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Does anyone make an iron with a very low center of gravity but a thin sole? 

14 of the following:

Ping G400 Max

Cobra King F9 Speedback 3 wood

Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood

Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees

Taylormade M4 5 hybrid

Callaway Mavrik Max 6-GW

PXG 0211 5-GW

PXG 0211 sand wedge bent to 53 degrees

Maltby M Series+ 54 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

Ping Sigma 2 Anser

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What is your definition of very low?  The Maltby Playability Factor measurements have data for CoG.  They don't measure sole width though.

Quite a few of the older players irons have low COG and thin sole. 

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I'm thinking vcog below 0.7.  The lower the better.

14 of the following:

Ping G400 Max

Cobra King F9 Speedback 3 wood

Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood

Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees

Taylormade M4 5 hybrid

Callaway Mavrik Max 6-GW

PXG 0211 5-GW

PXG 0211 sand wedge bent to 53 degrees

Maltby M Series+ 54 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

Ping Sigma 2 Anser

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This is a tough one. Maybe the ‘94 Hogan Apex channel backs?

  • TaylorMade SIM2 8* Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 60X
  • TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X
  • Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S
  • Ben Hogan PTx Combo Nippon Modus 3 120S
  • Vokey SM8 50 Nippon Modus 3 120s
  • TaylorMade MG2 TW 56 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120S
  • Scotty Cameron Phantom X 11.5
  • TaylorMade TP5

 

Western, NY

5.7 Index

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Define thin sole.  Like blades?  Or some game improvement clubs.

Not much for newer irons.  From circa 2006 or so...

Ping S58
Adams Idea Pro

I have Macgregor VIP 1025M and M685 irons which are close to 0.7

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By thin sole, I mean in the neighborhood of the Ping i210's or thinner.  I just read this interview with the president of Miura:

https://golf.com/gear/irons/shinei-miura-tiger-woods-miura-irons/?utm_campaign=forecast&utm_source=golf.com&utm_medium=email&utm_content={date(&utm_term=Forecast Newsletter

Reading between the lines, he seems to have been taught that wide soles are problematic (I may just be projecting...).  I think the only way to do what I'm thinking would be to make the sole out of a very heavy metal, perhaps tungsten, that is then welded to the rest of the clubhead. 

14 of the following:

Ping G400 Max

Cobra King F9 Speedback 3 wood

Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood

Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees

Taylormade M4 5 hybrid

Callaway Mavrik Max 6-GW

PXG 0211 5-GW

PXG 0211 sand wedge bent to 53 degrees

Maltby M Series+ 54 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

Ping Sigma 2 Anser

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Relatively wider soles like a G710 is designed for forgiveness.  If you’re a 13 you shouldn’t be looking towards extremes of width and head size.  There are a lot of clubs that fit in the middle that will accommodate a large variety of swings  

One of my biggest peeves is that golfers are convinced far too often that certain clubs are problematic or conversely, the bees knees because of an article they’ve read or a video they’ve watched.  If you’re a 13 handicap, you’re going to want to swing as many clubs as you can to see which work best.

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  • TaylorMade SIM2 8* Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 60X
  • TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X
  • Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S
  • Ben Hogan PTx Combo Nippon Modus 3 120S
  • Vokey SM8 50 Nippon Modus 3 120s
  • TaylorMade MG2 TW 56 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120S
  • Scotty Cameron Phantom X 11.5
  • TaylorMade TP5

 

Western, NY

5.7 Index

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5 hours ago, bens197 said:

Relatively wider soles like a G710 is designed for forgiveness.  If you’re a 13 you shouldn’t be looking towards extremes of width and head size.  There are a lot of clubs that fit in the middle that will accommodate a large variety of swings  

One of my biggest peeves is that golfers are convinced far too often that certain clubs are problematic or conversely, the bees knees because of an article they’ve read or a video they’ve watched.  If you’re a 13 handicap, you’re going to want to swing as many clubs as you can to see which work best.

I understand your pet peeve, but I've owned just about every type of iron imaginable:  Wilson Staff FG17 (surprisingly forgiving in 6 - W), original Big Berthas, X-20's, 3 different generations of Ping G models, Ping i15's, Titleist 718 AP1's,  Mizuno MP-18 SC, Mizuno HMB, Hogan Apex Plus (the shallow cavity one), etc.  I've found I get a lot better turf interaction with thin soled irons but I could really use a higher trajectory and more forgiveness than is found in most thin soled irons.  The most forgiving irons I've found for my swing are the X-20's but the soles in the short irons, in particular, are a little wide.

14 of the following:

Ping G400 Max

Cobra King F9 Speedback 3 wood

Callaway Big Bertha Heavenwood

Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees

Taylormade M4 5 hybrid

Callaway Mavrik Max 6-GW

PXG 0211 5-GW

PXG 0211 sand wedge bent to 53 degrees

Maltby M Series+ 54 degree

Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree

Ping Sigma 2 Anser

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I understand your pet peeve, but I've owned just about every type of iron imaginable:  Wilson Staff FG17 (surprisingly forgiving in 6 - W), original Big Berthas, X-20's, 3 different generations of Ping G models, Ping i15's, Titleist 718 AP1's,  Mizuno MP-18 SC, Mizuno HMB, Hogan Apex Plus (the shallow cavity one), etc.  I've found I get a lot better turf interaction with thin soled irons but I could really use a higher trajectory and more forgiveness than is found in most thin soled irons.  The most forgiving irons I've found for my swing are the X-20's but the soles in the short irons, in particular, are a little wide.

My peeve has to do with countless golfers being swayed by teachers or online salesmen.

And while I don’t doubt your success, this information would have been much more helpful from the outset.

I hope you find what you’re looking for!
  • TaylorMade SIM2 8* Mitsubishi Tensei 1K White 60X
  • TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X
  • Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S
  • Ben Hogan PTx Combo Nippon Modus 3 120S
  • Vokey SM8 50 Nippon Modus 3 120s
  • TaylorMade MG2 TW 56 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120S
  • Scotty Cameron Phantom X 11.5
  • TaylorMade TP5

 

Western, NY

5.7 Index

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