Popeye64 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Can anyone share thoughts on the TT Score shafts used in the paks? Comparable at all to the PX LZ 6.0 shaft? I suspect not but worth asking Thank you in advance friends. If the PX is a higher launching shaft then yes. Very compatible. TT Score LT is a legitimate shaft. Don't let the price fool you. Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk IndyBonzo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy SAM Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 2 hours ago, IndyBonzo said: Can anyone share thoughts on the TT Score shafts used in the paks? Comparable at all to the PX LZ 6.0 shaft? I suspect not but worth asking Thank you in advance friends. Can’t compare it to the PX LZ 6.0, but can say I built it up to R+ for the TS3 (6 & 9-iron) and liked it, but found the weight difference from my Nippon 105s to be a little more than I was hoping for. However, for $13/shaft, could be worth a shot - you may love them, and if not, you're not out a huge investment. IndyBonzo 1 Quote Driver - PXG 0811 XF - Gen 5, 9 degrees (+1 setting), Oban Devotion TR 65 04 3/5 Wood - Warrior Golf (don't ask) Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) Irons (4-PW) - Caley 01T (4-PW) Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65* Ball - Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOG Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 2 hours ago, IndyBonzo said: Can anyone share thoughts on the TT Score shafts used in the paks? Comparable at all to the PX LZ 6.0 shaft? I suspect not but worth asking Thank you in advance friends. The LZ are a mid launch and a bit firmer overall except in the center section. The Score are more high launching with a softer tip. Weight is the same. They launch too high for me and I prefer a low lauch which is why Im still playing dg s300s. Also, you can search shaft pulls on ebay and you often can find a bunch of shafts for cheap. I personaly found a set Of Toski 3-pw for $75 on the bay that had the dg s300 shafts and pulled them and sold the heads for $100. A secretly good deal are these nippon pro 840s which match the bend profile of the LZ but are lighter https://www.hirekogolf.com/nippon-ns-pro-840-iron-shaft-s-flex.html best deal out there if you need a lighter steel shaft Some brands like Adams used legit shafts like kbs and a whole set goes for less than a set of shafts. Steel shafts can be pulled and re-used over and over unlike graphite. Edited May 20 by KOG IndyBonzo 1 Quote Driver : Ping 425 Max w Diamana ‘ahina 70 Stiff 3 Wood : Honma Big-LB 14* w Fujikura Motore F1 70 Stiff 7 Wood: Great Big Bertha B23 w Vizard 43 stiff Hybrid : Cobra King Tec 24* with MMT Hy70 stiff Utility Iron: Srixon ZX 23* 4 iron w Recoil 95 Stiff 5-GW : Maltby KE4 Max W Nippon NS Pro 840 Stiff 52* / 58* Vokey SM7 Putter: Bettinardi BB1 Sun Mountain C130 Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 35 minutes ago, KOG said: The LZ are a mid launch and a bit firmer overall except in the center section. The Score are more high launching with a softer tip. Weight is the same. They launch too high for me and I prefer a low lauch which is why Im still playing dg s300s. Also, you can search shaft pulls on ebay and you often can find a bunch of shafts for cheap. I personaly found a set Of Toski 3-pw for $75 on the bay that had the dg s300 shafts and pulled them and sold the heads for $100. A secretly good deal are these nippon pro 840s which match the bend profile of the LZ but are lighter https://www.hirekogolf.com/nippon-ns-pro-840-iron-shaft-s-flex.html best deal out there if you need a lighter steel shaft Some brands like Adams used legit shafts like kbs and a whole set goes for less than a set of shafts. Steel shafts can be pulled and re-used over and over unlike graphite. It's funny you mention that because I was having the same discussion with a guy that I traded a driver shaft for a whole set of Recoil 680's with. We both do hobby club work. If you have the know-how and some basic tools, you begin to see sets of clubs in a much different perspective. A $100 set of clubs could easily have $200 worth of shafts but most people wouldn't think that taking the clubs apart would make any sense. Forrest for the trees situation. IndyBonzo and KOG 2 