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5 hours ago, BLW15 said:

Does anyone have a recommendation on how to combine the superspeed training protocol and the orange whip training? Would they compliment each other or somehow counteract? Would it be wise to use both on the same day or to alternate? I guess the overall goal would be to get the speed improvements from the superspped and the tempo/balance benefits of the orange whip.

I have an OW. For now, I am not doing anything off the course with it. I still use it at the course (in place of the red stick in the dynamic warmup). 

After I posted some videos over the last couple weeks, Kyle suggested (paraphrasing) that it looked like I was struggling to get weight transferred to my left leg. After some tests to see if it was hip or ankle tightness, he graciously sent me a few stretches to try to loosen my hips (left, in particular). Tonight, for some reason I could really feel myself not getting my left hip open fast enough. I have no issue transferring and rotating onto my right leg during left-handed swings and the LH speeds are catching up, even though they still feel awkward as all get out. I just started the hip stretches last week, so we'll see where it goes.

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A little disappointed total. Did a driver test after testing irons for
Most wanted. Swing speed was 105-108. The disappointment is because that is what I was swinging earlier this year during most wanted driver testing.

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A little disappointed total. Did a driver test after testing irons for
Most wanted. Swing speed was 105-108. The disappointment is because that is what I was swinging earlier this year during most wanted driver testing.


We all have our ceilings my friend. I hope yours gets north of 108. But I still love where you are at!


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50 minutes ago, revkev said:


We all have our ceilings my friend. I hope yours gets north of 108. But I still love where you are at!
 

 

I really can't complain about 108,  but I have seen the occasional 110/111 so I was hoping to see a few of those.  

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On 7/26/2020 at 3:39 PM, Jbmullin said:

Another week of testing wrapped up and continuing to see small gains through the protocol and on the course.

Speeds seem to be holding steady / stalled around 103mph with the yellow stick, and reaching 100 occasionally with the green.

I have started to become somewhat concerned with the poor form that is creeping into my swing on courses the last few weeks. Really trying not to overthink the drive but it’s getting tougher as I really want to mash the accelerator but that is leading to wayward shots. Just another wrinkle in the game.

Still keen and excited for the progress made up to date and think the real benefit will he in the winter for me when there is no golf for months.

Edit to add some data from Arccos, noticed in the blog post a lot of folks were asking about results or gains made from the super speed testing. 

Fairways hit is a significant improvement for me, even after complaining above that I am struggling with form. GIR is up from last year , I believe I was just under 25% , the leaving it short is something I keep focusing on. My round yesterday I hit 39% GIR but left 72% short. I keep trying to pull one more club.

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@Jbmullin great to see the progress! Some contact drill may help you to sort through the kinks. Give some of these a shot and let us know if they help.

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On 7/26/2020 at 10:23 PM, zrumble said:

It is so hard to not kick that left hip out and drop down under the plane! 
But PRGR made a liar out of me tonight on a quiet Sunday evening range session. 5 swings in a row of 116mph clubhead speed. Just got amped up a bit, got the heart rate up, then really threw the club back HARD. Contact was not good, but sustaining a new PB for a few minutes was worth it. 

@zrumble sometimes that is what it takes to break through to the next level. Then you prove to your body it can move that fast and the reigns come off. Really common with Olympic lifters where they will use breathing and other techniques to amp the nervous system to hit that personal best. Nice work!

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11 hours ago, BLW15 said:

Does anyone have a recommendation on how to combine the superspeed training protocol and the orange whip training? Would they compliment each other or somehow counteract? Would it be wise to use both on the same day or to alternate? I guess the overall goal would be to get the speed improvements from the superspped and the tempo/balance benefits of the orange whip.

I had a similar question/concern that I posted earlier in this thread.  I also have an OW and bought the SuperSpeed system; I’m currently 4 weeks in to Level 2.

As it seems you know, SuperSpeed and OW have different training objectives.  SuperSpeed wants to reprogram your brain for faster clubhead speed, while (the original) OW is a tempo training aid and NOT a speed training device.  I wanted to use OW while in SuperSpeed training primarily to tone down the potential for gross mishits resulting from newfound speed.

I’ll defer to the SuperSpeed folks that I suspect will chime in on this (they are great about paying attention to this thread and answering questions), but I would recommend using OW for tempo training only on “off” days from SuperSpeed, and even then only do the the one-handed OW drills and not the full swings.  (And, of course, continue to use it as a pre-round warm-up.). SuperSpeed  is reprogramming your brain...why throw another variable into the equation?

Just my two cents...

 

 

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12 hours ago, BLW15 said:

Does anyone have a recommendation on how to combine the superspeed training protocol and the orange whip training? Would they compliment each other or somehow counteract? Would it be wise to use both on the same day or to alternate? I guess the overall goal would be to get the speed improvements from the superspped and the tempo/balance benefits of the orange whip.

@BLW15 @Mike Lambert for the original orange whip we would recommend alternating days due to the weight of it. It is somewhat confusing to the nervous system if you do it on the same day as speed training due to the overall weight. We have seen it work best for those who have trouble separating the pelvis from the torso during transition. It forces the pelvis to lead which is the proper sequence. This in turn also can assist in creating better lag. It is promoted as tempo and rhythm but we often forget a good tempo and rhythm doesn’t necessarily have to do with a swing that looks smooth or slower. A fast looking swing may have a great tempo just with the parts moving quicker. 

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1 hour ago, cnosil said:

I really can't complain about 108,  but I have seen the occasional 110/111 so I was hoping to see a few of those.  

@cnosil can you post a down the line and face on of driver? Would love to see if we can help. Thanks!

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[mention=15174]cnosil[/mention] can you post a down the line and face on of driver? Would love to see if we can help. Thanks!
How exactly do you post a video? Do you have to upload to YouTube and create a link?

