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Wrong. I do putt with my eyes over the ball and with a slightly open stance. I'm a good putter. I also pay play regularly with a friend who has a most unusual putting style - eyes everywhere but over the ball. I don't even like watching him setup and such. But... he's a great putter.
Like most of us know.... nothing matters except that split-second moment of truth with each stroke and with any club.
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If you are raising the grip then the putter isn't correctly fit.  You can be eyes over the ball and not be hunched over.   100% incorrect statement.  It may be what works for you.   Eyes over t

Putting has been the best part of my game for about 3 or 4 years now.  It's the part I work on the most, so no coincidence there 🙂   I was fit by the Tour fitter at PING last year, my eyes were slight

There is no one-size-fits-all in golf. Get some lessons, get a fitting, or experiment until you find something that works, but at the end of the day - just do what works best for you.

On 5/2/2020 at 11:40 AM, Tsmithjr9 said:

It's going to be tough being a good putter if your eyes aren't over the ball
 

 

... Actually quite a few great putters have their eyes inside the ball, especially those with a gate stroke. Putting is the strongest part of my game and the main reason I play to a + index and my eyes are about 2" inside the ball. I have a pretty heavy gate stroke so I cannot see the line with my eyes over the ball. Everyone is different of course and more will putt better with their eyes directly over the ball, but when I gave a free short game lesson with a 5 lesson package, I found about 25% putted better with their eyes inside the ball. And for those that do putt better with their eyes inside the ball it is a real eye opener, if you will excuse the bad pun. They instantly started putting better. Imo Feel Putters do better with their eyes inside and technical putters do better with their eyes one the ball. Obviously not a hard and fast rule but something I found to be more true than not. 

... I think the interesting part is every putt is a straight putt and every stroke should be the same no matter how straight or how much break, with the only variance being length of stroke. The only difference in a normal putting stroke is better putters will often hit the ball on the toe on very fast downhill putts. But so many poor putters will try and" putt the break" like pushing a right to left and pulling a left to right putt. So it isn't the stroke as much as it is the read, then trusting that read and your stroke. 

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13 hours ago, beelzeberto said:

Over the ball for me, looking at a dimple at the edge of the ball closest to my putter.

After you set up to the ball, do you all look at the cup again? I read the line from the cup back to my putter to make sure it's what I want after I set up.

After I set up to the ball lining up my putter to the line on the ball, I look at the hole and putt.  No reason to look back at the ball... I'm already set up.

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There is no one-size-fits-all in golf. Get some lessons, get a fitting, or experiment until you find something that works, but at the end of the day - just do what works best for you.

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I prefer my dominant eye (left) to be slightly behind the ball when I putt because I get a better feel of the line I am putting on.  This perception allows me to putt through the target line a lot easier for me.

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Putting has been the best part of my game for about 3 or 4 years now.  It's the part I work on the most, so no coincidence there 🙂   I was fit by the Tour fitter at PING last year, my eyes were slightly inside the ball, and he was fine with that, as I appeared to see the line very well.  He was mostly concerned with getting the correct loft and life and proper toe hang for my stroke.   We ended up with the Tyne 4, which was very similar to the Scotty Cameron #7 I had been using for 3 years. 

coincidentally I as in a major retailer during the summer messing around with putters, when he fitter there offered to give me a free fitting.  He put me on their machine that took video's from in front and above you.  He focused solely on me getting my eyes over the ball, saying "that was the essential" to  being a good putter.   He did the old drop a ball from your eye test as well.  I indulged him for a few moments and then politely moved on. 

 

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Putting has been the best part of my game for about 3 or 4 years now.  It's the part I work on the most, so no coincidence there [emoji846]   I was fit by the Tour fitter at PING last year, my eyes were slightly inside the ball, and he was fine with that, as I appeared to see the line very well.  He was mostly concerned with getting the correct loft and life and proper toe hang for my stroke.   We ended up with the Tyne 4, which was very similar to the Scotty Cameron #7 I had been using for 3 years. 
coincidentally I as in a major retailer during the summer messing around with putters, when he fitter there offered to give me a free fitting.  He put me on their machine that took video's from in front and above you.  He focused solely on me getting my eyes over the ball, saying "that was the essential" to  being a good putter.   He did the old drop a ball from your eye test as well.  I indulged him for a few moments and then politely moved on. 
 

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5 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I was fit by the Tour fitter at PING last year, my eyes were slightly inside the ball, and he was fine with that, as I appeared to see the line very well. 

Hard for me to say if it really changes on the course or not,  but when I setup using my Eyeline putting mirror I've noticed that my eyes are actually outside of the ball. I never feel quite comfortable with my setup when using the mirror so I suppose it's possible that my eyes are normally more over it, but having my eyes on the inside of the ball definitely feels weird.

Funny enough, I used to game 34" & 35" putters and routinely miss right. When I switched to a 33" putter to feel like I was more over the ball, I started finding the cup more. Like I said above, do what works for you.

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20 hours ago, Tsmithjr9 said:

Not wrong. There's an exception to every rule.

