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Interesting effect the weather apparently has. High 50's in Akron this evening. Felt pretty good and felt like decent speed, but I assume it took forever to warm up. Early speeds were ~10 mph below normal, but ended up being around usual speeds. Before driver speeds were close to what I saw the second session. Something to keep in mind for the cooler climates if you have to do it outside.

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We bought a place fairly close to you, at King's Point which is on the west side of Sun City Center and just off 75.

 

Looking forward to playing with you guys in your March outing provided you don't mind a high handicapper [emoji51]. p.s. I do like to play fast.

 

Now comes the challenging part of managing my wife's expectations on changes to the place, buying furniture and moving some of our excess stuff down here.

 

 

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We bought a place fairly close to you, at King's Point which is on the west side of Sun City Center and just off 75.
 
Looking forward to playing with you guys in your March outing provided you don't mind a high handicapper [emoji51]. p.s. I do like to play fast.
 
Now comes the challenging part of managing my wife's expectations on changes to the place, buying furniture and moving some of our excess stuff down here.
 
 
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That’s less than an hour from me. We will have to get together before March - we’ve got several
MGS guys in the Tampa Bay area.

Safe travels down.


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Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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So I did my maintenance work out today. A coworker challenged me to add 22 push ups to any work out that I do in October for Veteran suicide awareness month. I do a regular workout twice a week that includes a number of push ups so no problem, right.

These swings must engage the same muscle group because I struggled to do 22 at the end of my session. Did them though. :)


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Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

Edison Wedges 54 and 59 KBS Tour Graphite 80's

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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That’s less than an hour from me. We will have to get together before March - we’ve got several
MGS guys in the Tampa Bay area.

Safe travels down.


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Cool! We're headed back to Ohio Saturday and probably won't be down officially til right after Thanksgiving (due date for our first grandchild). Will keep you posted.


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Cobra King F-9  5 wood
:ping-small:  410  Hybrids 22*, 26*

Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts 

:titelist-small: SM7 54* Wedge

:ping-small: Glide 3.0  60* Wedge

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Golf Balls: Snell MTB-X 

2020 Official Tester :SuperSpeed: Beginning Driver Speed  - 78

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A theoretical question especially for those in 2 categories: slower swing speed and higher ss numbers with the yellow or green sticks.

 

Since the SS is higher for those lighter sticks, wouldn't it make a difference in going to lighter shafts and drivers? Yes I know the common answer is go get fit - which I have been, but just curious.

 

 

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:ping-small: G410 SFT driver 

Cobra King F-9  5 wood
:ping-small:  410  Hybrids 22*, 26*

Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts 

:titelist-small: SM7 54* Wedge

:ping-small: Glide 3.0  60* Wedge

:odyssey-small: O Works putter
:918457628_PrecisionPro:NX9-HD

:CaddyTek: - 4 Wheel 
:footjoy-small: - too many shoes to list and so many to buy

:1590477705_SunMountain: And  BAG Boy

Golf Balls: Snell MTB-X 

2020 Official Tester :SuperSpeed: Beginning Driver Speed  - 78

2019 Official Tester :ping-small:  410 Driver

2018 Official Tester :wilson-small: C300

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@MaxEntropy, quick question...I've scanned back through several pages and have read your review, so if I am asking something you already answered somewhere then my apologies, but I tried!  Regarding the Advanced Sprint Protocol, what was it about your swing, your training, progress, or whatever that led @SuperSpeed Golfto recommend that particular protocol?

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1 hour ago, Getoffmylawn said:

@MaxEntropy, quick question...I've scanned back through several pages and have read your review, so if I am asking something you already answered somewhere then my apologies, but I tried!  Regarding the Advanced Sprint Protocol, what was it about your swing, your training, progress, or whatever that led @SuperSpeed Golfto recommend that particular protocol?

There are "tests" you can do to see if the advanced protocols would be of any help. If you are on the overspeed training protocol page, there are three advanced speed development protocols. If you click on any of them, there is a description of an easy test to see if they might be of assistance. I honestly don't even remember any more why they recommended I do the tests - perhaps I had asked a question about sequencing/mechanics of my swing? I may have to see if I can find it again.

https://superspeedgolf.com/pages/overspeed-training-protocols

Level one is for using the ground better, but I passed that test (basically hit five balls standing in the exact same spot and see if you have torn up the turf at all). Level two is for rotational sequencing and the test is to hit ball with a half swing while measuring swing speed. If it is within 7% of full swing, you are good. I was around 10%. The last one is about generating lag - the test is to pause a video as close as you can get to the top, and draw/measure the angle between wrists and shaft. Advance to just as downswing is starting (next frame unless you are Hideki) and repeat - if you have proper lag, the angle should get a bit smaller in the second frame. My angle was the same. They recommended level 3 first, I assume because I was pretty close to on point with the half swing.

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2 minutes ago, MaxEntropy said:

There are "tests" you can do to see if the advanced protocols would be of any help. If you are on the overspeed training protocol page, there are three advanced speed development protocols. If you click on any of them, there is a description of an easy test to see if they might be of assistance. I honestly don't even remember any more why they recommended I do the tests - perhaps I had asked a question about sequencing/mechanics of my swing? I may have to see if I can find it again.

https://superspeedgolf.com/pages/overspeed-training-protocols

Level one is for using the ground better, but I passed that test (basically hit five balls standing in the exact same spot and see if you have torn up the turf at all). Level two is for rotational sequencing and the test is to hit ball with a half swing while measuring swing speed. If it is within 7% of full swing, you are good. I was around 10%. The last one is about generating lag - the test is to pause a video as close as you can get to the top, and draw/measure the angle between wrists and shaft. Advance to just as downswing is starting (next frame unless you are Hideki) and repeat - if you have proper lag, the angle should get a bit smaller in the second frame. My angle was the same. They recommended level 3 first, I assume because I was pretty close to on point with the half swing.

