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Played an interesting course Saturday, Southers Marsh in Plymouth, MA - it built around working cranberry bogs - also, it's an executive course, so pretty short (but plenty of opportunity to lose balls in the cranberries).  Anyway, didn't have a lot of chance to "take off the governor" because I was having a terrible round for the first 9 or 10 holes (topping the ball all over the place), but eventually got straightened out enough where I felt comfortable letting 'er rip - and hit what I think was my longest drive yet (about 220, which is a neighborhood I'd be happy to live in, at least for now 😀). I forgot to start my Arccos, but one of the guys I was playing with had one, so I'm estimating based on his distance).  So I'm glad I saw @revkev mention the other day Daisy's challenge to him last year; gonna keep it up now.

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11 hours ago, ChasingScratch said:

Ok, Level 1 Week 4 Day 2 done.

I felt like I really grasped the "heel pressure" concept today (thanks Kyle).  Felt like I could get a ton of ground forces vertically by really pressurizing that heel.

That being said, I felt insanely fast today.  I was holding on for dear life on some swings.  However, the PRGR didn't seem to show any differences from when I feel slow.  Jury is still out for me on that one.  I mean when you hear the stick sounding like a whip cracking through the air and you look down and see the same speeds as when it sounds normal, I just don't know.

Unfortunately the wind was blowing like crazy today, so I'll have to mute the swing audio in the video (have to love Texas winds...).

@ChasingScratch when you are using the PRGR and feeling like you were faster than it is reading try moving it to the side of where ball position would be for driver or even a few inches forward toward the target. You may be producing those higher speeds a little more out front of the ball and they just aren’t catching on the launch monitor at their peak speed. 

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6 hours ago, SuperSpeed Golf said:

@ChasingScratch when you are using the PRGR and feeling like you were faster than it is reading try moving it to the side of where ball position would be for driver or even a few inches forward toward the target. You may be producing those higher speeds a little more out front of the ball and they just aren’t catching on the launch monitor at their peak speed. 

Good tip, thanks @SuperSpeed Golf  I have the Speed Radar unit and sometimes have trouble getting swings to register, mostly on my non-dominant side with the step change - I'll give this a try.

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[mention=86896]ChasingScratch[/mention] when you are using the PRGR and feeling like you were faster than it is reading try moving it to the side of where ball position would be for driver or even a few inches forward toward the target. You may be producing those higher speeds a little more out front of the ball and they just aren’t catching on the launch monitor at their peak speed. 


I was wondering if that could be the case. Fastest part of the swing should be after the ball, so it would make sense.


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Current: 130mph

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Woods: :taylormade-small: 2007 Burner TP 3 wood and 5 wood

Irons:  :srixon-small: Z765 4-PW (1 degree flat) with KBS $-130 shafts

Wedges:  Vokey SM7 50/12/F, 54/10/S and 58/12/D

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Numbers were pretty solid today but I am still not seeing the translation to the course. My distance off the tee is actually down from last year, which for me hurts because that was one of the strongest portions of my game. I might have flipped a switch though with my irons because on my 16th hole the other day I scorched a 9 iron through the green. I dropped another ball and went PW and dropped it pin high. The distance was clearly my stock 9iron distance but with how it hit both shots I feel like that might be changing.

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54 minutes ago, tchat07 said:

Numbers were pretty solid today but I am still not seeing the translation to the course. My distance off the tee is actually down from last year, which for me hurts because that was one of the strongest portions of my game. I might have flipped a switch though with my irons because on my 16th hole the other day I scorched a 9 iron through the green. I dropped another ball and went PW and dropped it pin high. The distance was clearly my stock 9iron distance but with how it hit both shots I feel like that might be changing.

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I think one of the things we have to consider with on-the-course driving distance is the shaft/head/loft combo.  If we don't change it and are substantially faster, it could result in more spin which could lower distance.  Might need to go see a fitter for a tune up.

