5 53 & 58, Tuttle Flow putter Mevo+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegolfs Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Some additional observations from my driver AoA training session with Mevo+ and FS Golf at the range today: It’s quite good at picking up shots! The only one that didn’t register was the one I almost topped so it saved me the time deleting the outlier. AoA readings appear for the majority of shots. Only 3 of 120 didn’t have an AoA value. Spin rate is occasionally off. There were 7 shots with “estimated” spin rates in the set. It appears to track the ball flight up to around 250 yards (or more). There were several occasions where the ball hit the fence and FS Golf showed the carry distance as the distance to the fence (I verified this with my rangefinder). Regarding the training session, I haven’t been this excited to practice in ages. Now that I can see the data and ball flight I can focus on improving launch conditions. By the end of my session the average AoA was +4 degrees. The highest I was able to achieve was +6.1 degrees which is a huge change from my previous average of -3 degrees. I felt like I had to hold back the speed to get comfortable and I could see that I was down 6 mph. Going forward I’ll start to work on adding speed while retaining the upward AoA. cnosil 1 Quote WITB: Epic Max Dr, SIM Ti 3w, TSi3 20 hybrid, Mavrik Pro (2 weak), MD5 53 & 58, Tuttle Flow putter Mevo+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Does anyone use the Mevo+ as a simulator and play golf courses? That to me always sounds fun but then I know simulator golf is very different to real golf. Quote STZ 230 9.5* "Std" setting STZ 230 Hybrid 18* "lower" setting Pro Fli-Hi 21.5* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* Glide 4.0 (S) 58* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 Maxfli Tour X Official Review -- https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63068-testers-announced-maxfli-tour-x-golf-balls-with-max-align-technology/?do=findComment&comment=1021832 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegolfs Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 14 hours ago, vandyland said: Does anyone use the Mevo+ as a simulator and play golf courses? That to me always sounds fun but then I know simulator golf is very different to real golf. I’ll try E6 later this week but I won’t be able to putt and I’ll be hitting at a range. One of the nearby courses has a net but I’m not sure whether the distances from Mevo+ to ball and ball to net will work out. If they do, I’ll post results (weather permitting). Quote WITB: Epic Max Dr, SIM Ti 3w, TSi3 20 hybrid, Mavrik Pro (2 weak), MD5 53 & 58, Tuttle Flow putter Mevo+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffleHouseTour Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Curious if anyone has had any difficulty connecting the Mevo+ FS Golf app on their iPhone with their Apple Watch. I used my Apple Watch repeatedly last summer. But for some reason it won’t connect and/or report shots this summer. The iPhone captures and reports every shot but nothing on the Watch. I’m wondering if the upgrade to the pro package may have broken that, or if I just have a unique problem between my iPhone and watch. Just curious if anyone else has had any experience or issues. Quote Walking ahead of my BagBoy QuadXL w Alphard eWheels Driver: Callaway Mavrik SubZero 9* Neutral w stock Evenflow Riptide R flex shaft 3W Titelist TS2 15* Draw w Tensei Blue R flex 3H, 4H Cobra One Length F9 Speedback hybrids (1”short) w Fujikura Atmos R flex shaft 5I-GW Cobra Forged TEC Black One Length (1”short, 2* flat) KBS 90 R flex shafts 56, 60 Cobra King MIM One Length Black (1” short) KBS HiRev2.0 125 S flex shafts ER7 or Scotty Futura X - 35” OnCore Elixr (lemon or lime) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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