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Hello everyone! Just a green recruit over here wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this.

Every time I am near or around the green in scenario's in which I need to chip the ball, I am always wondering what the best wedge in each case would be? I currently have a 52, 56, and 60 degree in the bag. In most cases I always default to the 52 since it should be the easiest club to chip with but I've been wondering if there are clear cut instances in which I should be switching to a different given wedge?

Appreciate all the feedback in advance!

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It will depend on the situation and what 'works' for you.  No set 'rules' on what to use where.

What @palvord said above.  Try out, and practice, different things with different clubs.  Versatility is your friend around the green.

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Some people use one club all the time while others use multiple clubs. Figure out what works for you. It could be beneficial to work with a single club to learn basic technique and how to alter height, carry, and spin.

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I agree with @palvord, ideally I will use my 60 degree to fly it closer to the hole and land softer to avoid a big ridge/bunker/etc.

I’ve struggled with my short game and that’s what I probably practice the most. I always go to the chipping green and practice different scenarios. I mainly stick to the longer and higher carry for my chips than the bump and run, but that’s because I don’t practice the bump and run enough. 
 

 

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I love the Cleveland RTX Wedges....lots of bounce and grind options.

The Titleist Vokey Wedgeworks unit also does some amazing optionality.

The New Level Tri Forged wedges are pretty good as well!

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I pretty much stick to one club, my TaylorMade HighToe 60, unless the circumstances are unique. I find that by sticking to one club, I can open or s*** it down very consistently. It just is one less thing for me to think about and just focus on the feel of the shot.

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85% of the time it is with one club. But 90% of the time I take 50, 55, & 59 to the shot and decide once I have taken everything into account. 

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As @palvord and @cnosil has said, use what works best for you.  I tend to default to my 56* wedge, but if I need to do a little bump and run, then a PW, 9 or 8 might be in the works.  I've even chipped with a 7 iron from a bit off the green to take trouble out of the equation.

 

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2 hours ago, palvord said:

Honestly, any club in the bag will work for chipping. It depends on the scenario and what you want the ball to do.

If I want the ball to get on the green and start rolling quickly, I will use my 52, 9i, or 7i.

If I want the ball to carry over something and land soft, I will use my 56 or 60.

Here are a few good videos that I have referred to for learning different chipping techniques:

 

 

The best thing that has helped me learn is just going and trying different things at the practice green. The fun part and challenging part of the short game is that there is no one "correct" answer, but there are principles that matter. Happy learning!

Thank you very much for your reply and the videos too! I found the rule of 12 to be quite interesting when it comes to deciding what club to use around the green when chipping. Definitely going to be referencing these videos when I feel lost in my chipping. 

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Hybrid: Cobra Baffler TWS, reg, (20 deg)

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6 hours ago, J Kreger said:

Hello everyone! Just a green recruit over here wondering what everyone's thoughts are on this.

Every time I am near or around the green in scenario's in which I need to chip the ball, I am always wondering what the best wedge in each case would be? I currently have a 52, 56, and 60 degree in the bag. In most cases I always default to the 52 since it should be the easiest club to chip with but I've been wondering if there are clear cut instances in which I should be switching to a different given wedge?

Appreciate all the feedback in advance!

There are a couple, or a thousand, schools of thought on chipping. 

  1. One club with different length swings to control distance - like the clock system
  2. Two or three, maybe 4, swings and use the club for a distance with one of those swings - like putt stroke, 1/4 stroke, 1/2 swing = interval system

The answer is what you feel more confident to get you closer to the hole more often. 

1. One club Clock system - popular with Dave Pelz, is to pick a club you like to use around the greens and learn how far it goes with varying lengths of backswing as if your lead arm is the hour hand on a clock. 6 is the address position, 7 is slightly back, 8 is about 1/4 swing, 9 is left arm parallel to the ground and so on. The typical execution of the shot is to control the length of the backswing and follow through equal amounts, and use a smooth motion that is a simple gravity acceleration that doesn't flip the club nor decelerate. 

2. Swing checkpoints using various clubs - seems to work well from 100-50yds better than 50yds to the green for me. Basically you practice 3 partial swings you feel you execute best, and practice that swing with all your short clubs to your 8 or even 7 iron. You put together a spreadsheet of your yardages with your clubs at different length swings. Even up close to the greens this can work if one of your swings is short enough - for me it is about 2 feet back where the clubhead is just outside my trail foot. 

Eventually, you figure out what works best for your skill and personal style. The more options you have can turn into option paralysis, so some people have one club as their go-to around the greens. Other people have a club and swing for every situation. 