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Pre training max driver speed: 124mph

Current: 130mph

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Driver: :ping-small: G400 LST 8.5* with HZRDUS SMOKE 6.5 70g 

Woods: :taylormade-small: 2007 Burner TP 3 wood and 5 wood

Irons:  :srixon-small: Z765 4-PW (1 degree flat) with KBS $-130 shafts

Wedges:  Vokey SM7 50/12/F, 54/10/S and 58/12/D

Putter:  :ping-small: Sigma 2 Tyne 4, 32.5", 1* loft

Ball:  :srixon-small: Z-Star XV

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I think one of the things we have to consider with on-the-course driving distance is the shaft/head/loft combo.  If we don't change it and are substantially faster, it could result in more spin which could lower distance.  Might need to go see a fitter for a tune up.
100% agree. This is actually a question for the whole group, at what point in the program should I go get fitted? 1st jump, 2nd jump, at an extended plateau?

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12 minutes ago, tchat07 said:

100% agree. This is actually a question for the whole group, at what point in the program should I go get fitted? 1st jump, 2nd jump, at an extended plateau?

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Extended plateau for me. This for me is a longer goal. I plan on continuing this for a long time and using it to really push my game forward. 

Plus I am still driving the ball well and not seeing any negatives yet.

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SuperSpeed 2020 from 100-112 and climbing!

Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic Sub Zero - Set at 10* with Aldila Rogue Max 65 gram 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ weight back

               :ping-small: G410 Crossover - 2 and 4 iron

Irons:     :ping-small: i210 5-U w/ Nippon Modus 105 stiff (2018 Tester)

Wedge:  :ping-small: Glide 2.0 54* 58* w/ Nippon Modus 105 Stiff

Putter:   :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7 35* and oversized grip (2019 Tester)

Balls:      :srixon-small: Z Star

Other:     :Arccos: 360 (Caddie)

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A interesting article about back swing for any of those interested.

https://golf.com/instruction/driving/faster-backswing-driver-hit-ball-longer/

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 ⛳🛄 as of Sept 24, 2020

SuperSpeed 2020 from 100-112 and climbing!

Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic Sub Zero - Set at 10* with Aldila Rogue Max 65 gram 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ weight back

               :ping-small: G410 Crossover - 2 and 4 iron

Irons:     :ping-small: i210 5-U w/ Nippon Modus 105 stiff (2018 Tester)

Wedge:  :ping-small: Glide 2.0 54* 58* w/ Nippon Modus 105 Stiff

Putter:   :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7 35* and oversized grip (2019 Tester)

Balls:      :srixon-small: Z Star

Other:     :Arccos: 360 (Caddie)

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So I think @ChasingSratch is rubbing off on me. Was racing my wife yesterday at the football field while we let the kiddos run around on the turf and I pulled my groin! So unfortunately after hitting 110-112 consistently at the range earlier in the day I’m going to have to take a few week hiatus. The good new is I beat her in our 30 yard sprint prior to said injury (this is impressive cause she was an all-America long jumper in college). Glad to see everyone’s progress though! Keep it up! When I’m healed up I’m on to the third phase!

 

 

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100% agree. This is actually a question for the whole group, at what point in the program should I go get fitted? 1st jump, 2nd jump, at an extended plateau?

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I would do it at the extended plateau. Also keep in mind that dry swings/range speed takes longer to translate to the course. At least it did for me. There is a memory our body has and I think off the tee takes the longest translate. I tend to swing softer on the course to ensure the accuracy given I play on a lot of wooden/tight courses. I think if you keep at it you’ll see a big improvement in the overall game. @ChasingSratch is spit on those. I switched shafts to a x and was about 10-15 yard farther.


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:cobra-small:  Speedzone White 9* Driver

:cobra-small: F9 14.5* 3W

:titelist-small: 818 H1 19* Hybrid

:Hogan: UiHi 19*  *Official Tester*

:Sub70: 699 Pro Black 5-PW

:cobra-small: MIM 50*, 55*, 60*

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4 hours ago, Apolloshowl said:

Extended plateau for me. This for me is a longer goal. I plan on continuing this for a long time and using it to really push my game forward. 

