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Not an MGS tester so I really don’t want to hijack the thread, but I just bought the Super Speed system last weekend, based largely on what I’m reading in this thread and the previous test thread.

Did my first Level 1 workout last night; my plan is to do it every MWF. That said, I am a little concerned about some of the feedback I’ve seen about spraying it once you actually tee it up, so I’m planning to do an Orange Whip session Tuesday and Thursday to try and preserve some tempo.

Is that a bad idea? Will Orange Whip practices in between neuter the brain reprogramming that Super Speed is trying to do? I certainly don’t go all out with the Orange Whip, I just would like to still keep it in bounds when I play while working through the Super Speed protocols. But, I also don’t want to render the protocols worthless.

Thoughts? (Again, hope this is okay to post here, don’t want to hijack anything.)

 

 

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53 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Not an MGS tester so I really don’t want to hijack the thread, but I just bought the Super Speed system last weekend, based largely on what I’m reading in this thread and the previous test thread.

Did my first Level 1 workout last night; my plan is to do it every MWF. That said, I am a little concerned about some of the feedback I’ve seen about spraying it once you actually tee it up, so I’m planning to do an Orange Whip session Tuesday and Thursday to try and preserve some tempo.

Is that a bad idea? Will Orange Whip practices in between neuter the brain reprogramming that Super Speed is trying to do? I certainly don’t go all out with the Orange Whip, I just would like to still keep it in bounds when I play while working through the Super Speed protocols. But, I also don’t want to render the protocols worthless.

Thoughts? (Again, hope this is okay to post here, don’t want to hijack anything.)

I think you will see a little more dispersion off the tee when you first start out.  I did in the earlier test, but it doesn't last very long.  Don't give up if you see it!!  At some point you will be more comfortable with the swings and have better control.  It's like swinging with the non-dominant hand.  It feels really awkward at first, and your speed is much slower.  But keep doing it and that swing becomes less awkward.  I actually got to the point where my fastest speeds were with my non-dominant hand!!

The Orange Whip sessions should be fine.  I used my Skilz Gold Flex before every round I played, and even played in the afternoon after a morning protocol.  The only issue raised by SuperSpeed Golf was to NOT play golf prior to performing the protocol, if possible.

During the last testing we had several members that were not part of the testing jump in and shared their experiences.  I don't think it's hijacking.  Everyone welcomes participation when the goal is to provide input to members of the forum about products.  

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I think you will see a little more dispersion off the tee when you first start out.  I did in the earlier test, but it doesn't last very long.  Don't give up if you see it!!  At some point you will be more comfortable with the swings and have better control.  It's like swinging with the non-dominant hand.  It feels really awkward at first, and your speed is much slower.  But keep doing it and that swing becomes less awkward.  I actually got to the point where my fastest speeds were with my non-dominant hand!!
The Orange Whip sessions should be fine.  I used my Skilz Gold Flex before every round I played, and even played in the afternoon after a morning protocol.  The only issue raised by SuperSpeed Golf was to NOT play golf prior to performing the protocol, if possible.
During the last testing we had several members that were not part of the testing jump in and shared their experiences.  I don't think it's hijacking.  Everyone welcomes participation when the goal is to provide input to members of the forum about products.  
Best of luck with your training!!  Love the forum name!!

Great feedback, thank you!


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@getoffmylawn I was also in the first test group - one of the goals of these testing threads is entire forum participation. Occasionally OEMs weight in as well so questions or observations are good.

One of the benefits that I found from the SuperSpeed program was improved ball striking consistency -

That can come from lessons too - those sometimes cause a step back to take a step forward. I’m sure the Orange whip is fine but if your going to truly see a benefit from SuperSpeed you are going to need some turbulence as your swing takes off and you get faster.

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Does everyone do the protocol on grass or concrete? I dont really have a very flat area in my grass so I often do it on concrete but the other day did the protocol in the grass and my numbers were down across the board by about 5mph. Wondering if I should start doing it in the grass more in order for a more realistic training or does swinging harder on concrete better prepare the neural pathways.

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10 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Not an MGS tester so I really don’t want to hijack the thread, but I just bought the Super Speed system last weekend, based largely on what I’m reading in this thread and the previous test thread.

In my opinion, you are welcome to throw your observations/results in this thread - we like additional participation and prior participants have added invaluable content to the thread, so why not another "unofficial" contributor?