Perfect, thanks.  I've seen the tests on the website but have stayed on the "straight and narrow" of the standard protocols.  Now that I'm almost halfway through Level 3 though I may look at adding one of these in (the right one) if only for the sake of breaking up the monotony.  I'll do the tests but I'd be surprised if it isn't Level 3...when I'm going bad I tend to throw the clubhead at the ball like that.

Thanks again.

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13 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Perfect, thanks.  I've seen the tests on the website but have stayed on the "straight and narrow" of the standard protocols.  Now that I'm almost halfway through Level 3 though I may look at adding one of these in (the right one) if only for the sake of breaking up the monotony.  I'll do the tests but I'd be surprised if it isn't Level 3...when I'm going bad I tend to throw the clubhead at the ball like that.

Thanks again.

I started mixing in the other protocol when I started Level 3 and I agree it does break up the monotony a bit. The ASD3 is also nice, since it's a sprint protocol, I get done with it really quick. The dynamic warmup takes far longer than the swings themselves.

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4-AW:  :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105
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My final(ish) review is live.

 Granted I'm not officially done with Level 2, but my broken toe is still healing and I'm not comfortable resuming just yet.  Thanks again to MGS for allowing me the opportunity to be a part of this wonderful opportunity.  I will stay involved in the thread and continue updating as I resume training!

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On 10/1/2020 at 4:14 PM, revkev said:

So I did my maintenance work out today. A coworker challenged me to add 22 push ups to any work out that I do in October for Veteran suicide awareness month. I do a regular workout twice a week that includes a number of push ups so no problem, right.

These swings must engage the same muscle group because I struggled to do 22 at the end of my session. Did them though. 🙂


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Congrats! That's an impressive effort for a great cause!

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It looks like a good day to play golf!

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On 10/1/2020 at 8:55 AM, revkev said:

 


That’s less than an hour from me. We will have to get together before March - we’ve got several
MGS guys in the Tampa Bay area.

Safe travels down.


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We also head to Florida for the winter. We're a little south of Ft. Myers in Bonita Springs. If you'd be willing to let an old hacker join, I'd love to play if possible.

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It looks like a good day to play golf!

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Just got my own set of Super Speed clubs and have started the protocols. I have enjoyed all the reviews on here and it's what encouraged me to go for it. I have a question though for @SuperSpeed Golf or anyone else if they have the PRGR monitor for there speed measurements. I have a had a swing with the sticks where the monitor picks up a "ball" speed when the obviously isn't one. Is this likely it picked up something moving ahead of me or a missread on the club and both speeds are from the club head. Just want to know what speed I should put in for a club when that happens. 

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11 hours ago, TaketheCannoli said:

We also head to Florida for the winter. We're a little south of Ft. Myers in Bonita Springs. If you'd be willing to let an old hacker join, I'd love to play if possible.

I'll be in Bonita in March. Can I interest you in a round at San Carlos?

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4 hours ago, ejgaudette said:

Just got my own set of Super Speed clubs and have started the protocols. I have enjoyed all the reviews on here and it's what encouraged me to go for it. I have a question though for @SuperSpeed Golf or anyone else if they have the PRGR monitor for there speed measurements. I have a had a swing with the sticks where the monitor picks up a "ball" speed when the obviously isn't one. Is this likely it picked up something moving ahead of me or a missread on the club and both speeds are from the club head. Just want to know what speed I should put in for a club when that happens. 

I have never been able to figure out the root cause of the false ball readings, but it seems like it might be related to how close to the ground the club passes in relation to how I have the radar angled. I have noticed, on many occasions, what shows up as the ball speed for me is pretty close to what the club speed should be.

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4-AW:  :bridgestone-small: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105
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13 minutes ago, MaxEntropy said:

I have never been able to figure out the root cause of the false ball readings, but it seems like it might be related to how close to the ground the club passes in relation to how I have the radar angled. I have noticed, on many occasions, what shows up as the ball speed for me is pretty close to what the club speed should be.

I mean that's what I want to believe as they are always higher and will show some nice progress if I can count those as club speeds. This seems to happen on my highest swing speed. Thanks for the feedback I had a feeling it might have to do with the radar angle and it catching my swing on the way down then passing a bit too low (the radar might be sitting up a bit) then picking it back up on the upswing right about where I would hit a ball. Of course this could all be wishful thinking.

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14 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

I mean that's what I want to believe as they are always higher and will show some nice progress if I can count those as club speeds.

FWIW, when I was in the "official" portion of the review, I never used any number when it showed a ball speed, but now that I am past it, I will use it if it is within 1-2 mph of the swing just before or just after.

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1 minute ago, MaxEntropy said:

FWIW, when I was in the "official" portion of the review, I never used any number when it showed a ball speed, but now that I am past it, I will use it if it is within 1-2 mph of the swing just before or just after.

Makes sense some of them have seemed way off but others have been close.

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:titelist-small: 816 H1 18° Fujikura Speeder HB 8.8 Stiff | :titelist-small: 816 H1 21° Mitsubishi Diamana S+ Blue 70 Stiff

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