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1 hour ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to prove a point...I'm still doing the non-dominant swings too, largely because I have to believe SuperSpeed has some legitimate reasons to make them part of the protocols.  Just thought it was a worthwhile addition to the conversation.

I truly appreciate the fact that you posted it - we should have these types of counter discussions - I love the way people talk about science as if its absolute - science posses a theory and then asks questions to test the theory, those theories are often in flux as more data comes in.  Great stuff - thanks!

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On 2/11/2021 at 1:32 PM, Getoffmylawn said:
Are you doing all 3 of the Orange Whip protocols as part of your warm up?
I've had a really hard time getting loose for SS myself, largely because it's in the negatives temperature wise and I'm doing SS in an unheated garage.  I do the SS warm-up protocol faithfully but I'm thinking I'm going to add a little OW work too to try and really loosen up, at least the first torso-turning OW drill, and then maybe the one-arms.

I don't use a specific OW protocol - just swinging it about 50 times starting out slowly and then accelerating progressively. I found that just using the SS without it screwed up my driver swing - the OW helps me maintain it. 

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Picked up another set of Speed Sticks and I'm jumping back in. Now that we sold our condo and moved back in with my mom while we try to find a house, I have a backyard and can actually take swings without having to travel anywhere.

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17 minutes ago, yungkory said:

Picked up another set of Speed Sticks and I'm jumping back in. Now that we sold our condo and moved back in with my mom while we try to find a house, I have a backyard and can actually take swings without having to travel anywhere.

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I searched the thread for "PRGR" and couldn't find an answer so here goes...

I noticed in a few of the reviews, like @jlukes's for example, the PRGR was on a little tripod. Was this recommended to you by @SuperSpeed Golf? How high off the ground if so? Going to start (for the second time in 2 years) the protocols tomorrow. Thanks everyone!

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4 hours ago, yungkory said:

I searched the thread for "PRGR" and couldn't find an answer so here goes...

I noticed in a few of the reviews, like @jlukes's for example, the PRGR was on a little tripod. Was this recommended to you by @SuperSpeed Golf? How high off the ground if so? Going to start (for the second time in 2 years) the protocols tomorrow. Thanks everyone!

What most of us found that was if there was grass or anything close to in front of the PRGR it would give inconsistent readings. I simply put mine on the box it came in and that was sufficient enough, however it is good to have it raised to a level where anything on the ground won't intercept any readings. 
You may have looked or noticed that the setup of it can take some time and be a little tricky, where I have a bit more of a inside out swing I had to place it appropriately for that (I also had the speed radar so I could compare). It looked a bit of a odd spot, but I got good readings from it in that specific spot which were consistent.  
A little tripod would be great, I believe the one jlukes had was the adjustable legs? Either way a great solution to raise it up, but again a simple solution is just using the box.. or cutting the grass? haha

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6 hours ago, yungkory said:

I searched the thread for "PRGR" and couldn't find an answer so here goes...

I noticed in a few of the reviews, like @jlukes's for example, the PRGR was on a little tripod. Was this recommended to you by @SuperSpeed Golf? How high off the ground if so? Going to start (for the second time in 2 years) the protocols tomorrow. Thanks everyone!

I did all my protocols on a range mat I have, so I made sure the monitor was raised up so it was above the range mat level

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6 hours ago, Apolloshowl said:

What most of us found that was if there was grass or anything close to in front of the PRGR it would give inconsistent readings. I simply put mine on the box it came in and that was sufficient enough, however it is good to have it raised to a level where anything on the ground won't intercept any readings. 
You may have looked or noticed that the setup of it can take some time and be a little tricky, where I have a bit more of a inside out swing I had to place it appropriately for that (I also had the speed radar so I could compare). It looked a bit of a odd spot, but I got good readings from it in that specific spot which were consistent.  
A little tripod would be great, I believe the one jlukes had was the adjustable legs? Either way a great solution to raise it up, but again a simple solution is just using the box.. or cutting the grass? haha

 

4 hours ago, jlukes said:

I did all my protocols on a range mat I have, so I made sure the monitor was raised up so it was above the range mat level

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1 hour ago, yungkory said:

 

Thanks dudes!

