Hook DeLoft Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Does anyone make an iron with a very low center of gravity but a thin sole? Quote 14 of the following: Ping G430 Max 10.5 degree Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Mizuno 923 JPX HM HL 6-GW Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dthrog00 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 What is your definition of very low? The Maltby Playability Factor measurements have data for CoG. They don't measure sole width though. Quite a few of the older players irons have low COG and thin sole. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 I'm thinking vcog below 0.7. The lower the better. Quote 14 of the following: Ping G430 Max 10.5 degree Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Mizuno 923 JPX HM HL 6-GW Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 This is a tough one. Maybe the ‘94 Hogan Apex channel backs? Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchunksalot Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 1973 Ben Hogan apex forged, Mizuno MP 14 both fit the criteria looking at the MPF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Define thin sole. Like blades? Or some game improvement clubs. Not much for newer irons. From circa 2006 or so... Ping S58 Adams Idea Pro I have Macgregor VIP 1025M and M685 irons which are close to 0.7 bens197 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 By thin sole, I mean in the neighborhood of the Ping i210's or thinner. I just read this interview with the president of Miura: https://golf.com/gear/irons/shinei-miura-tiger-woods-miura-irons/?utm_campaign=forecast&utm_source=golf.com&utm_medium=email&utm_content={date(&utm_term=Forecast Newsletter Reading between the lines, he seems to have been taught that wide soles are problematic (I may just be projecting...). I think the only way to do what I'm thinking would be to make the sole out of a very heavy metal, perhaps tungsten, that is then welded to the rest of the clubhead. Quote 14 of the following: Ping G430 Max 10.5 degree Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Mizuno 923 JPX HM HL 6-GW Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Relatively wider soles like a G710 is designed for forgiveness. If you’re a 13 you shouldn’t be looking towards extremes of width and head size. There are a lot of clubs that fit in the middle that will accommodate a large variety of swings One of my biggest peeves is that golfers are convinced far too often that certain clubs are problematic or conversely, the bees knees because of an article they’ve read or a video they’ve watched. If you’re a 13 handicap, you’re going to want to swing as many clubs as you can to see which work best. Rickp 1 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hook DeLoft Posted May 2, 2020 Author Share Posted May 2, 2020 5 hours ago, bens197 said: Relatively wider soles like a G710 is designed for forgiveness. If you’re a 13 you shouldn’t be looking towards extremes of width and head size. There are a lot of clubs that fit in the middle that will accommodate a large variety of swings One of my biggest peeves is that golfers are convinced far too often that certain clubs are problematic or conversely, the bees knees because of an article they’ve read or a video they’ve watched. If you’re a 13 handicap, you’re going to want to swing as many clubs as you can to see which work best. I understand your pet peeve, but I've owned just about every type of iron imaginable: Wilson Staff FG17 (surprisingly forgiving in 6 - W), original Big Berthas, X-20's, 3 different generations of Ping G models, Ping i15's, Titleist 718 AP1's, Mizuno MP-18 SC, Mizuno HMB, Hogan Apex Plus (the shallow cavity one), etc. I've found I get a lot better turf interaction with thin soled irons but I could really use a higher trajectory and more forgiveness than is found in most thin soled irons. The most forgiving irons I've found for my swing are the X-20's but the soles in the short irons, in particular, are a little wide. Quote 14 of the following: Ping G430 Max 10.5 degree Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Mizuno 923 JPX HM HL 6-GW Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 I understand your pet peeve, but I've owned just about every type of iron imaginable: Wilson Staff FG17 (surprisingly forgiving in 6 - W), original Big Berthas, X-20's, 3 different generations of Ping G models, Ping i15's, Titleist 718 AP1's, Mizuno MP-18 SC, Mizuno HMB, Hogan Apex Plus (the shallow cavity one), etc. I've found I get a lot better turf interaction with thin soled irons but I could really use a higher trajectory and more forgiveness than is found in most thin soled irons. The most forgiving irons I've found for my swing are the X-20's but the soles in the short irons, in particular, are a little wide.My peeve has to do with countless golfers being swayed by teachers or online salesmen. And while I don’t doubt your success, this information would have been much more helpful from the outset. I hope you find what you’re looking for! Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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