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyBonzo Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Thank you @KOG @Deepred@GolfSpy SAM @Popeye64and @azstu324 for the good input. I am trying to figure a way to test a TS3 and TS4 without spending $140 +/-apiece and was thinking of ordering them with the $10 Score shaft to save some coin. I have old clubs lying around and I suppose I could pull shafts and just buy the heads and build my own. I have built drivers no problem (which I can configure using movable weights in the heads), but worry about jacking up swing weight if I shaft irons myself. Maybe I should just get over my reticence and give it a whirl. Much appreciated. KOG and Deepred 2 Quote Working at getting better ... and very slowly getting there. Paradym 8* (UST Mimaya MP5 40-L Otto-Phlex) Rogue ST Max 3 & 5 Woods ( MotoreX F1 7-S) Paradym X 4 and 5 Hybrid ( MotoreX HB 7-S) CB-57 4-P or Maltby TS3 (5-8)/TS4 (9-PW)/TS1 (GW) (shafts: LZ 6.0) RTX6 Zipcore 53*, and 58* mid wedges (KBS High Rev 125) Special Select Fastback 1.5 Gloves Tour X Balls Don't count my clubs! Ha. The 4 iron, 5 hybrid, and 53* Cleveland are in and out of the bag depending on mood, course, and moon phase. My Official Red Rooster Sussex Glove Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/58614-2023-mgs-forum-member-test-red-rooster-sussex-golf-glove/#comment-911042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOG Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, IndyBonzo said: Thank you @KOG and @azstu324 for the good input. I am trying to figure a way to test a TS3 and TS4 without spending $140 +/-apiece and was thinking of ordering them with the $10 Score shaft to save some coin. I have old clubs lying around and I suppose I could pull shafts and just buy the heads and build my own. I have built drivers no problem (which I can configure using movable weights in the heads), but worry about jacking up swing weight if I shaft irons myself. Maybe I should just get over my reticence and give it a whirl. Much appreciated. If you have unused clubs def just pull a shaft. Its easy just heat the hosel up with a butane torch and rotate till you smell or hear the epoxy melt. Then step on the club head and twist and pull out from the grip. If you want to save the ferrule, razor blade it at the hosel so it separates and push it up a bit before hitting with the flame. Theres lots of vids on how to but its fairly simple, cant mess it up for steel shaft pulls Otherwise, the pack is prob like $10-15 more so maybe save the effort. Up to you Edited May 20 by KOG IndyBonzo 1 Quote Driver : Ping 425 Max w Diamana ‘ahina 70 Stiff 3 Wood : Honma Big-LB 14* w Fujikura Motore F1 70 Stiff 7 Wood: Great Big Bertha B23 w Vizard 43 stiff Hybrid : Cobra King Tec 24* with MMT Hy70 stiff Utility Iron: Srixon ZX 23* 4 iron w Recoil 95 Stiff 5-GW : Maltby KE4 Max W Nippon NS Pro 840 Stiff 52* / 58* Vokey SM7 Putter: Bettinardi BB1 Sun Mountain C130 Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 15 minutes ago, KOG said: If you have unused clubs def just pull a shaft. Its easy just heat the hosel up with a butane torch and rotate till you smell or hear the epoxy melt. Then step on the club head and twist and pull out from the grip. If you want to save the ferrule, razor blade it at the hosel so it separates and push it up a bit before hitting with the flame. Theres lots of vids on how to but its fairly simple, cant mess it up for steel shaft pulls Otherwise, the pack is prob like $10-15 more so maybe save the effort. Up to you Just to preface this method is for steel only! IndyBonzo and KOG 2 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOG Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 very true. Graphite is delicate IndyBonzo 1 Quote Driver : Ping 425 Max w Diamana ‘ahina 70 Stiff 3 Wood : Honma Big-LB 14* w Fujikura Motore F1 70 Stiff 7 Wood: Great Big Bertha B23 w Vizard 43 stiff Hybrid : Cobra King Tec 24* with MMT Hy70 stiff Utility Iron: Srixon ZX 23* 4 iron w Recoil 95 Stiff 5-GW : Maltby KE4 Max W Nippon NS Pro 840 Stiff 52* / 58* Vokey SM7 Putter: Bettinardi BB1 Sun Mountain C130 Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyBonzo Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I ordered a TS3 7 iron to try. I really have a problem. Love this forum, but it’s not helping. Lol. vandyland, Deepred and GolfSpy SAM 2 1 Quote Working