Here's a pic of the small tripod I use for the PRGR monitor. Works great since it's compact and I can easily take it to the range for driver work or back yard for SS work. IMG_7898.JPG.13b1b496db0496bcf27c166feb141224.JPG

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So, I've opined on this thread that, in my opinion, while it was helpful it wasn't absolutely necessary to have a radar to successfully pursue SuperSpeed training.  It's only right that I eat some crow, apologize to a few like @tony@CIC, and admit I was wrong...dead wrong.

My theory that I could make up for lack of a measuring device with effort and persistence did not appear to hold water.  If anyone has followed my offseason training thread you'll know I've beat the hell out of myself in the weight room, and have worked my way up to Level 4 SuperSpeed protocols, but did the latter absent a speed measuring device despite the sage wisdom of many on here.  

To say I've wasted my time would be inaccurate, but the speed gains have not been commensurate with the time or effort invested, so much so that I'm going back to the drawing board and starting all over at Level 1, plus a C Club protocol.  (I am trying to figure out how to work in some Single Arm work, but that's another conversation.)  This time, I have a radar.

Let this be a lesson to any other stubborn jack@sses like myself...get the damn radar.

Having gotten that off my chest...I did want to ask a question...many of you have described the benefit of the radar as helping you to identify what produces a fast swing versus simply a harder swing.  Can any of describe exactly what it was/is tangibly that you learned in your swing to produce greater speeds?  I keep waiting for the epiphany or realization to hit me, but for now I'm searching.  Case in point, on my C Club Max Out swings this morning at the end of the protocol, I had a 10 mph variance from the first swing to the second, and I can't honestly tell you what I physically did different at all.  Searching a bit.

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12 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

So, I've opined on this thread that, in my opinion, while it was helpful it wasn't absolutely necessary to have a radar to successfully pursue SuperSpeed training.  It's only right that I eat some crow, apologize to a few like @tony@CIC, and admit I was wrong...dead wrong.

My theory that I could make up for lack of a measuring device with effort and persistence did not appear to hold water.  If anyone has followed my offseason training thread you'll know I've beat the hell out of myself in the weight room, and have worked my way up to Level 4 SuperSpeed protocols, but did the latter absent a speed measuring device despite the sage wisdom of many on here.  

To say I've wasted my time would be inaccurate, but the speed gains have not been commensurate with the time or effort invested, so much so that I'm going back to the drawing board and starting all over at Level 1, plus a C Club protocol.  (I am trying to figure out how to work in some Single Arm work, but that's another conversation.)  This time, I have a radar.

Let this be a lesson to any other stubborn jack@sses like myself...get the damn radar.

Having gotten that off my chest...I did want to ask a question...many of you have described the benefit of the radar as helping you to identify what produces a fast swing versus simply a harder swing.  Can any of describe exactly what it was/is tangibly that you learned in your swing to produce greater speeds?  I keep waiting for the epiphany or realization to hit me, but for now I'm searching.  Case in point, on my C Club Max Out swings this morning at the end of the protocol, I had a 10 mph variance from the first swing to the second, and I can't honestly tell you what I physically did different at all.  Searching a bit.

I'm all in on this post. As I've suggested elsewhere, if I had to choose between having sticks and having a radar to gain speed, I'd likely go with the radar.

Here's a couple of things that have been crucial for me, as I'm trying to learn the difference between mere effort and speed:

  • Get my hands pulled as high as possible on the backswing. My thought here is taken from a Fit For Golf workout: I imagine an elastic band anchored at the ball position, and on the backswing, I'm turning and pulling up and away, pulling that "band" as tight as I can.
  • Then (at least for me): wait. This is the biggest thing the radar taught me. I'm not talking a Hideki-class pause. But I have to feel the shaft and head finish their backswing before pulling down. If I start early, I'm fighting the club. I'll pull really hard, but I will never get my fastest speeds like this.

