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20 minutes ago, B.Boston said:

I'll do mine on the grass, unless its wet then I'll do it on the concrete.  I didn't notice much difference in my speeds.  I'm looking for some turf or something that I can use because I tear up a lot of grass doing the workouts.  Even in sneakers I'm just about down to dirt by the time I finish.

I have several noticeably bare spots in my backyard from the last two year's worth of training, and I only use sneakers so I'm sure it'd be worse with spikes.

During the winter I do the protocols in the garage on concrete. I've made some pretty spark showers before bouncing the sticks off the concrete.

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2 hours ago, tchat07 said:

Does everyone do the protocol on grass or concrete? I dont really have a very flat area in my grass so I often do it on concrete but the other day did the protocol in the grass and my numbers were down across the board by about 5mph. Wondering if I should start doing it in the grass more in order for a more realistic training or does swinging harder on concrete better prepare the neural pathways.

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I have a commercial grade driving range mat that I do my protocols on 

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Generally I do mine on grass in my back yard with soft spikes - I have a spot that's worn down and its hard to grow grass there anyway.  I've used the driveway while keeping the radar and swing area on grass and that worked fine. 

I've also tried the gym at church - I lost speed on that surface.

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4 hours ago, tchat07 said:

Does everyone do the protocol on grass or concrete? I dont really have a very flat area in my grass so I often do it on concrete but the other day did the protocol in the grass and my numbers were down across the board by about 5mph. Wondering if I should start doing it in the grass more in order for a more realistic training or does swinging harder on concrete better prepare the neural pathways.

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It's basic physics at this point.  The softer ground will absorb more energy and reduce reaction of pushing off.  In staying consistent with the super speed system, I would argue to continue to practice on concrete to allow your body to relearn at this increased speeds.  This will mostly likely provide improved speed when you tee it up.  And if I'm totally wrong here someone please tell me!

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It's basic physics at this point.  The softer ground will absorb more energy and reduce reaction of pushing off.  In staying consistent with the super speed system, I would argue to continue to practice on concrete to allow your body to relearn at this increased speeds.  This will mostly likely provide improved speed when you tee it up.  And if I'm totally wrong here someone please tell me!

There’s got to be some trade-off with grip too. If you loose a bit of traction in sneakers on the driveway vs spikes on the grass that might eat up all if not more than the gain you get from firmer ground.


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28 minutes ago, B.Boston said:


There’s got to be some trade-off with grip too. If you loose a bit of traction in sneakers on the driveway vs spikes on the grass that might eat up all if not more than the gain you get from firmer ground.


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5 hours ago, tchat07 said:

Does everyone do the protocol on grass or concrete? I dont really have a very flat area in my grass so I often do it on concrete but the other day did the protocol in the grass and my numbers were down across the board by about 5mph. Wondering if I should start doing it in the grass more in order for a more realistic training or does swinging harder on concrete better prepare the neural pathways.

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And to answer,  I've been doing to protocol's on concrete the whole time and haven't noticed a drop in speed on the course vs in my garage.

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Thanks for all the feedback guys. I definitely like seeing the higher speeds so probably going to stick to my concrete swings. I do agree I have seen a few spark shows going that route. I put a turf mat to protect the sticks haha.

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The paint on our deck has sand in it - very good grip in tennis shoes, but what prompted me to use a door mat was after sparks flew off my driver. Nice little scuff on the bottom now. Yes, I'm an idiot.
I followed the 18 version pretty much for the entirety and will say that it seems to be a right of passage to hit the ground at least once or twice or the poor (pre-PRGR) "radars" that you put straight in front of your swing.

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Not sure if it was the heat and humidity or recovery from the Memorial Day weekend - but yesterday's swings were lower with all of the sticks - most in the 3-4 mph range. Will be interesting to see what tomorrow brings, hopefully the numbers will be back up. 

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Not sure if it was the heat and humidity or recovery from the Memorial Day weekend - but yesterday's swings were lower with all of the sticks - most in the 3-4 mph range. Will be interesting to see what tomorrow brings, hopefully the numbers will be back up. 


I have noticed variations as well based on time of day and how much fun work was that day or what I was doing prior to swings. With the nicer weather I have been running again so I am working on how I schedule the swings.

Overall I have seen consistent gains.


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16 hours ago, cnosil said:

I started doing the protocols during last years testing and stopped due to pain in my fingers but the 2020 thread inspired me to get started again.  The big question was where to start;  I was through 19 weeks so my thought was to start protocol 3 over again but I would judge based on numbers from my first session.  Having done most wanted driver testing,  I knew my swing speed on GC Quad was generally in the 106-108 range when making a normal shot.   Took a before number and swung at 108.   Started the protocol and my initial numbers were just under where I stopped last year so I think I am starting at a good place.   

Very quickly my fingers starting hurting like they were last year.  I thought that maybe I was holding the club to tight so I loosened my grip a little which helped with the pain but will be something I continue to monitor.    

Did a driver speed test after the session and recorded a top speed of 117.   

Thanks to all the people participating in the thread to help get me motivated to get started again!

I had the same problem with the fingers.  I've been double gloving for the training and really working on relaxing my hands. This has really helped me and relaxing the hands improved my swing speed and I had better ball striking on the course. 

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5 hours ago, twyatt700 said:

I had the same problem with the fingers.  I've been double gloving for the training and really working on relaxing my hands. This has really helped me and relaxing the hands improved my swing speed and I had better ball striking on the course. 

Double rain gloves is the only way for me with the protocols, especially because of the lefty swings 

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