BADFanBoi Scotty Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Having this argument with my dad. Love to hear other thoughts. Our course has reopened, first game Saturday. I am intending to only being my irons, which will be a 3i To LW one length. No driver, no fairways, which I normally play. Reason being, even though I've been practicing some, online lessons, two swing modifications, I'm going to be rusty as an old windmill. With irons, the damage won't be as bad, but neither will I be able to get anywhere near to all the hole in 2 like I would normally. So expecting not a great score, and will record a high handicap round. Because I'm handicapping myself with choice of clubs, am I cheating the handicap system? (Because playing on Saturday, have to enter the comp, or no game, so can't argue don't enter the comp and can't play). Edit: We're not worried per say, but if there was a club championship coming up and it looked like my handicap may go out, would your opinion be any different? Not that the club championship at any serious level should be anything but gross stroke... silver & black 1 Quote LTDx LS 9*D, HZRDUS Green HC 60g 6.0, 45" 4g + 12g weight King LTD @ 14.5* HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 42.5" King LTD @ 17.5*, HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 40.5"/ 2022 Utility Iron 2 @ 17*, Ventus Black 10x, 39.25" 2022 Utility Iron 4 OL @ 20* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" EQ1-NX OL 5i-PW Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" Cobra SBOL 48*, 52*, 56* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" C-Series DW Armlock Vice Pro Plus Link to comment
THEZIPR23 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 One round won't matter to your handicap. If you intend to do it for multiple rounds and then play in comp with higher handicap, probably. I would venture a guess that if you told fellow competitors that you were playing irons only off an established full bag handicap they would love for you to compete. Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment
GaDawg Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Sorry, I don't understand your logic. I know you may be rusty, but that will be the case with all clubs.Maybe you should just hit balls on the range. tony@CIC, Blueberry_Squishie and THEZIPR23 3 Quote Driver: TSI3 - 10*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Driver: Stealth Plus - 10.5*, Oban Kiyoshi Purple O4Flex-65 Grams Purred 3 Wood: SIM - 15*, Graphite Design Tour AD DJ5 Stiff Hybrid: TS3 - 19*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Irons: 5 - PW T150, with Nippon Zelos 7 Reg, 4 iron - U505 with Project X HZRDUS Black Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM 8 - 50*, 60* Standard Wedge Shafts Wedge: Milled Grind 3 MG3 56* S200 shaft Putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment
tony@CIC Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Having this argument with my dad. Love to hear other thoughts. Our course has reopened, first game Saturday. I am intending to only being my irons, which will be a 3i To LW one length. No driver, no fairways, which I normally play. Reason being, even though I've been practicing some, online lessons, two swing modifications, I'm going to be rusty as an old windmill. With irons, the damage won't be as bad, but neither will I be able to get anywhere near to all the hole in 2 like I would normally. So expecting not a great score, and will record a high handicap round. Because I'm handicapping myself with choice of clubs, am I cheating the handicap system? Would practicing in comp by only having every second club in the bag (3i, 5i, 7i, 9i, PW, LW) be cheating the handicap? (Because playing on Saturday, have to enter the comp, or no game, so can't argue don't enter the comp and can't play).If you're concerned about the handicap keep in mind that the new calculation is based on the best 8 of the last 20 scores. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy GaDawg 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment
Blueberry_Squishie Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 That sort of thing wouldn't fly with the handicapper at my club. Suppose it depends on the handicapper at your course. Maybe check in with them. Quote Cobra F9 9.5° (Hzrdus Yellow X) Cobra Speedzone 15° (Tensei Blue X) Srixon H85 19° (Hzrdus Black 85 6.0) Mizuno MP20 MMC 4-PW (KBS $ Taper 120S) Mizuno T20 51°, 55°, 59° (KBS $ Taper 120S) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 34" Srixon ZStar Link to comment
RickyBobby_PR Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 The object of the game is to get the ball in the hole in the lease amount of strokes. What we setup Let’s you do that then that’s the setup to use. In essence you are playing with the mindset that every hole is a stroke higher than stated par. As a 16 hdcp that’s about where your game would be. I see no issue with this. If you are playing a 3i you must be a good iron player and a not so good driver of the ball. Micah T, TR1PTIK and silver & black 3 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment