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7 minutes ago, tchat07 said:

Does everyone do the protocol on grass or concrete? I dont really have a very flat area in my grass so I often do it on concrete but the other day did the protocol in the grass and my numbers were down across the board by about 5mph. Wondering if I should start doing it in the grass more in order for a more realistic training or does swinging harder on concrete better prepare the neural pathways.

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I did my first session on grass, but it was not an absolutely flat lie (the only flat area of my yard is very swampy right now) so every subsequent session has been on my deck with a turf-like doormat to protect my driver and the superspeed sticks from inadvertent contact. I did not see any obvious differences between the two.

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@getoffmylawn I was also in the first test group - one of the goals of these testing threads is entire forum participation. Occasionally OEMs weight in as well so questions or observations are good.

 

One of the benefits that I found from the SuperSpeed program was improved ball striking consistency -

 

That can come from lessons too - those sometimes cause a step back to take a step forward. I’m sure the Orange whip is fine but if your going to truly see a benefit from SuperSpeed you are going to need some turbulence as your swing takes off and you get faster.

 

Good luck

 

 

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Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

Still taking GolfTec lessons (infrequently) as well, I'm just not terribly patient with myself and it bugs me to shoot bad scores, even if I'm creating my own "turbulence" that will turn out to be for the good in the end.  If improved consistency is to be found in the program along with clubhead speed then I am REALLY psyched.  The Me and My Golf guys in their YouTube review of SuperSpeed also spoke to that...that the training seems to improve overall sequencing.

 

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53 minutes ago, tchat07 said:

Does everyone do the protocol on grass or concrete? I dont really have a very flat area in my grass so I often do it on concrete but the other day did the protocol in the grass and my numbers were down across the board by about 5mph. Wondering if I should start doing it in the grass more in order for a more realistic training or does swinging harder on concrete better prepare the neural pathways.
 

I did most of it in my backyard wearing golf shoes, and tore up the grass in one spot.  I tried to move around as much as possible, but my yard only had a few flat spots.  When the weather was bad, I did the protocol on my patio wearing sneakers.  I did see a small drop in speed but nothing significant, probably because of loss of traction and not being able to rotate as well under control.  I think you get the same effects, just a different baseline.

If you do it on concrete, you should place something like a rubber mat in the area where you are swinging.  I found that you can hit the concrete (or grass) occasionally.  Not an issue on grass, but concrete...  🙄   ... or the radar unit...  😢

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1 hour ago, tchat07 said:

Does everyone do the protocol on grass or concrete? I dont really have a very flat area in my grass so I often do it on concrete but the other day did the protocol in the grass and my numbers were down across the board by about 5mph. Wondering if I should start doing it in the grass more in order for a more realistic training or does swinging harder on concrete better prepare the neural pathways.

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I'll do mine on the grass, unless its wet then I'll do it on the concrete.  I didn't notice much difference in my speeds.  I'm looking for some turf or something that I can use because I tear up a lot of grass doing the workouts.  Even in sneakers I'm just about down to dirt by the time I finish.

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20 minutes ago, B.Boston said:

I'll do mine on the grass, unless its wet then I'll do it on the concrete.  I didn't notice much difference in my speeds.  I'm looking for some turf or something that I can use because I tear up a lot of grass doing the workouts.  Even in sneakers I'm just about down to dirt by the time I finish.

I have several noticeably bare spots in my backyard from the last two year's worth of training, and I only use sneakers so I'm sure it'd be worse with spikes.

During the winter I do the protocols in the garage on concrete. I've made some pretty spark showers before bouncing the sticks off the concrete.

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2 hours ago, tchat07 said:

Does everyone do the protocol on grass or concrete? I dont really have a very flat area in my grass so I often do it on concrete but the other day did the protocol in the grass and my numbers were down across the board by about 5mph. Wondering if I should start doing it in the grass more in order for a more realistic training or does swinging harder on concrete better prepare the neural pathways.

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Generally I do mine on grass in my back yard with soft spikes - I have a spot that's worn down and its hard to grow grass there anyway.  I've used the driveway while keeping the radar and swing area on grass and that worked fine. 

I've also tried the gym at church - I lost speed on that surface.

