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10 hours ago, ChasingScratch said:


Good point. In this case I’m discussing prime athletic explosive capacity (speed, explosiveness, etc.). It’s pretty well established that this peak ends around 25-26yrs (definitely on the downhill at 30) for human males.

The good thing about golf is that it doesn’t not solely rely on athleticism (as you pointed out). Short game and putting are the great equalizers. It is very much a skill sport.
 

 

 

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Pre training max driver speed: 124mph

Current: 130mph

WITB:

Driver: :ping-small: G400 LST 8.5* with HZRDUS SMOKE 6.5 70g 

Woods: :taylormade-small: 2007 Burner TP 3 wood and 5 wood

Irons:  :srixon-small: Z765 4-PW (1 degree flat) with KBS $-130 shafts

Wedges:  Vokey SM7 50/12/F, 54/10/S and 58/12/D

Putter:  :ping-small: Sigma 2 Tyne 4, 32.5", 1* loft

Ball:  :srixon-small: Z-Star XV

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:SuperSpeed: Training

Pre training max driver speed: 124mph

Current: 130mph

WITB:

Driver: :ping-small: G400 LST 8.5* with HZRDUS SMOKE 6.5 70g 

Woods: :taylormade-small: 2007 Burner TP 3 wood and 5 wood

Irons:  :srixon-small: Z765 4-PW (1 degree flat) with KBS $-130 shafts

Wedges:  Vokey SM7 50/12/F, 54/10/S and 58/12/D

Putter:  :ping-small: Sigma 2 Tyne 4, 32.5", 1* loft

Ball:  :srixon-small: Z-Star XV

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G30 6-PW -  Aerotech FT 500 shafts

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21 hours ago, ChasingScratch said:

Here is something we should all be reminded of.  According to the @SuperSpeed Golf peaks/plateaus graph, we most likely will not see any major jumps again until the 4th-6th months of training (if I'm interpreting the graph correctly)...

Definitely a good reminder!  I definitely plateaued after week 2 of the 1st protocol (I'm on week 5 of the 2nd level now) and even ticked down a little the past 3 weeks or so and am just a little slower than I was at the same point my first time through.  Since I didn't quit for the summer this year, looking forward to a bump in another, ohh...14 weeks or so 😉 

Side benefit of this program:  good opportunity to work on perseverance... 

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1 hour ago, ChasingScratch said:

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I don't think I actually get injured more often at my age, but I'll be damned if recovery time hasn't about tripled or quadrupled.

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Driver: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 9.5* Recoil 460ES cut to 45"
3W: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 15* Recoil 460ES
3H, 4H: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES
4-PW:  :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105
AW: :mizuno-small:S5 52*
SW: :cleveland-small: 588
LW: :callaway-small: MD3
Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab Marxman
Bag: :bridgestone-small: Tour B Stand Bag
Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star
Pushcart: BigMax iQ+

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Starting Driver Speed on PRGR Monitor: 102 mph

Final Driver Speed (end of Level 2): 120 mph

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I have found others progress interesting compared to mine. Whether it was a big jump to start or a quicker plateau and so on. I found mine more gradual, in part it's because I am also learning techniques on simply swinging faster which may be in part why I see small gains here and there. 

I didn't notice a big sustainable jump to start off, but instead saw it close to week 4 I believe. 

I have also worked hard on getting small but personal bests with green in particular. My hope is that at some point I see 140. I've done 137 so it's not that far away!

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SWING SPEED- 100

Driver:   :callaway-small: Epic Sub Zero - Set at 10* with Aldila Rogue Max 65 gram 

Wood:    :cobra-small: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ weight back

               :ping-small: G410 Crossover - 2 and 4 iron

Irons:     :ping-small: i210 5-U w/ Nippon Modus 105 stiff (2018 Tester)

Wedge:  :ping-small: Glide 2.0 54* 58* w/ Nippon Modus 105 Stiff

Putter:   :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7 35* and oversized grip (2019 Tester)

Balls:      :srixon-small: Z Star

Other:     :Arccos: 360 (Caddie)

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On 8/9/2020 at 2:04 PM, Apolloshowl said:

This is a quick sample of some lefty and righty swings from this evening's session. It was incredibly hot out today and waiting for it to cool off before I got to them.

I did this video after I completed the protocol and used the blue stick. 

Don't exactly remember the numbers, but left handed swings were 115 range and second right handed swing was 113. 

I have both the swing radar and PRGR set up, although I only base my numbers off the swing radar as that's what I started my protocols with. I got the PRGR after and use it as a back up and see how similar they are. Generally they are within 1 mph sometimes a little more, but it is reassuring to see them so close.

Hope you all enjoy and I'll try to do more videos in the coming days with other views. 

@Apolloshowl thanks for the video here! This is important for everyone to see. Watch the first swing left handed and first swing right handed. The eyes want to see the number right away so the neck and spine stop rotating all the way in the follow through. Make sure to let the neck and spine fully rotate to a complete finish. Almost to the point where you could get off balance. Watch how the long drive pros finish. Then you can check he number after. Definitely think you have more in the tank if you feel a little more wild while swinging.

