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3 minutes ago, ChasingScratch said:

Update: went to the doctor, he said he expects me to be fine. Just need more rest and recovery. Kyle from SuperSpeed doesn’t want time to try and return too soon again. I’m anxious but want to be smart as well. I’ll probably end up being a few weeks behind when all is said and done.


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What did the doctor say just a tweak? Good news either way though!


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What did the doctor say just a tweak? Good news either way though!


Most likely a bad muscle pull or minor tear. It’s just in a really unfortunate spot (lower left back which is the clearing side for a righty). Said my hips were a bit out of alignment and that could’ve just been the straw that broke my back.


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1 hour ago, Smellis745 said:

Now that you guys are getting deeper in the training, what are you finding on the course?

So far, I've been perhaps a little more inconsistent off the tee with more right misses than usual, but no left misses since I started the program. I'll take a one-sided miss over my usual nearly 50/50 left/right split any day. Distance is hard to assess with wet fairways and no roll, but many have been in the high end of my Arccos smart range, even without much roll. I have topped a couple tee balls, which I almost never do, so I'm tempted to think all these protocol swings intentionally trying to be around 6" off the ground may be contributing? Just a guess. Irons have been good - I feel smoother and this week in league I was a half to a full club longer than normal on quite a few shots. It may be too soon to tell for me since I tend to be inconsistent from week to week and can be very streaky, so we'll see as things progress.

They finally opened the range at our league course, so I'm going early next week to spend time hitting balls and see what adjustments I can make.

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I started doing the protocols during last years testing and stopped due to pain in my fingers but the 2020 thread inspired me to get started again.  The big question was where to start;  I was through 19 weeks so my thought was to start protocol 3 over again but I would judge based on numbers from my first session.  Having done most wanted driver testing,  I knew my swing speed on GC Quad was generally in the 106-108 range when making a normal shot.   Took a before number and swung at 108.   Started the protocol and my initial numbers were just under where I stopped last year so I think I am starting at a good place.   
Very quickly my fingers starting hurting like they were last year.  I thought that maybe I was holding the club to tight so I loosened my grip a little which helped with the pain but will be something I continue to monitor.    
Did a driver speed test after the session and recorded a top speed of 117.   
Thanks to all the people participating in the thread to help get me motivated to get started again!



Have you considered CBD cream? That stuff works well for most people. It’s been a Godsend for me. I use it on my left elbow and fingers two or three times a week.


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46 minutes ago, revkev said:


Have you considered CBD cream? That stuff works well for most people. It’s been a Godsend for me. I use it on my left elbow and fingers two or three times a week.
 

 

 

Can't use it.   My company has stated that using CBD oils, cream, etc. should not be used due to avoid any potential of issues with a drug test. 

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9 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Can't use it.   My company has stated that using CBD oils, cream, etc. should not be used due to avoid any potential of issues with a drug test. 

That’s a bummer. Have you tried Voltaren gel?

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2 minutes ago, joen said:

That’s a bummer. Have you tried Voltaren gel?

Haven't tried anything;  once I stopped doing the protocols the pain stopped.  I'll try a couple of more sessions and if the pain comes back Ill take a look. 

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10 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Haven't tried anything;  once I stopped doing the protocols the pain stopped.  I'll try a couple of more sessions and if the pain comes back Ill take a look. 

Got it. Sorry, I didn’t realize that this was pain brought on by the training.

Two thoughts pop to mind. 
     One. This is musculoskeletal. 
     Two.  This is a nerve irritation which is occurring. 
These exercises are done at crazy high speeds with a high potential for injury. 
My shoulders were killing me last year, and I stopped the Superspeed program. Shoulder pain went away. I have hit the weights like never before, and resumed the Superspeed training. No more shoulder pain. Clearly I wasn’t strong enough to handle the torque that I was generating. 
I never do my training if my body doesn’t feel like it wants to.....I was supposed to train today but I slept horrible last night so no training. I wish you the best with this because your increase in speed you discussed makes you a Superspeed poster boy. 

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:callaway-logo-1: Rogue Heavenwood regular flex shaft

:cleveland-small: Launcher HB irons 4-6 regular flex

:mizuno-small: JPX 850 7 iron thru Gap Wedge with KBS C taper lite shaft

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24 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Haven't tried anything;  once I stopped doing the protocols the pain stopped.  I'll try a couple of more sessions and if the pain comes back Ill take a look. 

I suggest the "Deep Blue" essential oil blend by Doterra. It works.

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18 minutes ago, joen said:

Got it. Sorry, I didn’t realize that this was pain brought on by the training.

Two thoughts pop to mind. 
     One. This is musculoskeletal. 
     Two.  This is a nerve irritation which is occurring. 
These exercises are done at crazy high speeds with a high potential for injury. 
My shoulders were killing me last year, and I stopped the Superspeed program. Shoulder pain went away. I have hit the weights like never before, and resumed the Superspeed training. No more shoulder pain. Clearly I wasn’t strong enough to handle the torque that I was generating. 
I never do my training if my body doesn’t feel like it wants to.....I was supposed to train today but I slept horrible last night so no training. I wish you the best with this because your increase in speed you discussed makes you a Superspeed poster boy. 