Personally, I use a different club based on how much green I have to work with. Lots of green let's me roll it to the pin so I pick a less lofted club. Less green requires a shot with little run. I hit 2000 balls a month at the range. Half are less than 100 yds to practice these shots to save par around the greens.

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With 2 exceptions my 60* Ping Eye 2 is my go to club 70 yds in, green side rough and bunkers as well. I use the clock system for distance control and bunker and greens side open the face for a high flop shot.

The Two exceptions: a 7i or 8i for bump and roll. A lower lofted wedge - generally a 56* if I have an elevated approach shot from the rough.


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I personally prefer an 8-iron.  IMO, chipping with a higher lofted wedge like a 56 or 60 is a bad idea because its easy to hit it fat or thin.  If you take a short iron and just do a putting stroke, its actually quite easy.

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All comes down to trial and error. What on the golf course works best for your skill set? I've seen everything from a 6 iron to a 64 degree wedge work for folks. With chipping I believe it all comes down to what improves your chances of 1 putting after, go with that club.

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I agree with the comments previously posted regarding one club for around the greens. That is what I committed to. I learned how far I could carry and the ball would release with one club w/multiple swings (short-chip/med-pitch/full-lob, etc). The club was either of my 58 deg or 62 deg lob wedges. Obviously as I got further (outside 40 yards or so) I practiced similarly with the SW/54/56 degree (mainly half and full swings). Lots of practice and instruction if possible. Confidence can build quick if practiced consistently. Good luck. 

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4 hours ago, TimoTe said:

There are a couple, or a thousand, schools of thought on chipping. 

  1. One club with different length swings to control distance - like the clock system
  2. Two or three, maybe 4, swings and use the club for a distance with one of those swings - like putt stroke, 1/4 stroke, 1/2 swing = interval system

The answer is what you feel more confident to get you closer to the hole more often. 

1. One club Clock system - popular with Dave Pelz, is to pick a club you like to use around the greens and learn how far it goes with varying lengths of backswing as if your lead arm is the hour hand on a clock. 6 is the address position, 7 is slightly back, 8 is about 1/4 swing, 9 is left arm parallel to the ground and so on. The typical execution of the shot is to control the length of the backswing and follow through equal amounts, and use a smooth motion that is a simple gravity acceleration that doesn't flip the club nor decelerate. 

2. Swing checkpoints using various clubs - seems to work well from 100-50yds better than 50yds to the green for me. Basically you practice 3 partial swings you feel you execute best, and practice that swing with all your short clubs to your 8 or even 7 iron. You put together a spreadsheet of your yardages with your clubs at different length swings. Even up close to the greens this can work if one of your swings is short enough - for me it is about 2 feet back where the clubhead is just outside my trail foot. 

Eventually, you figure out what works best for your skill and personal style. The more options you have can turn into option paralysis, so some people have one club as their go-to around the greens. Other people have a club and swing for every situation. 

Personally, I use a different club based on how much green I have to work with. Lots of green let's me roll it to the pin so I pick a less lofted club. Less green requires a shot with little run. I hit 2000 balls a month at the range. Half are less than 100 yds to practice these shots to save par around the greens.

Thank you such an in-depth response! I just recently watched a video with Rick Shiels explaining how he handles 30yd-100yd shots and the use of the clock system. The equal parts back and equal parts through is something I know I need to work on for confidence and consistency. 


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I agree with many of the responses above. I use my Vokey 60º most of the time as I can hit many different shots with it, but I will also go with a 52º or even 8 or 9 iron if I want to play a bump and run. Another good resource is Phil Mickelson's instagram account. He has posted quite a few videos with short game tips (not to mention a lot of other great/funny videos).


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3 hours ago, tony@CIC said:

With 2 exceptions my 60* Ping Eye 2 is my go to club 70 yds in, green side rough and bunkers as well. I use the clock system for distance control and bunker and greens side open the face for a high flop shot.

The Two exceptions: a 7i or 8i for bump and roll. A lower lofted wedge - generally a 56* if I have an elevated approach shot from the rough.


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I have to agree with you on not using a lob in the rough with the ball perched up. One of the most frustrating situations would be going under the ball completely. 

The higher bounce on a sand wedge, or a less lofted club like a gap or PW, helps prevent going under it completely. 

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10 hours ago, tchat07 said:

All comes down to trial and error. What on the golf course works best for your skill set? I've seen everything from a 6 iron to a 64 degree wedge work for folks. With chipping I believe it all comes down to what improves your chances of 1 putting after, go with that club.

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Yup, plus I might add confidence - that, of course, comes from lots of practice. 


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