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On 8/10/2020 at 1:02 PM, jlukes said:

I've noticed a much higher flight than normal on the golf course from my driver over the last few rounds and I finally got on a launch monitor over the weekend.  It was only a GC2 so I could not get club information, but it confirmed that my launch and spin are up due to my increased spin.

After trading some emails with my fitter and instructor, I scored a G410 LST head to try (currently gaming a G410 Plus head).  The more forward CG of the LST should help lower my spin and launch into a better window with my new speed.  Excited to get it on the course.

Really interesting webinar from SuperSpeed on how new speed impacts club fitting.  Sounds about right based on what has happened with me!

https://superspeedgolf.com/blogs/news/webinar-8-how-new-speed-gains-affect-club-fitting

@jlukes spot on with your assessment here. More speed often equals more spin. Glad you watched that webinar. There are so many club fitting myths perpetuated in the golf industry. Hopefully that information helps everyone. 

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5 minutes ago, SuperSpeed Golf said:

@Apolloshowl thanks for the video here! This is important for everyone to see. Watch the first swing left handed and first swing right handed. The eyes want to see the number right away so the neck and spine stop rotating all the way in the follow through. Make sure to let the neck and spine fully rotate to a complete finish. Almost to the point where you could get off balance. Watch how the long drive pros finish. Then you can check he number after. Definitely think you have more in the tank if you feel a little more wild while swinging.

Thanks for mentioning that, I know I'm guilty of looking at the swing radar, probably more than I realize.  Hadn't thought much about it until now.

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Guilty as charged on the radar thing - but I’ve learned to swing through and look later.

Also my experience is that plateau means regression followed by jump. Both times through SuperSpeed I’ve had quick jump, on course struggle, improved ball striking and speed, training speed regression (not actual though), second jump, on course struggle, further improved ball striking and distance, small training speed regression not actual when hitting shots

Same patter both times

I’m finding right now that I’m launching driver really high. I will get that checked when I go back to my fitter for the D7 forged test.

I think everyone is different in regards to
the way the training works.


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Since @ChasingScratch posted the @SuperSpeed Golf chart, I've been doing some thinking....

Perhaps SuperSpeed can chime in (and anyone else who may have an idea, of course).

My recollection was the second jump typically happened late in the second protocol. Since that was clearly wrong and it's more like late third/early fourth protocol (I'll be starting level 3 next week), what is going on with me? Is it possible that my swing was so out of whack mechanically that I'm still experiencing the first jump and it's just taking me longer to sort out the mechanical components required to go faster? What I had interpreted as the plateau seemed more like the regression that @revkev mentioned, so I had assumed the second jump was here. Here is an up-to-date chart for my driver speeds since the beginning. Since there have been some peaks and valleys, this data is a 5-session moving average to try to smooth out some of the noise. For the last 3-5 weeks, there has been a pretty steady climb. Is it possible I am at the second jump a little early? I suppose a third alternative is that things have finally settled down some so this is really just the first plateau?

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Here is the raw data, before averaging.

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Driver: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 9.5* Recoil 460ES cut to 45"
3W: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 15* Recoil 460ES
3H, 4H: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES
4-PW:  :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105
AW: :mizuno-small:S5 52*
SW: :cleveland-small: 588
LW: :callaway-small: MD3
Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab Marxman
Bag: :bridgestone-small: Tour B Stand Bag
Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star
Pushcart: BigMax iQ+

:SuperSpeed: Tester
Starting Driver Speed on PRGR Monitor: 102 mph

Final Driver Speed (end of Level 2): 120 mph

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Since [mention=86896]ChasingScratch[/mention] posted the [mention=84467]SuperSpeed Golf[/mention] chart, I've been doing some thinking....
Perhaps SuperSpeed can chime in (and anyone else who may have an idea, of course).
My recollection was the second jump typically happened late in the second protocol. Since that was clearly wrong and it's more like late third/early fourth protocol (I'll be starting level 3 next week), what is going on with me? Is it possible that my swing was so out of whack mechanically that I'm still experiencing the first jump and it's just taking me longer to sort out the mechanical components required to go faster? What I had interpreted as the plateau seemed more like the regression that [mention=16651]revkev[/mention] mentioned, so I had assumed the second jump was here. Here is an up-to-date chart for my driver speeds since the beginning. Since there have been some peaks and valleys, this data is a 5-session moving average to try to smooth out some of the noise. For the last 3-5 weeks, there has been a pretty steady climb. Is it possible I am at the second jump a little early? I suppose a third alternative is that things have finally settled down some so this is really just the first plateau?
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Here is the raw data, before averaging.
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Could very well be the case. If your kinematic sequence was poor to begin with and has gotten better with all the swings and drills, everything else improves along with it. Technique is one of the categories where speed can increase (as per the pyramid from the SuperSpeed presentation they did with us if I’m remembering correctly).


