2020 Forum Member Review - SuperSpeed Training System

[MaxEntropy]

1 hour ago, B.Boston said:

So you weren’t a switch hitter in baseball either huh?

Lol. I was pretty good at making contact, but struggled to get it out of the infield.

[revkev]

For the testers that were able to stay on schedule Level 2 is now coming up. 
Here is the video for reference. https://superspeedgolf.com/pages/overspeed-training-protocol-level-2
 
We are now adding a kneeling swing position. 
The two main tips here are to make sure to keep the knees directly under the hips not wider. If they get wider it restricts the movement of the pelvis. We want the pelvis to rotate as it would in a full standing swing. 
Also, make sure to put something soft under the knees such as a yoga mat or rolled up towel.
If anyone feels discomfort let us know and we can troubleshoot. At the bottom of the protocol page there is a alternative version that is standing with a narrow stance. 
 
These swings will be much more rounded in the swing plane compared to a standing swing. 

Look forward to getting started!
 

Better known as the torture portion of your testing!

Good luck! I learned about protein prior to workouts and the healing power of Greek Yogurt, cherries and CBD cream post workout during this portion of the program.

It hasn’t been nearly so tough on my body this second time through.


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[GolfSpy_APH]

Anyone feel they could make a solid effort at going opposite handed for a round or two after this?

I don't mind my swing speed numbers, but I feel making contact would be a whole other issue, however the swing feels a lot better then I would have figured. 

Oh and reached 130! With the green stocks! Still waiting for 120 with the driver with a few at 119. 

[GolfSpy BOS]

Anyone feel they could make a solid effort at going opposite handed for a round or two after this?
I don't mind my swing speed numbers, but I feel making contact would be a whole other issue, however the swing feels a lot better then I would have figured. 

Sounds like that would make for a fun and interesting thread/challenge. I have a few friends who are lefties and probably would let me borrow clubs.

You might be on to something.


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[GolfSpy_APH]

I mentioned it in the lefty thread, but TC from NLU is going the entire season lefty included their tourist sauce season. Had some really good and interesting reasons behind it and will be amazing to watch.

I may be able to scrounge up a right handed set in a week or so and give it a try for those who may be interested. I'm thinking only 9 holes though haha

[GolfSpy AFG]

Funny you mention that; yesterday was my first workout where I felt like my lefty swings were smoothing out and looking like a mildly coordinated golf swing.  I'm going to have to borrow my buddies lefty club and go to the range and see.

[GolfSpy BOS]

50 minutes ago, Apolloshowl said:

I mentioned it in the lefty thread, but TC from NLU is going the entire season lefty included their tourist sauce season. Had some really good and interesting reasons behind it and will be amazing to watch.

I may be able to scrounge up a right handed set in a week or so and give it a try for those who may be interested. I'm thinking only 9 holes though haha

 

4 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Funny you mention that; yesterday was my first workout where I felt like my lefty swings were smoothing out and looking like a mildly coordinated golf swing.  I'm going to have to borrow my buddies lefty club and go to the range and see.

I will say onetime on a par 3 I grabbed my friends 8 iron to try an approach shot left handed.....  It did not look pretty once I needed to add the skill of hitting a ball. haha

[GolfSpy AFG]

1 minute ago, B.Boston said:

 

I will say onetime on a par 3 I grabbed my friends 8 iron to try an approach shot left handed.....  It did not look pretty once I needed to add the skill of hitting a ball. haha

That's what I'd expect; same dynamic as our dominant side regular swings...looks good until you put a ball down there and then everything changes!

Started my fifth week of Level 1 yesterday.  Can't wait to get to 6 July and get to Level 2; right now these workouts have me wanting to do more.

[DriverBreaker]

Level 1 Week 3 review video below:

I decided to cut out the video footage of the non-dominant swings for brevity and to help with the length of the videos.

To date, I have hit 138mph with the normal and 132mph on the step-change swings with the green sticks, 131mph and 130mph with the blue, and 124mph and 120mph with the red.

Driver has stalled at 120mph, which is 4mph slower than my pre-test and 10mph lower than my max one-time swing during the training.

The last round I played was on Father's Day and I was finding the middle of the driver face all the time.  Hit it very accurately and solid.

*Edit: I have an error in the video. I actually hit 138mph with the green stick in Week 1.

Edited June 23, 2020 by ChasingScratch

[cnosil]

It is interesting that when you just look at numbers from a week to week basis it is easy to discouraged that this week is down from the past couple of weeks and think the program isn't working.  I decided to graph each club since the beginning and while I have up and down weeks,  the trend of the speeds is definitely upward.  Keep the long term in mind and realize that you will not increase speeds each week.  

 

[GolfSpy BOS]

It is interesting that when you just look at numbers from a week to week basis it is easy to discouraged that this week is down from the past couple of weeks and think the program isn't working.  I decided to graph each club since the beginning and while I have up and down weeks,  the trend of the speeds is definitely upward.  Keep the long term in mind and realize that you will not increase speeds each week.  
 