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The vast majority of great putters have their eyes inside the ball. 

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19 hours ago, chisag said:

... I think the interesting part is every putt is a straight putt and every stroke should be the same no matter how straight or how much break, with the variance being lengthy of stroke. The only difference in a putting stroke is better putters will often hit the ball on the toe on very fast downhill putts. But so many will try and" putt the break" like pushing a right to left and pulling a left to right putt. So it isn't the stroke as much as it is the read, then trusting that read and your stroke. 

I heard Steve Elkington say it the best; "every putt is straight, go to the practice green and figure out how far you hit it straight and use that as your line. Whether it's 2 feet, 8 feet or 20 feet it doesn't matter." (paraphrased)  

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On 5/2/2020 at 10:40 AM, Tsmithjr9 said:

It's going to be tough being a good putter if your eyes aren't over the ball

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Yeah, Jack Nicklaus was a horrible putter.  He only won 18 majors, 72 tournaments and placed in the top 10 in majors a total of 73 times.   😉

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On 5/3/2020 at 5:51 PM, chisag said:

 

... Actually quite a few great putters have their eyes inside the ball, especially those with a gate stroke. Putting is the strongest part of my game and the main reason I play to a + index and my eyes are about 2" inside the ball. I have a pretty heavy gate stroke so I cannot see the line with my eyes over the ball. Everyone is different of course and more will putt better with their eyes directly over the ball, but when I gave a free short game lesson with a 5 lesson package, I found about 25% putted better with their eyes inside the ball. And for those that do putt better with their eyes inside the ball it is a real eye opener, if you will excuse the bad pun. They instantly started putting better. Imo Feel Putters do better with their eyes inside and technical putters do better with their eyes one the ball. Obviously not a hard and fast rule but something I found to be more true than not. 

... I think the interesting part is every putt is a straight putt and every stroke should be the same no matter how straight or how much break, with the only variance being length of stroke. The only difference in a normal putting stroke is better putters will often hit the ball on the toe on very fast downhill putts. But so many poor putters will try and" putt the break" like pushing a right to left and pulling a left to right putt. So it isn't the stroke as much as it is the read, then trusting that read and your stroke. 

I love what you said. Definitely in the school of every putt is a straight putt.

I practiced the last couple of days with my eyes inside the ball about a ball. I did make better putts that way!!!

Seems the majority who responded are inside the ball. Thanks to all who responded.

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57 minutes ago, TimoTe said:

I love what you said. Definitely in the school of every putt is a straight putt.

I practiced the last couple of days with my eyes inside the ball about a ball. I did make better putts that way!!!

Seems the majority who responded are inside the ball. Thanks to all who responded.

including Luke Donald, and he's ok at putting 😉

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I've tried pretty much everything.  I'm not a bad putter, but love tinkering and trying new things.  If you really want to blow someone's mind who has "all the answers" about putting, start using a side-saddle putter and watch them struggle with that.  Eyes over the line or slightly inside works equally well for me.  Side saddle works really well too.  The only thing that I really can't handle is eyes outside the line.  Square or open stance (side saddle is really just putting from a VERY open stance) can be equally helpful.  A more upright and open stance allows more peripheral vision and a more complete view of the line toward the hole.  

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Most of the putting gurus say that your eyes either need to be over the ball or inside the line. Outside the line is bad, but I am sure someone might be able to make it work.  A putting mirror does wonders to ensure a repeatable setup every time....shoulders and eye position. 

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I'd say I'm right over the ball, maybe slightly inside of it.  Somewhere between over the middle and over the inside edge of the ball.  Interestingly I posted this in the Evnroll thread but my Newport and Evnroll are set up with the same specs for length and lie angle but the hosel designs result in the Evnroll sitting about 1/4 inch closer to me at address position vs the Newport.  This allows me to more naturally have my eyes over the ball where the Newport I'm slightly inside of it.  I also have more of an arc when I putt with the newport, which seems to make sense to me.

As far as aiming goes, I use my line on the ball and visualize the putt as I'm walking up to it and setting up, that way my aim line is based on the line or a spot on the green a few inches ahead of the ball and I look at the hole one last time just for a speed check.

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always over the ball before. Agree with the OP that when I set up this way I am more hunched, which doesnt feel as natural but it does my hands more pronated and leads to a less handsy/wristy stroke. Much better results this way.

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Practicing with my Lazer line has helped me with my sight line from setup to the hole. Once I am over the ball with the correct sight picture I feel free to swing and it will be in the intended target line. It does seem easier to see the correct site picture being just inside the ball - eyes over the hosel.

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Not sure if you are on Instagram or not, but Padraig Harrington has a golf instruction segment, he just did one on putting alignment.  He basically says, there is no perfect way.  He shows you how you will know your correct setup, eyes over ball, eyes inside ball or eyes outside the ball.  It was very interesting!

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I used to think they were over the ball till I got a putting mirror and realized they were way ahead of the ball. Have worked on a consistent set-up to now get directly over the ball.

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