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1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

curious if anyone tracks number of shots from 100 or 125 and in as an example?

What about up and down stats and no this isn’t just for saving par.

I do manually track up & down % from 30 yards out, doesn't matter if it's for birdie or triple, to get an idea of my scrambling ability.

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I'm guessing I am an outlier when it comes to this but I track everything. DECADE breaks it down in a couple of different ways. Here is an example of SG breakdown by approach distance. If it is inside 50 yards (I have seen 60 used too) it falls in to the short game breakdown. 
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I don’t think you are an outlier. I see posts by lots of people that uses Arccos and other stat gathering platforms that enable some type of breakdown. Decade and some other platforms.

My issues; all personal:
1. I hate anything that requires interaction on the course. That includes shot editing or even writing down information to be collected later. If I am familiar with the course, I can recall most of the stat information.

2. I don’t like subscription based software. I prefer pay once and it is yours. I understand the subscription model for web based products since you are getting upgrades but that doesn’t mean I want to follow.

3. I have tried the spreadsheet based strokes gained approaches but lost interest due to how long it took to manually enter the info.
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42 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

That seems pretty detailed and would help develop a practice strategy if one were to focus on an area 

I am a numbers guy so I just like the knowledge, however it does allow me to practice specifically what I am struggling with. 

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5 minutes ago, cnosil said:


I don’t think you are an outlier. I see posts by lots of people that uses Arccos and other stat gathering platforms that enable some type of breakdown. Decade and some other platforms.

My issues; all personal:
1. I hate anything that requires interaction on the course. That includes shot editing or even writing down information to be collected later. If I am familiar with the course, I can recall most of the stat information.

2. I don’t like subscription based software. I prefer pay once and it is yours. I understand the subscription model for web based products since you are getting upgrades but that doesn’t mean I want to follow.

3. I have tried the spreadsheet based strokes gained approaches but lost interest due to how long it took to manually enter the info.

I can't fault you for any of that. I started with Arccos but I don't like how they calculate some of their SG. Also theirs is based off a scratch golfer's data compiled into their system. While it is good it is not great. 

I am working on a system with the good ole paper & pencil. Something that I can track as I am writing scores down. 

As far as the on course interaction I don't enjoy it either. I have gotten it down to just first putt distance and pin location on Arccos but it is annoying. 

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I am working on a system with the good ole paper & pencil. Something that I can track as I am writing scores down. 

I’d love to come up with some kind of shorthand notation that I could quickly jot down that gave me information that I could quickly enter when I got home.
I really want to know how many shots does it take me to get into the hole from various distances and what club I used. Basically strokes gained type information but not compared to other golfers. I want to know how “successful” I am with each club and from different distances.
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I used to but then I said F it, get the ball in the hole.

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I've kept various stats in the past for informational purposes on my play, but now I prefer to focus on my overall game and not spend much time fiddling with details.  I'm more interested in what I shoot than how many up/downs I have.  

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I use ShotScope, I picked this over Arccos because of lower cost, no subscription, and the ease to tag putts and pin locations with the watch to provide detailed putting and proximity stats. It doesn't break down Strokes Gained by area which is the only downside, but there is enough data to identify weaknesses. In my case I identified my biggest weakness is each area of my game from the data then developed a practice plan around it:

Putting - too many 3 putts FIX: ladder drill, lagging to targets
Short Game - improve up/down% FIX: get SW to match LW, develop wedge matrix from 20-80 yards in 10 yard increments. Miss greens in appropriate areas instead of automatically going for the green from 180+
Approach - major drops in proximity to pin at 90, 130 yards FIX: course manage to these distances, focus on mid irons
Driver - left miss (pulls/hooks) resulted in losing 0.5 strokes per hole compared to right miss (slice). FIX: extra driver focus, practice elements to lock-in a fade shape. Heavier driver shaft to slow hands. Implemented strength routine with target of 10 yard distance gain.

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I just started using DECADE this week. I’ve already gone through all of the month one videos, and I plan to rewatch them weekly if I have the time. 
 

I had a brief range session today and was working on two things:

  1. Alignment: understanding that if my target for a 6 iron was the 175 marker, then I truly need to pick my spot to the right (I play a draw) of that and then swing. For years I would assume a “straight” spot and not truly commit. 
  2. Consistency in routine: I don’t have one when I’m on the course. So for today I was practicing speaking my routine out loud for every single ball I hit. I was working on my turn so my routine was: “pick your spot, walk up to the ball, club down, check my spot, feet wide, check my spot, turn...” then boom I’d hit it. 

I had one of if not THE best range sessions of my life by making it much more focused. I’m looking forward to getting back out there for more. 
 

Any of you DECADE users, I’d love to chat. I’m in the foundations app now but would love to see/understand the value of Elite as I continue to progress. 

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2 hours ago, analyticandrew said:

I just started using DECADE this week. I’ve already gone through all of the month one videos, and I plan to rewatch them weekly if I have the time. 
 

I had a brief range session today and was working on two things:

  1. Alignment: understanding that if my target for a 6 iron was the 175 marker, then I truly need to pick my spot to the right (I play a draw) of that and then swing. For years I would assume a “straight” spot and not truly commit. 
  2. Consistency in routine: I don’t have one when I’m on the course. So for today I was practicing speaking my routine out loud for every single ball I hit. I was working on my turn so my routine was: “pick your spot, walk up to the ball, club down, check my spot, feet wide, check my spot, turn...” then boom I’d hit it. 

I had one of if not THE best range sessions of my life by making it much more focused. I’m looking forward to getting back out there for more. 
 

Any of you DECADE users, I’d love to chat. I’m in the foundations app now but would love to see/understand the value of Elite as I continue to progress. 

That sounds like a really great system! Definitely need to be committed to the time it takes to implement.


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Anyone else keep their putting stats? The only place I can compare myself to tour pros apples to apples is on the green. Tee to green is like apples to go carts.

Anyway, just started keeping “strokes gained” stats. How far away is my first putt? How many putts did it take to hole out. I enter those for each hole after the round, and compare how I did to what the average tour pro did from those distances.

Spreadsheet calculates it automatically after I input the data.

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