Yup. There’s ups and downs for sure. But my driver speed is most certainly up. So I’m not worried about those day to day variances.

To any testers feeling discouraged. Stick with it!


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[tony@CIC]

It is interesting that when you just look at numbers from a week to week basis it is easy to discouraged that this week is down from the past couple of weeks and think the program isn't working.  I decided to graph each club since the beginning and while I have up and down weeks,  the trend of the speeds is definitely upward.  Keep the long term in mind and realize that you will not increase speeds each week.  
 

Looking at the variance in your numbers I don't feel so bad. I'll be posting my protocol 1 numbers tomorrow and the chart will have a similar look.


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[SuperSpeed Golf]

It’s amazing how fast many of the longer players and Long Drive professionals can swing on their non dominant side. 
Here is a recent video of Brooks Koepka hitting 110 mph while hitting a driver left handed. 
 

 

 

[SuperSpeed Golf]

5 hours ago, ChasingScratch said:

Level 1 Week 3 review video below:

I decided to cut out the video footage of the non-dominant swings for brevity and to help with the length of the videos.

To date, I have hit 138mph with the normal and 132mph on the step-change swings with the green sticks, 131mph and 130mph with the blue, and 124mph and 120mph with the red.

Driver has stalled at 120mph, which is 4mph slower than my pre-test and 10mph lower than my max one-time swing during the training.

The last round I played was on Father's Day and I was finding the middle of the driver face all the time.  Hit it very accurately and solid.

*Edit: I have an error in the video. I actually hit 138mph with the green stick in Week 1.

@ChasingScratch really appreciate you putting these videos together for everyone! Definitely less leg drive happening now. One thought here is that after someone has an injury it can take a bit of time for the brain to allow to speed to jump back up to the fear that more strain in that segment can induce that pain response. It’s a natural protective mechanism but as you continue to prove to yourself that it feels ok then that fades. 
 

One cue to add when swinging the driver testing speeds is to increase the speed of the backswing which can create greater muscle activation during transition leading to more speed through the ball. It’s like a rebound effect. 

[tony@CIC]

14 minutes ago, SuperSpeed Golf said:

One cue to add when swinging the driver testing speeds is to increase the speed of the backswing which can create greater muscle activation during transition leading to more speed through the ball. It’s like a rebound effect. 

I tend to have a fairly slow back swing - will increasing the back swing present problems on the course? 

[revkev]

So I cracked 100 kneeling swings this afternoon - do I get a prize?

And me knees aren’t aching tonight.


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[SuperSpeed Golf]

3 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

I tend to have a fairly slow back swing - will increasing the back swing present problems on the course? 

@tony@CIC great question. It could make mechanics feel off or it could make them feel better. Want to reiterate that a lot of thIs process involves discovery learning and getting out of one’s comfort zone. It does add another variable but most golfers have never tried adding speed to their backswing. It’s been drilled into us to have a slow rhythmic looking backswing. For some players that slowness is going to cause them to be both short and crooked. Others may fare better.
Feel free to give it a try just on some driver swings. We are not asking everyone to add that to the SuperSpeed routine. More so just helping Tony get a bit of a breakthrough. 
 

let us know how it goes! 

[GolfSpy AFG]

Did a 0600 Level 1 workout this morning, and was feeling fast.

I've switched up the programming a bit and rather than do the workouts in the evening, I'm doing them first thing in the morning before my regular workouts, still Monday-Wednesday-Friday.  It seems to me I'm fresher and more able to go "all in" on the SS training if I haven't already done ab work and my normal strength training workouts.

4 more level 1 workouts before level 2 begins!

[Mike Lambert]

9 hours ago, SuperSpeed Golf said:

@tony@CIC great question. It could make mechanics feel off or it could make them feel better. Want to reiterate that a lot of thIs process involves discovery learning and getting out of one’s comfort zone. It does add another variable but most golfers have never tried adding speed to their backswing. It’s been drilled into us to have a slow rhythmic looking backswing. For some players that slowness is going to cause them to be both short and crooked. Others may fare better.
Feel free to give it a try just on some driver swings. We are not asking everyone to add that to the SuperSpeed routine. More so just helping Tony get a bit of a breakthrough. 
 

let us know how it goes! 

That's interesting, and matches my experience to some extent:  at times, I've tried to slow down my backswing a little to try and hit the magic 3:1 ratio (I'm generally around 2.2-2.3:1 according to Zepp), but that does seem to hurt my ball striking, at least when I'm hitting into a net in my backyard.  I think I'm just going to abandon that idea in favor of that rebound effect you mentioned.  If nothing else, that will remove one extraneous swing thought from my crowed brain  

I got the Zepp when I first started playing 4 years ago, and tend to use it on-and-off, mainly in the spring - it was the first golf-training item I picked up.  I may just retire it, I think it's giving me too much to think about.  Maybe the most interesting info is seeing how much steeper my downswing is when there's a ball to hit than with a practice swing.  