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:SuperSpeed: Training

Pre training max driver speed: 124mph

Current: 130mph

WITB:

Driver: :ping-small: G400 LST 8.5* with HZRDUS SMOKE 6.5 70g 

Woods: :taylormade-small: 2007 Burner TP 3 wood and 5 wood

Irons:  :srixon-small: Z765 4-PW (1 degree flat) with KBS $-130 shafts

Wedges:  Vokey SM7 50/12/F, 54/10/S and 58/12/D

Putter:  :ping-small: Sigma 2 Tyne 4, 32.5", 1* loft

Ball:  :srixon-small: Z-Star XV

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13 hours ago, ChasingScratch said:

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Ain’t that the truth!

Helped move a full sized trampoline from one yard to another, then jumped on a bit with the grandkids.  Yep, now I can barely walk.  Knees are sore 😞

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My main frustration right now is that I'm getting driver and speed stick readings (all of them) down where I started the protocol.  Not where I should be during a plateau of the "new normal" for my gains that I made from Level 1.  
For example, this 3rd week of Level 2, the driver swings at the end of the sessions have maxed at 120 (while hitting 119 several times as well). From my pre-test, I was hitting 119 over and over and then maxed one time with 124mph.
Same for the green, blue, and red sticks.  I'm getting readings of 130/131 with green, 120 with blue, and 117-119 with red (all what they were during the first few protocols in Level 1). 
Here is the chart of each day so far:
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I'm going to see if going back to doing massive cut path swings with the sticks changes the readings.  I remember from the end of Level 1 that a cut path swing was reading higher.  Looking at my data, it looks like I haven't gained any speed with the sticks or driver since the start, but again, GC Quad says otherwise.
Stay the course man stay the course!

You’re on the right track, there is also the factor of neuro fatigue. Might want to step back from the training, rest, then get back after it! Also remember the true goal, what happens on the course. All these numbers are dust if you’re seeing the improvement once you get to the course! Yesterday I played and I was working on slowing the back swing, keeping my balance, and just making my fairway finder swing and every drive was over 250. My average drive is 235 so that’s the importance of the training is to get your in control swing on the course as fast as your prior all out swing.


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3-Wood- Cobra F9

Utility Iron- Ping G Crossover 3

Utility Iron- Ping G Crossover 4

Irons- Cobra F8 One Length 5-G

Wedges- TM Milled grind 54* and 58*

Putter- Tommy Armour Impact No3 CB

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Level 2 Week 3 Summary video now live:

 

In the near future, I will be experimenting with a SwingSpeed radar in conjunction with the PRGR to see if there are any differences.

Also hoping to do a mid-Level 2 GC Quad test to see if I'm regressing or if the radar just isn't reading me well.

Stay tuned!

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:SuperSpeed: Training

Pre training max driver speed: 124mph

Current: 130mph

WITB:

Driver: :ping-small: G400 LST 8.5* with HZRDUS SMOKE 6.5 70g 

Woods: :taylormade-small: 2007 Burner TP 3 wood and 5 wood

Irons:  :srixon-small: Z765 4-PW (1 degree flat) with KBS $-130 shafts

Wedges:  Vokey SM7 50/12/F, 54/10/S and 58/12/D

Putter:  :ping-small: Sigma 2 Tyne 4, 32.5", 1* loft

Ball:  :srixon-small: Z-Star XV

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I had to show this:

I was fast tonight. Tied fastest dominant with green, blue and red. Fastest ever non dominant red and then what you see up top left handed (non dominant) green. My prior record was 117.

I’m anxious to see how that translates to the range tomorrow and the course on Sunday afternoon.


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On 8/12/2020 at 11:14 AM, ChasingScratch said:

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Great post!

 

Speaking of injuries, has anyone had some persistent lower back pain start while using the Super Speed sticks?

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Great post!
 
Speaking of injuries, has anyone had some persistent lower back pain start while using the Super Speed sticks?



I had them the first time around but not this time. I’m very careful with my warm ups and doing drills properly.

I’ve also discovered CBD cream for my elbow


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Ping G410 5-9 wood

G30 6-PW -  Aerotech FT 500 shafts

SCOR 48,52,56,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

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5 hours ago, TaketheCannoli said:

Great post!

 

Speaking of injuries, has anyone had some persistent lower back pain start while using the Super Speed sticks?

I'm actually the opposite. For the last five-ish years my lower back has been a bit of a mess. I believe the combination of the dynamic warmup and protocols have very beneficial for my particular issue. Obviously your mileage may vary.

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3W: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 15* Recoil 460ES
3H, 4H: :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES
4-PW:  :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105
AW: :mizuno-small:S5 52*
SW: :cleveland-small: 588
LW: :callaway-small: MD3
Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab Marxman
Bag: :bridgestone-small: Tour B Stand Bag
Ball: :srixon-small: Z-Star
Pushcart: BigMax iQ+

:SuperSpeed: Tester
Starting Driver Speed on PRGR Monitor: 102 mph

Final Driver Speed (end of Level 2): 120 mph

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