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My expectation is that I come away with clubs that fit my swing and don't fight with my swing.  For example, I don't buy clubs that often and was fit for the first time about 11-12 years ago.  I found I needed my irons to be bent two degrees flat.  All of a sudden, I found that I was hitting irons solidly on swings where I had previously topped a ball or hit it thin.

Also, I found that I really liked my hybrids (at the time Ping 15s).  But, then about 3-4 years ago, I started slowing down at work, playing more, taking lessons, etc., and as my swing improved, I found that the Ping Hybrids really had too much of a draw bias for my new swing.  Got Titleist hybrids about two years ago and had them fitted to me and now it is easier for me to hit the ball straight.

But, a few years ago I went to Club Champion to get fit for a putter and got one that they recommended and seemed ok based on the very short putts I was doing there.  I got the putter on the course and played with it for about a year and always hated it.  I went back to my old putter, which was an older Odyssey blade putter that was too long for me but was otherwise comfortable.  I am left handed and thus have difficulties finding putters to try.  Did some research and found the ping iphone app and found that I had a strong arch stroke (the putter Club Champion had fit me to was face balanced).  Eventually bought a new toe hang blade putter and am much happier with it and as I take putting lessons it seems to work better and better.

So, again, what I am looking for in a fitting is a golf club that I feel comfortable with, that helps and does not fight my swing and that continues to work as I take lessons and improve my swing.

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  • :taylormade-small: Sim 2 Driver Fujikura Ventus Blue 6R shaft
  • :taylormade-small:Sim 2 5 wood Fujikura Ventus Blue 5R shaft
  •  th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg  0311 Gen 5 Seven Wood Project X Cypher 50 5.5 shaft set to flat with weights set to fade.
  • :titelist-small: H818 Hybrid 25 degrees Tensei ck Series 60 HY regular flex shafts at C4 setting (flat for lefties)
  • :titelist-small: 718 AP1 irons 6-gap Tensei ck Series AMC IR regular flex bent two degrees flat
  • :vokey-small: SM 7 Wedge 58 degrees M grind with 8 bounce Steel shafts wedge flex bent 2 degrees flat
  • :ping-small: Glide 3 52.12 and 56.14 with  Alta CB Red Regular Flex shaft bent 2 degrees flat
  • Go back and forth between :cameron-small: Select Newport 2 putter 34 inch length and :ping-small: Sigma G Tyne putter 33 inch length
  • :titelist-small:  Pro V1 although I use Maxfli Tours during the offseason and other days when I am not playing well and don't want to lose Pro V1s.  
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Like most the newbies, expecting nothing less than a miracle.   After the fitting with the "new or adjusted" golf clubs, we should play golf like the pros we see on televised tournaments.

 

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Club Champion touts a Golf Digest study in which eight of the nine participants saw their games improve by an average of 1.7 strokes per play, their drivers gain 21 yards, and their irons gain 13 yards. Those improvements don’t mean you’re going to go pro anytime soon, but can be big deal, depending on how seriously you take your game.

It’s for each of us to decide if 1.7 strokes per round (average) is worth $350 plus $ hundreds in custom shafts, some got more than 1.7 strokes, some got less... 

I’m gaming a driver custom fit and built for me by Club Champion in March. I’ve only played 4 rounds with it so far (course was closed until a few weeks ago). I didn’t expect to gain distance and I didn’t. My ball speed and smash factor was almost the same with every driver head and shaft I tried including the stock Rogue I walked in with. There was a difference in dispersion on the launch monitor, but some of that is chance and some the shaft - hard to know how much of each. There’s no obvious difference in FW dispersion in my first 4 rounds but I need to give it 20-25 rounds before drawing ANY conclusions on FW% or scoring. 

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  • Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize
  • Mizuno JPX900 Forged 4-GW, S18 56.10, S18 60.06 w MCC+4 Midsize
  • Evnroll ER5B Fit@TrueSpec w P2 Touch Tour
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I changed the title of the topic as more people are providing their expectations for the fitting.   This post is about once you get those new perfectly fit clubs (doesn't matter if you bought them from the fitter or sourced them yourself),  what improvements are you expecting and even more,  how are you measuring those improvements?  I see lots or people saying that their fitting didn't work so tell us your evaluation criteria that lead you to the conclusion that the fitting didn't work.

 

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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15*  w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype        
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 5-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :titleist-small: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite
Putter:   :seemore-small: mFGP2

Backups:  :taylormade-small:TM-180, :odyssey-small: Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787, logo-horizontal-black.svg Directed Force 2.1 

Member:  MGS Hitsquad since 2017697979773_DSCN2368(Custom).JPG.a1a25f5e430d9eebae93c5d652cbd4b9.JPG

 

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9 minutes ago, cnosil said:

I changed the title of the topic as more people are providing their expectations for the fitting.   This post is about once you get those new perfectly fit clubs (doesn't matter if you bought them from the fitter or sourced them yourself),  what improvements are you expecting and even more,  how are you measuring those improvements?  I see lots or people saying that their fitting didn't work so tell us your evaluation criteria that lead you to the conclusion that the fitting didn't work.