at getting better ... and very slowly getting there. Paradym 8* (UST Mimaya MP5 40-L Otto-Phlex) Rogue ST Max 3 & 5 Woods ( MotoreX F1 7-S) Paradym X 4 and 5 Hybrid ( MotoreX HB 7-S) CB-57 4-P or Maltby TS3 (5-8)/TS4 (9-PW)/TS1 (GW) (shafts: LZ 6.0) RTX6 Zipcore 53*, and 58* mid wedges (KBS High Rev 125) Special Select Fastback 1.5 Gloves Tour X Balls Don't count my clubs! Ha. The 4 iron, 5 hybrid, and 53* Cleveland are in and out of the bag depending on mood, course, and moon phase. My Official Red Rooster Sussex Glove Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/58614-2023-mgs-forum-member-test-red-rooster-sussex-golf-glove/#comment-911042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye64 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 TS3s filling the bag today went on to score a -1 71. Simple setup with the Score LT shafts. Had a blast Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk IndyBonzo, KOG and GolfSpy SAM 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyBonzo Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 11 minutes ago, Popeye64 said: TS3s filling the bag today went on to score a -1 71. Simple setup with the Score LT shafts. Had a blast Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk Great looking clubs and super round! Popeye64 1 Quote Working at getting better ... and very slowly getting there. Paradym 8* (UST Mimaya MP5 40-L Otto-Phlex) Rogue ST Max 3 & 5 Woods ( MotoreX F1 7-S) Paradym X 4 and 5 Hybrid ( MotoreX HB 7-S) CB-57 4-P or Maltby TS3 (5-8)/TS4 (9-PW)/TS1 (GW) (shafts: LZ 6.0) RTX6 Zipcore 53*, and 58* mid wedges (KBS High Rev 125) Special Select Fastback 1.5 Gloves Tour X Balls Don't count my clubs! Ha. The 4 iron, 5 hybrid, and 53* Cleveland are in and out of the bag depending on mood, course, and moon phase. My Official Red Rooster Sussex Glove Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/58614-2023-mgs-forum-member-test-red-rooster-sussex-golf-glove/#comment-911042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted May 23 Author Share Posted May 23 Oh boy do I have some news to report.. First off.. I'm not a religious man.. but I'd like to start by thanking the Lord for the Maltby TS4! Today I played my favorite little exec Springfield GC. This course is really thoughtfully laid out. There are 7 decent sized par 4's and 11 par 3's. The par 3's are designed to allow you to use your entire bag ranging from 125 yds to 210 yds and everything in between. Additionally, most of the greens have shelves so shot placement is always a factor. I shot par which is 61.. And my personal best on this course! Of the 11 par 3's, I hit GIR on all but 1. These things are just point and shoot. They feel insanely good, and despite the slightly weaker lofts, I was keeping up with all of the distances from my OG TS1's. Hopefully next week I'll be playing a longer course to really stretch these things out. So far.. I'm 100% satisfied with these. MattF, vandyland, Deepred and 5 others 7 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyBonzo Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 My TS3 built to my playing specs arrives today. I figured, if I end up loving it and build a set, it will be ready to go. I am eager to give it a try. (Clearly, if I am posting about it before it arrives.) @azstu324 I am glad to hear you love the TS4s. I am curious about the TS4 also. Based on handicap and your score cited above, you are clearly a better golfer than me, but -- do you find it forgiving and workable? Is there another iron to which you would compare it? Thank you in advance. GolfSpy SAM and StrokerAce 2 Quote Working at getting better ... and very slowly getting there. Paradym 8* (UST Mimaya MP5 40-L Otto-Phlex) Rogue ST Max 3 & 5 Woods ( MotoreX F1 7-S) Paradym X 4 and 5 Hybrid ( MotoreX HB 7-S) CB-57 4-P or Maltby TS3 (5-8)/TS4 (9-PW)/TS1 (GW) (shafts: LZ 6.0) RTX6 Zipcore 53*, and 58* mid wedges (KBS High Rev 125) Special Select Fastback 1.5 Gloves Tour X Balls Don't count my clubs! Ha. The 4 iron, 5 hybrid, and 53* Cleveland are in and out of the bag depending on mood, course, and moon phase. My Official Red Rooster Sussex Glove Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/58614-2023-mgs-forum-member-test-red-rooster-sussex-golf-glove/#comment-911042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Got this