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Definitely in the heavy camp. The heavier the shaft, the more comfortable I feel. Any shaft under 70 grams I have a bad tendency to miss left.

Driver:     image.png.4b2e2de291c6e3e8a5ad94e9f2919ba6.png Mavrik SZ - GD XC-7X

3 Wood:   image.png.fa4b3f2cf297aab0430b504772faa7d2.png Taylormade SIM - GD AD-DI 7X

Hybrids:  image.png.4b2e2de291c6e3e8a5ad94e9f2919ba6.png Apex 20* - GD AD-DI 95X

Irons:      image.png.4b2e2de291c6e3e8a5ad94e9f2919ba6.png  Apex Pro '19 - DG X100 4-PW

Wedges: image.png.4554f4063a75fadd669e2b2fd26101d8.png SM7

Putter:     Spider X Chalk

Ball:         ProV1

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, cnosil said:


What kind are you using, never had any just fall off?

Not sure of the brand. Just picked it up from my local golf store.   It kept falling off. I also did not like the sound of the driver with it on

Driver: Taylormade SIM Max d 9 with graphite design tour ad xc 6s

Fairway Wood:Taylormade Sim 15 with Graphite design Tour ad iz 6s
Hybrid:  Pxg gen2 19 with hand crafted hzrdus black 85 6.0 and Adams super ls xtd 22 with Diamana s+  stiff

Irons: 5-pw Miura Mc501 with modus 120s pured

Wedges:  Callaway md2 gold 50 Dg tour issue s400 black onyx, Taylormade MG 54 with DG tour issue s400 black onyx, and Taylormade hi toe 59 with modus 120r

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Not sure of the brand. Just picked it up from my local golf store.   It kept falling off. I also did not like the sound of the driver with it on

Interesting, all the tape I have used was super sticky and i to work to get it to come off. It generally tears into multiple pieces.
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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype        
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 5-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :titleist-small: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite
Putter:  logo-horizontal-black.svg Directed Force 2.1

Backups:  :taylormade-small:TM-180, :odyssey-small: Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787, :seemore-small: mFGP2,

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Heavy as that’s what I’m always fitted to. 

Driver: Honma TR 460 8.5*, Aldila RIP Alpha 80 S, 45 1/4"; Ping G425 LST, Fujikura Speeder TR 661 S, 45 1/2"

hybrids: Cobra King Tec 17* and 21*, both with Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105 X

Irons:  Srixon ZX5 4-6, ZX7 7-PW, UST Mamiya Recoil F4, +1”

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50D/54V/58D:Nippon:Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Putter:  :edel-golf-1: EAS 1.0

All but putter have Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Calibrate midsize built to oversize +1

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On 6/7/2020 at 7:45 PM, NRJyzr said:

I've always liked heavier shafts.   Driver, fairway woods, irons, and now even hybrids.  The first driver I could use effectively had a shaft that I later found to be over 100g.  I have an NV105 lying around to put in something, if I get around to figuring out which driver.  I put together an NV105 iron shaft, and DG, for my hybrids.

Helps keep the tempo in check.

I've never done well with longer driver lengths, but I wonder if I should try a heavier stick at 44.5" or even 45".  I'd briefly tried something like that (90g+ shaft at 44.75") in Ye Olde Days with interesting results, but never quite followed through.

Something to think about.

 

Have two updates....

I tried a driver at 44.5" with a 100g shaft a week or more ago.  It was not good, my tee game direction was a bit ugly.  Was playing a course that wasn't very penal so I got away with it more than I should have, in scoring terms.

The second update is related to shaft weight.  I decided it was time to quit screwing around and went back to the Fast 12LS that I was hitting pretty well for a few months last year.  And I put the Xcaliber Tour shaft in it, which checks in under 70g.  Very much a departure for me.  44" was the length, so I didnt step outside too far.  😉

And hit it pretty well.  Found fairways, kept the ball in play, with decent distance.  Even got compliments from playing partners, one guy telling me he'd better see that club in my bag next round (this Friday).  My bag rotating nature hasn't gone unnoticed.  LOL 

Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 11*, Aldila NV75 X, 43.5" -or- SpeedZone, HZRDUS Black 75 6.5, 43.5"
3w:  Cobra King LTD, RIP Beta 90, 42" -or- Stage 2 Tour, NV105 X, 42.5"
2h or 3h:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, Aldila NV105 S -or- RIP Alpha 105 S
Irons:  3-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4 (reshaft in progress, slowly); 1i & 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S; 2-PW Golden Ram TW282, RIP Tour 115 R
GW: Dynacraft Dual Milled CNC 52*, Steelfiber 125 S; Scratch 8620 DS 53*, Steelfiber 125 S
SW:  Ram TG-898 56*, DGX ss2x; Ram Tom Watson 55*, DGX ss2x; Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS; PM Grind 19 58*, stock shaft
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34"; Ping Scottsdale TR Craz-E, 35"; Cleveland Huntington Beach 1, 35"
Ball:  Wilson Staff Duo Professional, Bridgestone Tour B-RXS, Callaway Chrome Soft

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And another update....