Plus I am still driving the ball well and not seeing any negatives yet.

This.  I have every intention of a full year or more of SuperSpeed (and then some) and then revisiting my numbers at GolfTec.

This Honma test should be telling actually.  i worked it out with my GolfTec coach to come in and treat it like a driver fitting, but I'll actually just get numbers against my current gamer, other OEMs, etc., for purposes of the test.  But the way the timing will work out, it will be after 2 weeks into the Level 2 protocol...I'm hoping/praying to catch a jump that shows up in the fitting session.

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Driver: :honma:TR20 460, Vizard 60g Stiff

FW: :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff

Hybrids: :titelist-small: TS3 3 & 4H, Project X Evenflow Blue 85g Stiff

Driving Iron: :mizuno-small: MP-20 HMB 3i, UST Mamiya recoil ES 780 F3

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 4- GW, Project X 6.0

Wedges::vokey-small:SM7 54 S Grind, 58 M Grind

Putter: :EVNROLL: ER2B 

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So I think @ChasingSratch is rubbing off on me. Was racing my wife yesterday at the football field while we let the kiddos run around on the turf and I pulled my goin! So unfortunately after hitting 110-112 consistently at the range earlier in the day I’m going to have to take a few week hiatus. The good new is I beat her in our 30 yard sprint prior to said injury (this is impressive cause she was an all-America long jumper in college). Glad to see everyone’s progress though! Keep it up! When I’m healed up I’m on to the third phase!

 

 

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nooooooo!! As we age we have to be smarter and warm up before we do anything! A few years ago, some of my college students were talking trash so we lined it up for a race. I had them all beat by a long shot for the first 60 meters..... then my left glute seized up and then went by me. They said, “Dang Doc, you were lightning for a little while.” LOL

 

 

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:SuperSpeed: Training

Pre training max driver speed: 124mph

Current: 130mph

WITB:

Driver: :ping-small: G400 LST 8.5* with HZRDUS SMOKE 6.5 70g 

Woods: :taylormade-small: 2007 Burner TP 3 wood and 5 wood

Irons:  :srixon-small: Z765 4-PW (1 degree flat) with KBS $-130 shafts

Wedges:  Vokey SM7 50/12/F, 54/10/S and 58/12/D

Putter:  :ping-small: Sigma 2 Tyne 4, 32.5", 1* loft

Ball:  :srixon-small: Z-Star XV

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Just finished a Level 1 workout.  One more on Friday, then on to Level 2 baby!

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Driver: :honma:TR20 460, Vizard 60g Stiff

FW: :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff

Hybrids: :titelist-small: TS3 3 & 4H, Project X Evenflow Blue 85g Stiff

Driving Iron: :mizuno-small: MP-20 HMB 3i, UST Mamiya recoil ES 780 F3

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 4- GW, Project X 6.0

Wedges::vokey-small:SM7 54 S Grind, 58 M Grind

Putter: :EVNROLL: ER2B 

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Wanted to pose a question to testers using the super speed training system, is anyone experiencing an increasing in low back pain or any other joint related pathology since beginning the training protocols? I am a physical therapist and am interested in learning more about protocols and how I can apply it to my patients in the future

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Wanted to pose a question to testers using the super speed training system, is anyone experiencing an increasing in low back pain or any other joint related pathology since beginning the training protocols? I am a physical therapist and am interested in learning more about protocols and how I can apply it to my patients in the future

No low back pain, but do experience pain/stiffness in my fingers. Can’t specifically point to superspeed as I also make a lot
of swings doing testing for MGS,
But when I stopped last year I did get Some relief.
Based on suggestions in this thread I have switch to a baseball style grip for superspeed which has minimized the discomfort but not 100% eliminated.
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Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :cleveland-small: 588 54-14, 58-12
Putter:  :odyssey-small: Ten S      Backups:  :bobby-grace-1: 6330,   :EVNROLL: ER2.2,  