head on their clearance section last year for 75 cents... yeah, less than a dollar. I was buying supplies for my first club build and figured why not. Picked up a hybrid shaft on e b a y and it is now my 'stinger' iron. It's a little butter-knifey, but surprisingly forgiving. The number is 3 but loft is closer to 4. vandyland, pozzit, Deepred and 3 others 5 1 Quote Driver- Callaway Mavrik Woods- PING G 3w, Callaway UW 19*, TourEdge C721 22* Irons- Cobra One Length Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw Putter- Cleveland HB Soft #1 w/UST Ball- Maxfli Tour X Interested in an in-depth review of the Callaway Paradym driver? Click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, IndyBonzo said: Based on handicap and your score cited above, you are clearly a better golfer than me, but -- do you find it forgiving and workable? Is there another iron to which you would compare it? Thank you in advance. Take this all with a grain of salt as I've only had 1 round with them Aesthetically these could be a little bit intimidating for some. I would say that they are a very inviting looking blade. The top line is medium thin with minimal offset but the blade length is longer than most and that's a characteristic of Maltby building in some extra forgiveness. As a higher single digits guy, these are absolutely perfect to my eye. As for workability, these will do anything that you ask of them. Forgiveness on these is exactly as advertised. If you can get past the blade-ish appearance, these play like a GI iron. Just the 1 round that I played, I'm already as confident with these as I was with my TS1-s that I played for 3 years. Not sure yet what club id compare these to. They're really their own thing which is also super cool. IndyBonzo and GolfSpy SAM 2 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozzit Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 8 minutes ago, azstu324 said: blade-ish appearance, Do you mean this as "not as confidence inspiring" (thin and forgiving) or "chunky blade" (forgiving and thin for its forgiveness level) Slight difference but hope it makes sense. Quote Driver: Ben Hogan GS53 4W: Maltby KE4 2i: Maltby KE4 FDI 4-PW: Maltby TS-1 - C-Taper 120g 50,54,58: Maltby TSW Putter: L.A.B. DF2.1 Accra Shaft 2023 Forum Testers - L.A.B. Putters Ball: Mixed prefer ProV1 or Snell Handicap: 9.2 - Best Score: 72 (E) Springdale CC, Canton NC -2022 2020 Forum Tester - Ben Hogan GS53 Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyBonzo Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 25 minutes ago, azstu324 said: Take this all with a grain of salt as I've only had 1 round with them Aesthetically these could be a little bit intimidating for some. I would say that they are a very inviting looking blade. The top line is medium thin with minimal offset but the blade length is longer than most and that's a characteristic of Maltby building in some extra forgiveness. As a higher single digits guy, these are absolutely perfect to my eye. As for workability, these will do anything that you ask of them. Forgiveness on these is exactly as advertised. If you can get past the blade-ish appearance, these play like a GI iron. Just the 1 round that I played, I'm already as confident with these as I was with my TS1-s that I played for 3 years. Not sure yet what club id compare these to. They're really their own thing which is also super cool. Thank you @azstu324! Much appreciated, and very glad you love them. azstu324 1 Quote Working at getting better ... and very slowly getting there. Paradym 8* (UST Mimaya MP5 40-L Otto-Phlex) Rogue ST Max 3 & 5 Woods ( MotoreX F1 7-S) Paradym X 4 and 5 Hybrid ( MotoreX HB 7-S) CB-57 4-P or Maltby TS3 (5-8)/TS4 (9-PW)/TS1 (GW) (shafts: LZ 6.0) RTX6 Zipcore 53*, and 58* mid wedges (KBS High Rev 125) Special Select Fastback 1.5 Gloves Tour X Balls Don't count my clubs! Ha. The 4 iron, 5 hybrid, and 53* Cleveland are in and out of the bag depending on mood, course, and moon phase. My Official Red Rooster Sussex Glove Review: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/58614-2023-mgs-forum-member-test-red-rooster-sussex-golf-glove/#comment-911042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, pozzit said: Do you mean this as "not as confidence inspiring" (thin and forgiving) or "chunky blade" (forgiving and thin for its forgiveness