The 44" and <70grams didn't last long.  Hit it well for one round, got progressively worse.  I guess I'm not yet at the point in my game where I can go that light with my driver.

I'd been trying my King LTD with a Rogue Black 3w shaft, it worked moderately well, but with what appeared to be too much spin, even at 9* loft.  Headwinds were killing me.  Wasn't sure I could get away with it but figured it was worth a shot, pulled out the Aldila NV ProtoPype 80 that I'd assembled for it some time previously.

Quite a difference.  Ramped up loft to 10.5*, spin came down where I could get through headwinds with a little flighting effort,  and overall distance bumped up.  Felt like I was back to what I'd been seeing a few years ago in terms of distance, and the 80g shaft gave me better feel in the swing, with better lateral dispersion compared to what I'd been seeing.  Relative to my tee game ability, of course, LOL.

Don't have it with me for my holiday weekend golf, but I put the ProtoPype 80 I have in an R11s adapter in my SuperDeep.  I've been dying to give that some run, since seeing test results over at WRX on the SuperDeep's ball speed; it can still hang with anything in ball speed terms.  I missed out on the SuperDeep in its day, kind of like the visually smaller footprint thanks to that face depth.

I'd bet @BIG STU would love the lead tape on this King LTD 😊

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Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 11*, Aldila NV75 X, 43.5" -or- SpeedZone, HZRDUS Black 75 6.5, 43.5"
3w:  Cobra King LTD, RIP Beta 90, 42" -or- Stage 2 Tour, NV105 X, 42.5"
2h or 3h:  TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, Aldila NV105 S -or- RIP Alpha 105 S
Irons:  3-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4 (reshaft in progress, slowly); 1i & 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S; 2-PW Golden Ram TW282, RIP Tour 115 R
GW: Dynacraft Dual Milled CNC 52*, Steelfiber 125 S; Scratch 8620 DS 53*, Steelfiber 125 S
SW:  Ram TG-898 56*, DGX ss2x; Ram Tom Watson 55*, DGX ss2x; Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS; PM Grind 19 58*, stock shaft
Putter:  Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34"; Ping Scottsdale TR Craz-E, 35"; Cleveland Huntington Beach 1, 35"
Ball:  Wilson Staff Duo Professional, Bridgestone Tour B-RXS, Callaway Chrome Soft

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On 6/10/2020 at 7:52 AM, cnosil said:


Interesting, all the tape I have used was super sticky and i to work to get it to come off. It generally tears into multiple pieces.

If is too hard to et of hit it slightly with the heat gun and I say slightly. To remove tape residue use WD-40 with a sorta rough dish towel

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Driver ---- Honma G1_X Stock tuned Honma R shaft---- 3 wood TM V-Steel Aldila 65G R Flex 15*--- 7 Wood TM V-Steel UST Pro Force 65 R flex 21*---- 9 wood TM V-Steel stock MAS Stiff shaft 24*---  Irons 4 thru 9 Mac Muirfield TT black label --- PW  Vokey SM-4 51* stock shaft--- SW Vokey SM 5 L grind 58* stock shaft--- Putter -- Rusty Scotty Santa Fe fluted Bulls Eye shaft---. Bag Old School Jones Original non stand

 

 

 

 

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On 6/9/2020 at 4:43 AM, Hotdocta said:

Every time I put lead tape on it just ends up falling off. 

you must clean the area you are going to put it with something, mineral spirits etc.  then i warm the lead tape with a fan heater to warm the glue, once its on and set i use knife handle of something the rub along it to really press it on hard. 

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5 hours ago, krusher74 said:

you must clean the area you are going to put it with something, mineral spirits etc.  then i warm the lead tape with a fan heater to warm the glue, once its on and set i use knife handle of something the rub along it to really press it on hard. 

Cool thanks.  I will try it next time

Driver: Taylormade SIM Max d 9 with graphite design tour ad xc 6s

Fairway Wood:Taylormade Sim 15 with Graphite design Tour ad iz 6s
Hybrid:  Pxg gen2 19 with hand crafted hzrdus black 85 6.0 and Adams super ls xtd 22 with Diamana s+  stiff

Irons: 5-pw Miura Mc501 with modus 120s pured

Wedges:  Callaway md2 gold 50 Dg tour issue s400 black onyx, Taylormade MG 54 with DG tour issue s400 black onyx, and Taylormade hi toe 59 with modus 120r

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As you age you will find lighter shafts are of benefit. Once your over 65, you'll be loving them. Am 74 and that's all I use.