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19 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

So, I've opined on this thread that, in my opinion, while it was helpful it wasn't absolutely necessary to have a radar to successfully pursue SuperSpeed training.  It's only right that I eat some crow, apologize to a few like @tony@CIC, and admit I was wrong...dead wrong.

My theory that I could make up for lack of a measuring device with effort and persistence did not appear to hold water.  If anyone has followed my offseason training thread you'll know I've beat the hell out of myself in the weight room, and have worked my way up to Level 4 SuperSpeed protocols, but did the latter absent a speed measuring device despite the sage wisdom of many on here.  

To say I've wasted my time would be inaccurate, but the speed gains have not been commensurate with the time or effort invested, so much so that I'm going back to the drawing board and starting all over at Level 1, plus a C Club protocol.  (I am trying to figure out how to work in some Single Arm work, but that's another conversation.)  This time, I have a radar.

Let this be a lesson to any other stubborn jack@sses like myself...get the damn radar.

Having gotten that off my chest...I did want to ask a question...many of you have described the benefit of the radar as helping you to identify what produces a fast swing versus simply a harder swing.  Can any of describe exactly what it was/is tangibly that you learned in your swing to produce greater speeds?  I keep waiting for the epiphany or realization to hit me, but for now I'm searching.  Case in point, on my C Club Max Out swings this morning at the end of the protocol, I had a 10 mph variance from the first swing to the second, and I can't honestly tell you what I physically did different at all.  Searching a bit.

I have found that personally the effort does not line up. When I try to swing hard I usually lose a few more mph than when I feel the focus is speed.

Also for another feel it's getting the energy from the ground to the swing earlier. If you get some drive into the ground getting that to a vertical force earlier than you think gets the best results. Mark Crossfield on YouTube dices into this on some of hit work since he has a force plate.

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After spending a month (after this Friday) back in the gym, I've finally got a radar ordered.  Plans are to be joining the fun either the end of this month or first of March. 

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13 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

.I did want to ask a question...many of you have described the benefit of the radar as helping you to identify what produces a fast swing versus simply a harder swing.  Can any of describe exactly what it was/is tangibly that you learned in your swing to produce greater speeds?  I keep waiting for the epiphany or realization to hit me, but for now I'm searching.  Case in point, on my C Club Max Out swings this morning at the end of the protocol, I had a 10 mph variance from the first swing to the second, and I can't honestly tell you what I physically did different at all.  Searching a bit.

Glad you're sold on the radar. A couple of my wife's friends started SS and gave up about halfway through protocol 2 - most likely because they didn't think it added to their swing speed (hence no motivation to continue).  How would they know since they didn't use a LM.

As to your question - I've watched a number of instructional videos on improving swing speed, but can't seem to implement with the sticks. Maybe it's because I'm an "old dog that can't learn new tricks" so I just try swinging harder. Note: I am using ground forces as @ejgaudette mentioned.   My dilemma is that I'm swinging them pretty fast for me (high 80's low 90's)  and can't imagine swinging them another 10 mph faster. Maybe that's a mental block or a physical limitation? Regardless, I'd be interested in other's thoughts  