DaveP043 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 13 hours ago, Green Sheep Productions said: Our course has reopened, first game Saturday. I am intending to only being my irons, which will be a 3i To LW one length. No driver, no fairways, which I normally play. Reason being, even though I've been practicing some, online lessons, two swing modifications, I'm going to be rusty as an old windmill. With irons, the damage won't be as bad, but neither will I be able to get anywhere near to all the hole in 2 like I would normally. So expecting not a great score, and will record a high handicap round. Because I'm handicapping myself with choice of clubs, am I cheating the handicap system? The way I read this, you're planning to make club selections that you believe will result in the lowest score possible for you on that day. That's all the handicap system expects from you, that you try to shoot the lowest score you can. I'd suggest that you show up and play with the normal 14 clubs in your bag. You might find out that you're swinging well, and you might choose to hit a driver or two as the round progresses. That wouldn't be any different from a guy who hits his first two drives off the planet, and chooses not to hit driver again the rest of the day. Make each club choice the best one you can, taking all factors into account. Eric D., Micah T, heavygolffeels and 3 others 6 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment
silver & black Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 To my understanding, there is no rule about what clubs you have to use or carry.... just the number of clubs in your bag. I see no reason why it wouldn't be okay if you don't want to play driver/woods on a particular day. Quote Link to comment
GolfSpy AFG Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I wouldn't have a problem with it. Like another post stated, it's just one round so the impact to your handicap shouldn't be that much. And, if in your own assessment you don't have much of a chance of hitting driver or FW well, then it sounds like you're not intentionally disadvantaging yourself but trying to set yourself up for your best score still. All that being said, your driver and FW aren't going to get better going this route...got to bag them and hit them. Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment
Bills300 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Call it a practice round and don't record your score. Tom the Golf Nut 1 Quote Driver: Ping G410+ Fairway Wood: Ping G425 (x2) Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK Irons: Mizuno JPX 919 HM Pro Wedges: Ping Glide 2.0 50*, 54*, and 58* Putter: Ping Fetch 2021 Ball: Snell MTB-X Link to comment
DaveP043 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Bills300 said: Call it a practice round and don't record your score. He said if he wanted to play on Saturday, he needed to enter the competition at his course, otherwise he wouldn't be able to play. If he's in a competition, he's required to post his score. Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment
Micah T Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 6:03 AM, DaveP043 said: That wouldn't be any different from a guy who hits his first two drives off the planet, and chooses not to hit driver again the rest of the day. I basically did this last year: 4 out of 5 courses in my rotation start with par 5’s, and if I started my round with an OB tee shot, the driver did not come back out. My handicap went down to 6.6 from 9.8 by putting the driver away. This season I bought a new driver, and continue hitting it no matter how the 1st shot goes. And of course, my handicap is rising again: but it always goes up slightly the first 10-20 rounds of the season. But this doesn’t stop friends who see me in my late season prime from questioning the authenticity of the 84’s I’m carding these days... Quote Driver - Cobra LtDxLS 3 Wood - Ping g410 LST 2iron - Titleist U505 Irons - Ping i59 Wedges - Vokey Sm9 Putter - Mizuno Mcraft IV Link to comment
Shodags Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 On 5/12/2020 at 8:03 AM, DaveP043 said: The way I read this, you're planning to make club selections that you believe will result in the lowest score possible for you on that day. That's all the handicap system expects from you, that you try to shoot the lowest score you can. I'd suggest that you show up and play with the normal 14 clubs in your bag. You might find out that you're swinging well, and you might choose to hit a driver or two as the round progresses. That wouldn't be any different from a guy who hits his first two drives off the planet, and chooses not to hit driver again the rest of the day. Make each club choice the best one you can, taking all factors into account. !00% agreed with this. Using the clubs that you're hitting well to make a score is the purpose of the game. In my mind, you are working to improve (also a goal of every round), and I would score the rounds.... Quote Handicap 12 Location: North Carolina Driver: TaylorMade M3 Fuji Speed Shaft R Flex 3-Wood: TaylorMade M3 Fuji Speed Shaft R Flex Hybrids: TaylorMade GAPR Mid, GAPR Hi Irons: TaylorMade P-790 5-PW, Oban Shafts, R+ Flex Wedges: Cleveland RTX 56 Full Grind, Oban shafts, Cleveland RTX 60, Mid Grind, Oban Shaft Putter: Odyssey DF-550 Link to comment
heavygolffeels Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I see no problem with it as long as your are making a good faith effort to shoot your best score. In this case you believe going without the woods will help you do that. I've gone 1 round not hitting driver because I was a mess with it in warmups and literally could not keep it in a 50 yard window. I even put it in the car before the round so I wouldnt be tempted and hit 3 wood and driving iron all day and actually posted a very typical score. However, dont expect everyone to see things your way. I could see you getting called out on it. I would probably put the clubs in the bag as to not draw attention. Quote GARSEN GRIP TESTER Driver: PING G400 MAX, Ventus Blue 6x Woods: COBRA F6 Baffler AD DI 8S Hybrid: CALLAWAY Apex Pro, Ventus Blue 8s Irons: SRIXON ZX5 mk2 5-6, ZX7 mk2 7-PW, Modus 120x Wedges: EDEL 50 C grind, 54 V grind, CLEVELAND 60 RTX6 Low Putter: YES Abbie! Link to comment
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