Trpearson55 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I have bent most of my current irons 2 or more degrees lower, and have noticed that my turf interaction in the last few months has not felt great. I know its a general rule that taking loft off effectively lowers bounce, but has anyone experienced something similar? I am a fairly steep player, some more bounce is typically better for me. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 It is not a general rule. Every degree you deloft reduces bounce a degree. The 2 degree deloft you did reduced bounce 2 degrees. Rtracymog 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guests Guest Delete Posted May 23, 2020 Guests Share Posted May 23, 2020 The leading edge relief on some clubs is sometimes referred to as a pre-worn leading edge. This can help clubs with less bounce to have better turf interaction. I start off with that because it can be added by a skilled club builder and a grinder. The factory bounce on a club can vary dramatically from club model to model. Some models have only 3 to 5 degrees of bounce in the whole set. Some clubs increase bounce from 3 degrees on the 3 iron to 10 degrees on the pitching wedge - progressive bounce. And some models have lots of bounce higher than 10 degrees in the short irons like Ping G's. The bounce changes the impact location on the face. You mentioned being steep so having higher bounce would help to keep impact in the correct vertical orientation on the face and relief from the turf. My experience is lower bounce makes impact on the face raise a groove or two. Higher face impact launches higher with less efficiency. Now this is unless someone has a problem hitting it thin because they come in shallow with a picking swing and little turf interaction. This is the perfect scenario for low bounce and maybe even very little edge relief. Too much bounce and a shallow picker are a recipe for disaster. Knowing you decreased the bounce by decreasing the loft you can do 3 things: Put them back to factory specs to get back the bounce and use the clubs as they were intended. Have the leading edge ground to a worn, rounded leading edge to make the improve turf interaction Change the turf interaction by changing either your impact position (more forward) or path more shallow to match the change in loft and bounce. Basically, less forward shaft lean at impact (but not none) It might help to talk about specifics if you tell us what clubs you are taking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I have a buddy that plays all cb and mb 2* strong with no issues. A steep swing will have the potential to be impacted more than a shallow swing Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 As a result of my TrueSpec fitting the jpx919 tour irons I play are bent strong. I do not notice any negative turf interactions, though I am quite shallow and thus less bounce is helpful for me GaDawg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscall Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 That is an interesting question and good to know. I am thinking about bending 3 iron down to a 2 iron degree since they do not make it in a lefty. Hmm may need to find a good grinder Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Currently what is in the bag: Driver: Switch between a Callaway XR16 5 degree long drive driver, Titleist TS2 driver, or TaylorMade Mini Burner Upper end of the back I switch out between: Titleist U510 1 iron, Mizuno MP20HMB 3 iron bend down to 2 iron loft, Titleist TS2 3 and 5 wood, Callaway Epic 3 and 4 hybrid Iron are Mizuno MP-20 SEL 3-PW Wedges are Vokey SM8's 46, 50, 54, 58, 62 Putter(s): switch between Scotty Cameron Newport 2.5 Special or a Odyssey Tank 7 putter that I converted to an armlock putter. All grips are Jumbo Max XL Ball switched between ProV1 x, ProV1 left dash, and TP5 X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, mscall said: That is an interesting question and good to know. I am thinking about bending 3 iron down to a 2 iron degree since they do not make it in a lefty. Hmm may need to find a good grinder Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy If you are bending stronger you don't need a grinder; you will be reducing bounce. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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