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So, I've opined on this thread that, in my opinion, while it was helpful it wasn't absolutely necessary to have a radar to successfully pursue SuperSpeed training.  It's only right that I eat some crow, apologize to a few like [mention=68414]tony@CIC[/mention], and admit I was wrong...dead wrong.
My theory that I could make up for lack of a measuring device with effort and persistence did not appear to hold water.  If anyone has followed my offseason training thread you'll know I've beat the hell out of myself in the weight room, and have worked my way up to Level 4 SuperSpeed protocols, but did the latter absent a speed measuring device despite the sage wisdom of many on here.  
To say I've wasted my time would be inaccurate, but the speed gains have not been commensurate with the time or effort invested, so much so that I'm going back to the drawing board and starting all over at Level 1, plus a C Club protocol.  (I am trying to figure out how to work in some Single Arm work, but that's another conversation.)  This time, I have a radar.
Let this be a lesson to any other stubborn jack@sses like myself...get the damn radar.
Having gotten that off my chest...I did want to ask a question...many of you have described the benefit of the radar as helping you to identify what produces a fast swing versus simply a harder swing.  Can any of describe exactly what it was/is tangibly that you learned in your swing to produce greater speeds?  I keep waiting for the epiphany or realization to hit me, but for now I'm searching.  Case in point, on my C Club Max Out swings this morning at the end of the protocol, I had a 10 mph variance from the first swing to the second, and I can't honestly tell you what I physically did different at all.  Searching a bit.


I’m going to guess this will be different for different people. I know for me that sequencing matters - my top speeds come when the timing is just right, likewise with my best real swings - in reflex this may be my of talking about the pause that mpr reflects upon.

Also using the ground helps add a few mph and clearly the left hip leads to solid ball striking as well as speed.


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14 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Can any of describe exactly what it was/is tangibly that you learned in your swing to produce greater speeds?

I'm glad you came to this realization - I couldn't imagine trudging along with the only real measure of success being on the course (with the ball-striking issues many of us encountered at times).

To me, the thing that became apparent (through the help of @SuperSpeed Golf) was that tempo does not equal timing. Like @GolfSpy MPR, I get myself in trouble by starting my downswing before I finish my backswing. Thanks to these protocols and the radar for feedback, I can really feel when I do it. By increasing the speed of the backswing, my timing becomes better and I have less of a tendency to fight the club at the top. The only downside for me is I need more range time to get a more repeatable swing doing it as that is a non-trivial change for a mid-teens handicap to make.

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23 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Can any of describe exactly what it was/is tangibly that you learned in your swing to produce greater speeds?  I keep waiting for the epiphany or realization to hit me, but for now I'm searching.  Case in point, on my C Club Max Out swings this morning at the end of the protocol, I had a 10 mph variance from the first swing to the second, and I can't honestly tell you what I physically did different at all.  Searching a bit.

I experiment with feels or swing thoughts. I haven't to video'd to see if the feel was real... And sometimes old thoughts don't work during a certain session. Here's a few to play with:

* loose grip/wrists (help maximize wrist hinge)
high hands (max hand path, reach as far from ball as possible - I even tested with a measuring tape)
* stomp lead heel (I lift lead heel on nearly all full swings)
jump/push up with lead leg (often preceded by bump hips toward target) 
rip lead glute back from target (open hips)
whip lead knee toward trail knee (max hip turn) 

* are favourites and help me most often

I'm not 100% confident in the ability of a $300 unit to accurately capture max speed every swing. I'm sure it is taking a "snapshot" at a point along the swing arc which may not always be your max depending on release timing. Averages, max speeds, and trends over time should be the focus compared to your slowest swing of the day. The first swing is seldom the fastest, your body needs to figure out timing as all these clubs are different weights and load different. 

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Question for the group and possible superspeed folks. When you do the step change, is your lead foot supposed to end on where you normally take your stance for best results? I find I really "jump" forward and extend myself and was not sure if that's best.

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11 minutes ago, tchat07 said:

Question for the group and possible superspeed folks. When you do the step change, is your lead foot supposed to end on where you normally take your stance for best results? I find I really "jump" forward and extend myself and was not sure if that's best.

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I tried to maintain a normal Position, but I also focus on staying a bit more upright for my swing mechanics... Weather is warming up so about time to fire it all up again!!

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19 minutes ago, tchat07 said:

Question for the group and possible superspeed folks. When you do the step change, is your lead foot supposed to end on where you normally take your stance for best results? I find I really "jump" forward and extend myself and was not sure if that's best.

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We were asked to send videos of our step change when I was taking part in the original step group.  The one suggestion that I received was to keep the stride at the length of my hips - so as close to normal stance as possible while still being aggressive.  