 

This is what I’m curious to read about especially for anyone talking dispersion.

 

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Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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Except for driver and fairway woods, my fittings haven't changed in the last six years.  When I get new clubs which means I have built them myself, I expect them to have uniform yardage gaps, predictable flight trajectory, predictable curvature, similar feels (swing), and gravy if they go longer & or straighter.  I understand that they will feel different and if they fly as good or better I don't care what they feel or look like.  How I test:  I use a GCQuad to confirm dispersion, launch, distance gaps, & off distance performance.  I also confirm lie angles with a marker.  Once done I confirm their performance on the course and make any adjustments as needed.  I also check my loft/lies 2-3 times per year.  I have zero expectation that the clubs will make me play better. If I can control them and they are predictable, then the scoring is all on me.  

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Background: Before March 2020, My driver that I  used for 12 years was a Taylormade Burner, 50 g, Regular Flex. I basically just bought this at a store. My problem with this driver was that I have a higher swing speed (108-112) that resulted in me guessing when that driver head was going to make impact with the ball. I know that mainly had to do with the shaft, but still.

I decided to finally get fitted for a driver. Using a track man and many driver heads and shafts, I ended up with a Ping G410 Plus, 75 g, Extra stiff flex driver. This club fit my golf swing, slight fade, a lot better than my old driver. I have played about 9-10 rounds so far. I can already tell a difference in the feel of the golf club coming through at impact. I know what my miss will be if I don’t come through like I intend to. 
 

With my old driver, I was all over the place, missing left and right. Now, I know that I can be more confident with my shot shape by taking the angle I want and if I miss, I know it’s typically fading a little more than I would like. I use the 18 birdies app for every round and one of the statistics is Fairways hit. I have already seen this stat increase from my last 10 rounds total. Getting fit for this driver has allowed me to focus on the swing path I want and not hope the club comes around in time to send the golf ball in the direction I want. Obviously I’m still working and tinkering with this new driver has I have gone from a 50g to 75g shaft, but I have definitely noticed the improvement in my dispersion of shots. I would like to think I’m hitting it further too, but I’ve also been hitting the weigh room, so it could be that.

 

 

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 :ping-small:  G410 Plus, w/ X stiff 75 g Project X Evenflow Black shaft driver / :cobra-small: Radspeed w/ Smoke RDX Blue 70S shaft

 :cobra-small: Big Tour 3 wood/ 5 wood w/ Fujikura X F3 60S shaft

 :cobra-small: 4 Hybrid w/ Project X Catalyst 80S shaft

:cobra-small: Copper MIM Tour Irons w/ KBS $ Taper Balck 120S shaft

:cobra-small: Snakebite 50, 54, and 58 wedges w/ KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 125S shaft

:scotty-small: Newport 2.5 putter

:Snell:MTB X golf balls

RH, Alabama

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I got fit for my 919 Forged irons in February, after gaming MP-H4s for 6 years.  I got fit for the H4s, but after maybe 2 years total playing golf.  They had reg flex Dynalite Gold shafts in them, and even as long as 3 years ago I was starting to see my shot balloon.  I'd gotten better and my clubs were no longer a fit.  My 919's have Project X 6.0s, and I'm hitting a much more penetrating ball flight with no ballooning.

Point is...well, a couple points.  One, in my opinion, the greatest "goodness" of a fitting is found in getting you into the proper shaft far more than the clubhead.  (Again, just my opinion.)  Two, as to the OPs question about what I expect on the course after a fitting, I'd say to know that I'm the best possible conditions to hit good shots.  In other words, my clubs are best suited to allow me to deliver a strike, rather than a hindrance.  In my case, it's worked.  I use an app to track my stats, and my GIR is up since I started gaming the new sticks. 

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Driver:  :honma:TR20 460, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff

FW:  :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 65g Stiff

Hybrids:  :callaway-small: Apex Pro 3 & 4H, Mitsubishi MMT 80g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff

Wedges: :vokey-small:SM8 54 S Grind bent to 55, 60 M Grind bent to 59, Aerotech Steelfiber i110 Stiff

Putter: :odyssey-small: White Hot OG Double Wide, Stroke Lab shaft

Ball: :titelist-small: Pro V1X

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I have yet to purchase a fully fit bag of clubs, but when I eventually do my expectations are that I have a more predictable and consistent ball flight, that I improve efficiency via improved strike location (for similar swings), and that I'm able to go at the ball a bit more. With my current setup, I don't feel like a can really go at the ball without losing control of the club face. I can swing fast, but I really have to manage tempo - especially with the driver, fairway, and hybrid.

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Driver: Mizuno ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S
Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S
Hybrid: Mizuno CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Bridgestone J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 54* & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach SOFT Premier 4 34"
Ball: Maxfli Tour
Bag: 2017 Titleist Players 5 Stand Bag

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