 

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34 minutes ago, RollingGreens said:

Wanted to pose a question to testers using the super speed training system, is anyone experiencing an increasing in low back pain or any other joint related pathology since beginning the training protocols? I am a physical therapist and am interested in learning more about protocols and how I can apply it to my patients in the future

Not an "official" MGS SuperSpeed tester, but if you look through this thread there are actually reports of the training helping to alleviate back pain and stiffness, and while I was skeptical of that it's actually had that benefit for me as well.  I suspect the training just increases overall mobility in that area, maybe?

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FW: :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff

Hybrids: :titelist-small: TS3 3 & 4H, Project X Evenflow Blue 85g Stiff

Driving Iron: :mizuno-small: MP-20 HMB 3i, UST Mamiya recoil ES 780 F3

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 4- GW, Project X 6.0

Wedges::vokey-small:SM7 54 S Grind, 58 M Grind

Putter: :EVNROLL: ER2B 

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Interesting reports of improvement. Unless the suspected areas of limitation have improved mobility vs causing the other regions that typically compensate to become overworked/stressed. I think it would be something that would be interesting to pay attention to over the long term. Large example I would be thinking of is Tiger Woods after his low back fusion and the continued stress with his high swing speeds

 

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:titelist-small: 818 H1 19deg Hybrid Fuji Atmos White

:mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal 4-GW Nippon Modus 120

:vokey-small: SM7 54 and 58deg Dynamic Gold

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1 hour ago, RollingGreens said:

Wanted to pose a question to testers using the super speed training system, is anyone experiencing an increasing in low back pain or any other joint related pathology since beginning the training protocols? I am a physical therapist and am interested in learning more about protocols and how I can apply it to my patients in the future

Nothing with my lower back and the only discomfort I've felt has been with off hand swings. The warm up before is very important and will help prevent any of those issues. 

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 ⛳🛄 as of Sept 24, 2020

SuperSpeed 2020 from 100-112 and climbing!

Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic Sub Zero - Set at 10* with Aldila Rogue Max 65 gram 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ weight back

               :ping-small: G410 Crossover - 2 and 4 iron

Irons:     :ping-small: i210 5-U w/ Nippon Modus 105 stiff (2018 Tester)

Wedge:  :ping-small: Glide 2.0 54* 58* w/ Nippon Modus 105 Stiff

Putter:   :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7 35* and oversized grip (2019 Tester)

Balls:      :srixon-small: Z Star

Other:     :Arccos: 360 (Caddie)

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2 minutes ago, RollingGreens said:

Interesting reports of improvement. Unless the suspected areas of limitation have improved mobility vs causing the other regions that typically compensate to become overworked/stressed. I think it would be something that would be interesting to pay attention to over the long term. Large example I would be thinking of is Tiger Woods after his low back fusion and the continued stress with his high swing speeds

 

You will know more then I will, but much with my last post I think it's essential to warm up the body before this and golf or really any other physical activity. 

Especially as we get older, I know over the past few years I definitely feel my body not quite being able to do what I use to and need that extra time to warm up for any activity I do. I can feel stresses on my body (especially knees and back) and work hard to be more active on daily life to keep up that mobility and flexibility. I've even gotten into a routine of doing their dynamic warm up on off days.

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 ⛳🛄 as of Sept 24, 2020

SuperSpeed 2020 from 100-112 and climbing!

Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic Sub Zero - Set at 10* with Aldila Rogue Max 65 gram 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ weight back

               :ping-small: G410 Crossover - 2 and 4 iron

Irons:     :ping-small: i210 5-U w/ Nippon Modus 105 stiff (2018 Tester)

Wedge:  :ping-small: Glide 2.0 54* 58* w/ Nippon Modus 105 Stiff

Putter:   :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7 35* and oversized grip (2019 Tester)

Balls:      :srixon-small: Z Star

Other:     :Arccos: 360 (Caddie)

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