There is a model video of step changes on the SuperSpeed website, you might review that also.  

 

I hope that helps.

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I've mentioned it before but Superspeeds youtube is a great resource. They just posted this which was pretty good!

 

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On 2/17/2021 at 5:49 PM, Getoffmylawn said:

So, I've opined on this thread that, in my opinion, while it was helpful it wasn't absolutely necessary to have a radar to successfully pursue SuperSpeed training.  It's only right that I eat some crow, apologize to a few like @tony@CIC, and admit I was wrong...dead wrong.

My theory that I could make up for lack of a measuring device with effort and persistence did not appear to hold water.  If anyone has followed my offseason training thread you'll know I've beat the hell out of myself in the weight room, and have worked my way up to Level 4 SuperSpeed protocols, but did the latter absent a speed measuring device despite the sage wisdom of many on here.  

To say I've wasted my time would be inaccurate, but the speed gains have not been commensurate with the time or effort invested, so much so that I'm going back to the drawing board and starting all over at Level 1, plus a C Club protocol.  (I am trying to figure out how to work in some Single Arm work, but that's another conversation.)  This time, I have a radar.

Let this be a lesson to any other stubborn jack@sses like myself...get the damn radar.

Having gotten that off my chest...I did want to ask a question...many of you have described the benefit of the radar as helping you to identify what produces a fast swing versus simply a harder swing.  Can any of describe exactly what it was/is tangibly that you learned in your swing to produce greater speeds?  I keep waiting for the epiphany or realization to hit me, but for now I'm searching.  Case in point, on my C Club Max Out swings this morning at the end of the protocol, I had a 10 mph variance from the first swing to the second, and I can't honestly tell you what I physically did different at all.  Searching a bit.

There have been lots of great swing thoughts posted already, and I'm duplicating some of them. But, for sake of anyone stopping by this review, thought I'd add in my thoughts/feels:

  • Loose wrists/forearms.
  • Good balance throughout the swing. 
  • High hands on the backswing.
  • A slight "pause" of the hands at the top, which for me is more of a reminder to not rip the club down from the top.
  • Fluid hips and lower body, with a big turn into my right side. Get the belt buckle pointed as far to the right as possible.
  • Feeling like I accelerate through the hitting zone.

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Anyone on here change the grips on your speed sticks? I’m thinking of trying a CB jumbo max grip to reduce hand pressure and tension while doing to protocols


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3 hours ago, twyatt700 said:

Anyone on here change the grips on your speed sticks? I’m thinking of trying a CB jumbo max grip to reduce hand pressure and tension while doing to protocols


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Haven't, but can't say it would be any different then a normal Club in the procesd. It was something i put in my review that i would like to see in the future. A sort of custom fitting option with different grips, sizes and so on.

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9 hours ago, twyatt700 said:

Anyone on here change the grips on your speed sticks? I’m thinking of trying a CB jumbo max grip to reduce hand pressure and tension while doing to protocols


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That is a good thought! I typically use midsize grips because they seem to reduce discomfort in my slightly arthritic left hand.

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Anyone not using their PRGR swing speed radar? 

After being in the first testing for a bit before my hip surgery, I had to send the sticks back to SS & now I don't have a swing speed radar.  Today I received my set again after forking out the cash in my desperate search for more swing speed.  Gonna be hard to track my results without a radar.  

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Does anyone have the excel files to use during the protocol?  

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Does anyone have the excel files to use during the protocol?  



I just used a piece of paper and then entered it on their sheet. It worked fine.

Glad you’ve recovered well enough to give it a whirl. I felt bad for you when you went down.


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I just used a piece of paper and then entered it on their sheet. It worked fine.

Glad you’ve recovered well enough to give it a whirl. I felt bad for you when you went down.


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Does anyone have the excel files to use during the protocol?  


I made my own excel sheet. Pretty much up to the individual as to how they want to make it.


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