Speaking of swings, I hit 110 and 113 on the green sticks Monday and this morning, so the speed is coming back in week 2.  One good thing about having to work from home is that I can do the protocol in the morning between meetings.  Definitely better than the end of the day.  The big day will be seeing some red swings crack 100.

[tony@CIC]

On 6/22/2020 at 8:19 AM, tony@CIC said:

That's a great improvement. I seem to be stuck in the 180-190 range, so hoping I can get a Protocol 2 jump shortly. 

I need new glasses - my post should have read 80 -90 . I wish it was 180-190. 

[MaxEntropy]

9 hours ago, SuperSpeed Golf said:

@tony@CIC great question. It could make mechanics feel off or it could make them feel better. Want to reiterate that a lot of thIs process involves discovery learning and getting out of one’s comfort zone. It does add another variable but most golfers have never tried adding speed to their backswing. It’s been drilled into us to have a slow rhythmic looking backswing. For some players that slowness is going to cause them to be both short and crooked. Others may fare better.
Feel free to give it a try just on some driver swings. We are not asking everyone to add that to the SuperSpeed routine. More so just helping Tony get a bit of a breakthrough. 
 

let us know how it goes! 

This is very interesting. Tempo is a problem for me, so I've tried to focus on more of a course-like backswing while doing to protocols. 

[DriverBreaker]

Week 4 day 1 complete!

I did hit 133mph with a green dominant side swing (5mph slower than my fastest, but still faster than what I was stuck on before 132mph).

I forgot my driver in my regular golf bag, so no driver swings tonight.

Here is my funky-looking chart of my daily top speed with the green, blue, red, and driver:

*Edit: Day 3 for green should be 138mph*

Edited June 25, 2020 by ChasingScratch

[MaxEntropy]

20 hours ago, MaxEntropy said:

This is very interesting. Tempo is a problem for me, so I've tried to focus on more of a course-like backswing while doing to protocols. 

I don't know if it was the weather (beautiful mid-70's, little humidity) or a "tempo-be-damned" attitude, but the speeds were back up to normal last night after a dip for a couple sessions. On kneeling swings, a few times I caught myself trying to take a mini "step" by lifting and planting my lead knee (especially on LH swings). I assume we don't want to do that.

[tony@CIC]

On 6/24/2020 at 1:35 AM, SuperSpeed Golf said:

tony@CIC great question. It could make mechanics feel off or it could make them feel better. Want to reiterate that a lot of thIs process involves discovery learning and getting out of one’s comfort zone. It does add another variable but most golfers have never tried adding speed to their backswing. It’s been drilled into us to have a slow rhythmic looking backswing. For some players that slowness is going to cause them to be both short and crooked. Others may fare better.
Feel free to give it a try just on some driver swings. We are not asking everyone to add that to the SuperSpeed routine. More so just helping Tony get a bit of a breakthrough.

Did the Level 2, Day 1 protocol yesterday and tried the faster back swing. It didn't add much to the overall speed so I'm hesitant to 'ingrain' that into my back swing. In the past the faster back swing created havoc with my driver. Perhaps I'm being overly cautious, but the trade off for me is dispersion over distance. I tend to favor dispersion. 

FYI, as I get ready to do a mini review, I can dogmatically state I am very pleased with protocol 1 results! Yes they could have been better, but they look like long term sustainable results. 

  

[Mike Lambert]

22 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

I need new glasses - my post should have read 80 -90 . I wish it was 180-190. 

You'll get there!  if it's any consolation, I just looked back to my first time through the program, I didn't see any jump until the 4th week of of protocol 2, so 10 weeks in.  All the sudden, I had a 6 mph jump and stayed very steady again thru week 22 (that's when I stopped for the summer).

Edited June 25, 2020 by Mike Lambert

[DriverBreaker]

@SuperSpeed Golf was mentioned several times on the NoPuttsGiven podcast (the one where they talked about Bryson DeChambeau.

Just a little plug in case you anyone hand't listened to it yet and was interested.  I've been seeing lots of organic advertising for SuperSpeed on a variety of golf media lately.

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Oh man the new protocol is fun to do in 90 degree heat! 

[tchat07]

Oh man the new protocol is fun to do in 90 degree heat! 

Haha yup did that the other day. Was sweating before I even started warming up haha. Ended up having to dry the grips during the protocol.

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[Deadskins]

So much for club head speed for old guys.  The sons and Grandsons came over on Sunday.  I proudly told them how I have gone 80 to 95 in 9 weeks.  After a few beers, we went out to try the yellow club.  Grandsons 10 and 12 got 77 and 89.  Thirty-six year old sons that hit the range twice a decade got 101 and 117.  Cannot wait until next year, when I get in the 100s.

[GolfSpy BOS]

So much for club head speed for old guys.  The sons and Grandsons came over on Sunday.  I proudly told them how I have gone 80 to 95 in 9 weeks.  After a few beers, we went out to try the yellow club.  Grandsons 10 and 12 got 77 and 89.  Thirty-six year old sons that hit the range twice a decade got 101 and 117.  Cannot wait until next year, when I get in the 100s.

That doesn’t make the 80-95 any less impressive!


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