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4 hours ago, tchat07 said:

Does everyone do the protocol on grass or concrete? I dont really have a very flat area in my grass so I often do it on concrete but the other day did the protocol in the grass and my numbers were down across the board by about 5mph. Wondering if I should start doing it in the grass more in order for a more realistic training or does swinging harder on concrete better prepare the neural pathways.

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It's basic physics at this point.  The softer ground will absorb more energy and reduce reaction of pushing off.  In staying consistent with the super speed system, I would argue to continue to practice on concrete to allow your body to relearn at this increased speeds.  This will mostly likely provide improved speed when you tee it up.  And if I'm totally wrong here someone please tell me!

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It's basic physics at this point.  The softer ground will absorb more energy and reduce reaction of pushing off.  In staying consistent with the super speed system, I would argue to continue to practice on concrete to allow your body to relearn at this increased speeds.  This will mostly likely provide improved speed when you tee it up.  And if I'm totally wrong here someone please tell me!

There’s got to be some trade-off with grip too. If you loose a bit of traction in sneakers on the driveway vs spikes on the grass that might eat up all if not more than the gain you get from firmer ground.


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There’s got to be some trade-off with grip too. If you loose a bit of traction in sneakers on the driveway vs spikes on the grass that might eat up all if not more than the gain you get from firmer ground.


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5 hours ago, tchat07 said:

Does everyone do the protocol on grass or concrete? I dont really have a very flat area in my grass so I often do it on concrete but the other day did the protocol in the grass and my numbers were down across the board by about 5mph. Wondering if I should start doing it in the grass more in order for a more realistic training or does swinging harder on concrete better prepare the neural pathways.

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And to answer,  I've been doing to protocol's on concrete the whole time and haven't noticed a drop in speed on the course vs in my garage.

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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I definitely like seeing the higher speeds so probably going to stick to my concrete swings. I do agree I have seen a few spark shows going that route. I put a turf mat to protect the sticks haha.

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The paint on our deck has sand in it - very good grip in tennis shoes, but what prompted me to use a door mat was after sparks flew off my driver. Nice little scuff on the bottom now. Yes, I'm an idiot.
I followed the 18 version pretty much for the entirety and will say that it seems to be a right of passage to hit the ground at least once or twice or the poor (pre-PRGR) "radars" that you put straight in front of your swing.

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Not sure if it was the heat and humidity or recovery from the Memorial Day weekend - but yesterday's swings were lower with all of the sticks - most in the 3-4 mph range. Will be interesting to see what tomorrow brings, hopefully the numbers will be back up. 

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Not sure if it was the heat and humidity or recovery from the Memorial Day weekend - but yesterday's swings were lower with all of the sticks - most in the 3-4 mph range. Will be interesting to see what tomorrow brings, hopefully the numbers will be back up. 


I have noticed variations as well based on time of day and how much fun work was that day or what I was doing prior to swings. With the nicer weather I have been running again so I am working on how I schedule the swings.

Overall I have seen consistent gains.


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16 hours ago, cnosil said:

I started doing the protocols during last years testing and stopped due to pain in my fingers but the 2020 thread inspired me to get started again.  The big question was where to start;  I was through 19 weeks so my thought was to start protocol 3 over again but I would judge based on numbers from my first session.  Having done most wanted driver testing,  I knew my swing speed on GC Quad was generally in the 106-108 range when making a normal shot.   Took a before number and swung at 108.   Started the protocol and my initial numbers were just under where I stopped last year so I think I am starting at a good place.   

Very quickly my fingers starting hurting like they were last year.  I thought that maybe I was holding the club to tight so I loosened my grip a little which helped with the pain but will be something I continue to monitor.    

Did a driver speed test after the session and recorded a top speed of 117.   

Thanks to all the people participating in the thread to help get me motivated to get started again!

I had the same problem with the fingers.  I've been double gloving for the training and really working on relaxing my hands. This has really helped me and relaxing the hands improved my swing speed and I had better ball striking on the course. 

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Now that you guys are getting deeper in the training, what are you finding on the course?

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5 hours ago, twyatt700 said:

I had the same problem with the fingers.  I've been double gloving for the training and really working on relaxing my hands. This has really helped me and relaxing the hands improved my swing speed and I had better ball striking on the course. 

Double rain gloves is the only way for me with the protocols, especially because of the lefty swings 

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