Yup, I’m 73 and driver is 55 gr & irons 60 gr. Occasionally the driver “feels” light but that maybe Tempo issue.


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Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr R2

5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous Vista Pro R2

Irons; Ping G710 6-GW, Recoil 460 R2

Wedges; Titleist S9 54*

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I was always on the heavier side till I did a 3 weight shaft study. 85, 95 and 105g shafts. I had 8 better players including me. Every one of them swore they couldn't hit the 85 at all. Yet every one of them. Hit it farther. Hit it straighter. Hit it more consistently.
They still said they preferred their heavier weighted shafts but couldn't explain the better performance away.
Many golfers are convinced they must play heavier shafts.
Right now the Xcaliber 75g Rapid Tapers are being produced and I'm doing a lot of player testing. I simply hand them the club and won't tell them what it weighs. They marvel at the feel, launch and the near perfect spin numbers without ballooning. They will tell me it does feel lite, they can feel the club head, it is responsive and controlled. When they hear how much it weighs they make a funny face and say its too light. Then they hit another 10 shots down range straight as an arrow.
The less weight obviously doesn't do well for better player when you get to wedges. But slower swings do exceptionally well.
Players are slowly realizing that shafts built today don't have to be 130g to perform.

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I tend to do better with heavier shafts.  Its easier for me to control tempo.  I have a swing speed at about 110MPH average with my driver.  I can't control the club head as easy with lighter shafts.  Believe it or not I feel comfortable swinging harder with the heavier shaft because subconsciously I know I can control my club head better.

 

I guess if I were a pro I'd be focusing on how to dial all that in with a lighter shaft.  But there is just something to be said about being a worm burner occasionally.  It gives me the chance to laugh and enjoy golf instead of focusing on being perfect. 

 

The biggest thing I've learned about shafts is that I know very little about them, and I go into a fitting as a blank slate and let the fitter do his/her magic. 

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Mavrik Max 9 degree loft w/ROUGE white X-Stiff 70g

Maverick Max 3W, 5W w/ROUGE white X-Stiff 70g

Mavrik Max 3H, KBS tour prototype 70/80 X-Stiff 80g

Speedblade 4-PW, AW, SW KBS Siff 85g

Ghost Sypder putter

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An update to my earlier post, still frickin love the Smoke Green 60 (actual full length weight of the 6.5 TX is 65 gr).  I trimmed a 1/2" off for a total of 44 3/4" driver now with swing weight at D3.  I'm hitting some bombs that Phil would salute to and much, much better dispersion.  I have the 80 gr version in my 3 wood, but I like the extra heft there.  I think I mentioned it in my first post on this thread, but this is the only sub 70 gr driver shaft I've ever gotten along with.

  • TaylorMade SIM2 9.7* - Graphite Design Tour AD-HD 7 TX
  • TaylorMade M6 15.9* - PX HZRDUS Green 80 6.5
  • Titleist 816 H2 20* - MCA Diamana S+ 90 X 
  • Srixon Z565 3i - PX 6.5
  • Srixon Z745 4-P - PX LZ 7.0
  • Vokey SM8 52F / 58K - DG TI S400
  • Scotty Cameron X7 Phantom 34”
  • Titleist -Pro V1X
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I tend to do better with heavier shafts.  Its easier for me to control tempo.  I have a swing speed at about 110MPH average with my driver.  I can't control the club head as easy with lighter shafts.  Believe it or not I feel comfortable swinging harder with the heavier shaft because subconsciously I know I can control my club head better.
 
I guess if I were a pro I'd be focusing on how to dial all that in with a lighter shaft.  But there is just something to be said about being a worm burner occasionally.  It gives me the chance to laugh and enjoy golf instead of focusing on being perfect. 
 
The biggest thing I've learned about shafts is that I know very little about them, and I go into a fitting as a blank slate and let the fitter do his/her magic. 
Like anything, once you get some time with lighter shafts you quickly get used to how they feel. Now when i swing a 125 or a 130g shaft it feels like a cinder block.

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125 to 130g is a cinder block!  Lol.

Im at

70g 1W, 3W, 5W

80g 3h

85g on irons (I've hit a few with 105g and like those too, but haven't been fitted for my irons)

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Mavrik Max 9 degree loft w/ROUGE white X-Stiff 70g

Maverick Max 3W, 5W w/ROUGE white X-Stiff 70g

Mavrik Max 3H, KBS tour prototype 70/80 X-Stiff 80g

Speedblade 4-PW, AW, SW KBS Siff 85g

Ghost Sypder putter

bourbon to be drank neat

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