level) Slight difference but hope it makes sense. The term "blade" has always been kind of vague to me. Kind of like classifying shaft stiffness based on the label. there's definitely some overlapping of categories. Technically any MB is automatically categorized as a blade. That said I've seen some CB's more intimidating than MB's. These are definitely MB's in appearance and design but they aren't nearly as frightening as some "blades" I've seen or played in the past. For example, I played some Callaway X blade MB's and Cleveland TA1's that I would consider fine cutlery in the iron world. The TS4's aren't chunky AT ALL, but they aren't the smallest that I've seen. Let's call them "fuller figured" blades with some very sexy curves . If you were to also classify the OG TS-1 as a version of a MB/blade, I'd say the TS4's are more of a blade in appearance and feel but maybe better forgiveness on toe or lower groove hits. This for me is great because those are the 2 areas that I find my inefficiencies in hitting. If anybody is at all familiar with the DBM/TE's, I'd say a similar top line width but with much narrower soles and similar length, but more forgiving and better feeling. Much better turf interaction and forgiveness. Also, MUCH better transition design from longer to shorter clubs. Here's an image that I "borrowed" from another forum of the TS4 and DBM 6i GolfSpy SAM 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozzit Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 10 minutes ago, azstu324 said: The term "blade" has always been kind of vague to me. Kind of like classifying shaft stiffness based on the label. there's definitely some overlapping of categories. Technically any MB is automatically categorized as a blade. That said I've seen some CB's more intimidating than MB's. These are definitely MB's in appearance and design but they aren't nearly as frightening as some "blades" I've seen or played in the past. For example, I played some Callaway X blade MB's and Cleveland TA1's that I would consider fine cutlery in the iron world. The TS4's aren't chunky AT ALL, but they aren't the smallest that I've seen. Let's call them "fuller figured" blades with some very sexy curves . If you were to also classify the OG TS-1 as a version of a MB/blade, I'd say the TS4's are more of a blade in appearance and feel but maybe better forgiveness on toe or lower groove hits. This for me is great because those are the 2 areas that I find my inefficiencies in hitting. If anybody is at all familiar with the DBM/TE's, I'd say a similar top line width but with much narrower soles and similar length, but more forgiving and better feeling. Much better turf interaction and forgiveness. Also, MUCH better transition design from longer to shorter clubs. Really you think these compare to the TE in topline thickness? Thats great to hear. I love a thin topline with the forgiveness of something meatier. I was going back and forth between the TS1 and TE when i chose my last set. I just didnt prefer the shiny finish, weak lofts, and rear aesthetics of the TE. Appreciate the information. I suspect there will be a shiny new club head landing on my doorstep sooner then the wife wants. GolfSpy SAM and azstu324 1 1 Quote Driver: Ben Hogan GS53 4W: Maltby KE4 2i: Maltby KE4 FDI 4-PW: Maltby TS-1 - C-Taper 120g 50,54,58: Maltby TSW Putter: L.A.B. DF2.1 Accra Shaft 2023 Forum Testers - L.A.B. Putters Ball: Mixed prefer ProV1 or Snell Handicap: 9.2 - Best Score: 72 (E) Springdale CC, Canton NC -2022 2020 Forum Tester - Ben Hogan GS53 Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted May 25 Author Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, pozzit said: Really you think these compare to the TE in topline thickness? Thats great to hear. I love a thin topline with the forgiveness of something meatier. I was going back and forth between the TS1 and TE when i chose my last set. I just didnt prefer the shiny finish, weak lofts, and rear aesthetics of the TE. Appreciate the information. I suspect there will be a shiny new club head landing on my doorstep sooner then the wife wants. In case you missed it, I updated my post with a comparison pic of the DBM and TS4. Hopefully that is helpful GolfSpy SAM 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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