Thanks.  Last year I thought it was just too much golf.  I was doing superspeed,  playing twice a week and then doing most wanted testing a couple of times a week.   Been playing about once a week this year and no issues.  Pretty sure you are right and it is coming from the effort to swing fast.  

Not sure I am a poster boy,  my speed gains are pretty typical.  Comfortable swings were about 5 MPH faster after doing the training last year.  It be happy to have a comfortable 112-115 swing speed;  I think that would be pretty good for a 55 year old.  

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On 5/5/2020 at 8:37 PM, B.Boston said:

@B.Boston you’re seeing some great gains here! What we’ve found is that the C club can help players break through plateaus and also those who are deficient in speed in the hand and arm segments. The 3 club set you have will help improve ground mechanics and how fast your pelvis and torso segments move but typically won’t increase hand and arm speed as much. The C club targets that specifically. You’d most likely see even more of a jump adding in the C club. Doesn’t have to be now but at some point. 
 


 

mention]Bucky CC [/mention] any SuperSpeed C updates? I’m thinking about giving it a shot since
I typically feel like my hands and arms are along for the ride in my swing.

[mention]SuperSpeed Golf [/mention] any advice here... I’m almost done with “week 11” workouts and have noticed my max green speeds seem slow compared to my actual driver swings.



If I take a session of dry swings with driver making as good a “real” swing as I can I hit 108-111 with regularity. My top speeds with the green stick tend to be around 120. I feel like I should be swinging the green faster.

Is this within a normal range you guys see?
Is the SuperSpeed C club good to help someone with “dead hands” get a little more action? Or is it more suited to someone who already uses their hands actively?


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On 5/5/2020 at 9:02 PM, B.Boston said:

@B.Boston we are looking for the following speeds in relation to your driver while hitting a ball. When not hitting a ball with driver it should be closer to the red club. You may not start there but those are goals to strive for.

20% faster with green

16% faster with blue

10-12% faster with red

Some things we find that can help get players a little more speed during the training are wearing a stable shoe and a glove on each hand. If the feet are slipping or hands are slipping your brain will slow you down to make sure you are stable and to not let the club slip out of the hands.

Back on the old thread or maybe even one of the main site articles there was mention of swinging the driver at 80% of green speed so 114 driver speed could see 140ish on the green stick. I am currently seeing closer to 90%. Not that I’m complaining as the end result in the course is what matters. Just curious if there’s anything else I can do or should try.

(But that’s freaking awesome for a first session man!)

I can already tell this is going to be a good group to follow.


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Update: went to the doctor, he said he expects me to be fine. Just need more rest and recovery. Kyle from SuperSpeed doesn’t want time to try and return too soon again. I’m anxious but want to be smart as well. I’ll probably end up being a few weeks behind when all is said and done.


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That’s great to hear!


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23 hours ago, ChasingScratch said:

Update: went to the doctor, he said he expects me to be fine. Just need more rest and recovery. Kyle from SuperSpeed doesn’t want time to try and return too soon again. I’m anxious but want to be smart as well. I’ll probably end up being a few weeks behind when all is said and done.


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That's great news! I'm glad to hear that it was nothing major. I wish you a speedy recovery and can't wait for you to be able to safely get back to training. Your vlogs have been amazing! 

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On 5/7/2020 at 1:33 PM, revkev said:

Hi @revkev we switched this year to the new PRGR pocket launch monitor instead of the Swing Speed Radar. It measures swing speed with our without a ball, ball speed, smash factor, total and carry distance. Pretty darn good for the price point considering other devices out there.
 

I was looking for the price of that launch monitor on the Superspeed site and couldn't find it - is this a new product that isn't out in the US yet?

 

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On 5/9/2020 at 10:56 AM, Rtracymog said:

@Rtracymog @ChasingScratch we are looking for you to get out of your comfort zone during the training. Doesn’t need to be falling over but we want you to be aggressive through the hitting zone. 
Just because you may swing somewhat differently during the training doesn’t mean that it will transfer that to your swing when hitting a ball. 
Some also find that this helps their swing become more efficient. 
 

My question for you guys is are you trying to maintain balance when going after it as hard as possible or are you just ripping at it? I’ve seen a few people’s videos and they would be lucky to hit a fairway or two the way they are going after the super speed sticks. Are you at all worried about sacrificing accuracy for the sake of speed?


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On 5/10/2020 at 6:55 PM, jlukes said:

@jlukes for a player at your speed the things to consider are just optimizing finer detail specs after gaining speed. You may notice trajectory and flight change some. The things that could help are a ball fitting and ensuring the set up on the woods is good like shaft and weight. 
Also, the ability to hit long irons goes up tremendously when adding speed. It’s amazing what guys like Rory can do with a 3 iron. 
 

I think I'll be good. Won't be changing any real mechanics here, and I'm already fit into xstiff shafts across the board and iron heads that are based around precision and not manufacturing ball speed. 

 

 

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well, something new to report. My driver has become completely unhittable. Last week, my driver was the best club in my bag, I was hitting it farther and straighter then ever and today, I can barely hit it....not feeling great about it

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