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Hey everybody! 
Sorry I’ve been MIA the last couple weeks! 
My wife gave birth to our baby boy a couple weeks ago, so we have been adjusting to that.

The training has been going well. I actually took last week off because the radar they sent me crapped out. It started throwing crazy numbers and just wasn’t accurate anymore. So I had to order another off amazon. It just came in, so I will be proceeding today. 
Week one of level two I got a start swing speed of 107, which is a 5-6 mph increase from level one. Again, my regiment number haven’t really increased, but my beginning swing speed has gone up. I’m seeing at the moment that my end of regiment swing speed is staying about the same also. I’ll end the regiment at about 107-110. About the same as level one. 
 

When it comes to my game, I’m hitting the ball really well. I’m getting great distance. I’m already seeing what I wanted out of this which is to have a nice pure smooth swing where I don’t feel like I’m over swinging or swinging faster to get longer distances. For example, I feel a good 85% 7 iron will carry 170ish. That is plenty of distance in my opinion. 
 

Im feeling good! 
Hope all is well with everybody!

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16 hours ago, cjeffs12 said:

Got my set back out for the first time in about 6 months. I am wanting to get back into it, and they recommend I pickup where I left off and add week. Also, has anyone tried the counterbalanced one as a stand alone trainer? B9ECF094-FAB6-4390-8DE8-356F824706BF.jpeg.3564bdcaabfe36e1f747acfba50c4972.jpeg

This is the radar I just bought off of amazon? Haven’t used it yet. Do you like it? 
I read that it may not be accurate without a ball. Is that true?

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14 minutes ago, MALyons31 said:

This is the radar I just bought off of amazon? Haven’t used it yet. Do you like it? 
I read that it may not be accurate without a ball. Is that true?

I have got some where it will flash the same number as the swing before, like it did not pick up the swing. Other than that when I use the red club its speed is much like my driver speed when I hit on a monitor. I only use it to track my superspeed swings, so that I know I am getting faster or not. For example, my 125 on this is 125, it may not be on a different LM, but as long as this is the one I am always using the next time I swing I am trying for 126. When I purchased it, it was 30 dollars on amazon, and it has worked for me, just by trying to swing faster than my last swing or last session. 

 

Congrats on the baby boy btw! 

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This is the radar I just bought off of amazon? Haven’t used it yet. Do you like it? 
I read that it may not be accurate without a ball. Is that true?

I have got some where it will flash the same number as the swing before, like it did not pick up the swing.


First congrats on the new baby.

That is the radar that was originally used for the superspeed protocol and is what I use. It doesn’t require a ball.

When the number flashes it
Means the speed was identical to the prior swing. If you match it a third time it will stop blinking.
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52 minutes ago, MALyons31 said:

Hey everybody! 
Sorry I’ve been MIA the last couple weeks! 
My wife gave birth to our baby boy a couple weeks ago, so we have been adjusting to that.

Congrats!

Now you can join @jlukes in doing the protocols sleep-deprived!

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Hey everybody! 

Sorry I’ve been MIA the last couple weeks! 

My wife gave birth to our baby boy a couple weeks ago, so we have been adjusting to that.

The training has been going well. I actually took last week off because the radar they sent me crapped out. It started throwing crazy numbers and just wasn’t accurate anymore. So I had to order another off amazon. It just came in, so I will be proceeding today. 

Week one of level two I got a start swing speed of 107, which is a 5-6 mph increase from level one. Again, my regiment number haven’t really increased, but my beginning swing speed has gone up. I’m seeing at the moment that my end of regiment swing speed is staying about the same also. I’ll end the regiment at about 107-110. About the same as level one. 

 

When it comes to my game, I’m hitting the ball really well. I’m getting great distance. I’m already seeing what I wanted out of this which is to have a nice pure smooth swing where I don’t feel like I’m over swinging or swinging faster to get longer distances. For example, I feel a good 85% 7 iron will carry 170ish. That is plenty of distance in my opinion. 

 

Im feeling good! 

Hope all is well with everybody!

Congrats!

That's the same radar that I use and like said before I am not basing any metrics off the speed just whether or not its improving with what I am currently doing.

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Finished up Level 2 week 1 today. My wife and I left town for a few days last week to celebrate our 10yr anniversary, so I had delayed my last day of week 1.

 

I felt really fast today. Sticks slicing through the air like ninja throwing stars. No records on the PRGR, but felt fast.

 

We’ve come to the conclusion that I am not going to worry about what the numbers say and just focus on GC Quad post testing for the future. In theory, my dry driver swings on PRGR should be faster than hitting a ball, but for whatever reason I can’t seem to consistently get above 120mph, even though that is slower than my slowest speed on GC Quad.

 

It will be fun to see if I can get another 2-3mph out of this body by the end of this Level 2 protocol.

 

The double step swings are quite fun. You really get the feel of momentum.

 

Review video coming soon!

 

 

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2 minutes ago, ChasingScratch said:

Finished up Level 2 week 1 today. My wife and I left town for a few days last week to celebrate our 10yr anniversary, so I had delayed my last day of week 1.

 

I felt really fast today. Sticks slicing through the air like ninja throwing stars. No records on the PRGR, but felt fast.

 

We’ve come to the conclusion that I am not going to worry about what the numbers say and just focus on GC Quad post testing for the future. In theory, my dry driver swings on PRGR should be faster than hitting a ball, but for whatever reason I can’t seem to consistently get above 120mph, even though that is slower than my slowest speed on GC Quad.

 

It will be fun to see if I can get another 2-3mph out of this body by the end of this Level 2 protocol.

 

The double step swings are quite fun. You really get the feel of momentum.

 

Review video coming soon!

 

 

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Is your back holding up okay?

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