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Controversial - PING: BLADES dont make you a better ball striker. Smaller sweet spots do.

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Just a rant on here on release day.

When you know, you know. I’m sure I could play just as bad with a SSSSSSGI set or a 1980 Set of Noelrthwesterns.

My game will be when I get back out there.

Yeah it’s been a rough few rounds so far. Some good shots too but I definitely am struggling to find the bottom of swing consistently. Downside of not hitting balls for a few months but still swinging outside. Surprisingly I’ve been ok directionally. Not too many big curving balls.


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I’m gonna be hitting 320 balls in a day lol 2 balls 2 clubs per hole jk I’m not gonna put everyone through that....or am I?

Haha ok. I’ll put you in the second group then.


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Wow that video was awesome. So much goes into making those clubs. Very interesting stuff about face closure. Explains why I feel more consistent with my swing with smaller profile clubs.

Man I should have studied engineering and physics.


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Yeah, also adds to why Rickie likes credit card sized clubheads perhaps?

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Yeah, also adds to why Rickie likes credit card sized clubheads perhaps?


Maybe he’s on to something.

But credit card sized is being generous unless you only mean the top line. Can he even miss by more than a half ball without missing the face completely?


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5 minutes ago, B.Boston said:


Maybe he’s on to something.

But credit card sized is being generous unless you only mean the top line. Can he even miss by more than a half ball without missing the face completely?


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Yea about that.....I would be worried about cutting a ball in half0385C3E3-B222-4647-81EC-2482EF8602EB.thumb.png.5a65ef110c2a2609318691ae8b9d5322.png

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Yea about that.....I would be worried about cutting a ball in half0385C3E3-B222-4647-81EC-2482EF8602EB.thumb.png.5a65ef110c2a2609318691ae8b9d5322.png


That even gives me the chills... good grief.
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Maybe he’s on to something.

But credit card sized is being generous unless you only mean the top line. Can he even miss by more than a half ball without missing the face completely?


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Makes you wonder... do these actually give him the best opportunity to play his best.

Obviously an elite player... but hey Tom Morris would love those things
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1 minute ago, Shankster said:

 


Makes you wonder... do these actually give him the best opportunity to play his best.

Obviously an elite player... but hey Tom Morris would love those things

 

I cannot imagine playing something like that, when you pure it does it even feel good? I have personally never hit a blade other then some wedges so. 
also wouldn’t you want even the slightest forgiveness? Even a little? Like you said the blueprints were fairly forgiving for a blade, these things just look rough

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I cannot imagine playing something like that, when you pure it does it even feel good? I have personally never hit a blade other then some wedges so. 
also wouldn’t you want even the slightest forgiveness? Even a little? Like you said the blueprints were fairly forgiving for a blade, these things just look rough


I actually prefer the feeling of a pured CB.

More specifically the Mizuno MMC... 18’ version.

The Blueprints are pretty smooth for sure, but I like that hot off the face feeling.
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Waiting patiently for @Shanksterto realize the BP's are simply too much club for him and see them in our classifieds 🤣.  As for the video, I'd really like to see some actual ball strike zone data comparing a scratch (pure striker), with a low and mid handicap players.  of particular interest is the data on a scratch/pure stiker. Not doubting the premise, but when I think about the rather small size of my PE2's to the  G410's (yes hard to believe), I often wonder if they forced me to be a more accurate ball striker - and that the improved dispersion and distance I see is just the technology and more aggressive loft. 

 

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Waiting patiently for [mention=69396]Shankster[/mention]to realize the BP's are simply too much club for him and see them in our classifieds 🤣.  As for the video, I'd really like to see some actual ball strike zone data comparing a scratch (pure striker), with a low and mid handicap players.  of particular interest is the data on a scratch/pure stiker. Not doubting the premise, but when I think about the rather small size of my PE2's to the  G410's (yes hard to believe), I often wonder if they forced me to be a more accurate ball striker - and that the improved dispersion and distance I see is just the technology and more aggressive loft. 
 


As promised, I will be holding on to the Blueprints. Or if I change sets have to find someone on here that won’t pawn them...

Here I am again standing in my room looking at the beauties.... IMG_7774.JPG
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Just hit a 7, PW and driver out in the yard...

I need to go play. It’s all just... working?

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yes rickys clubs are small but remember the mass is big in that molecule of a sweet spot. So a pure hit would be as close to ecstasy one could achieve with their clothes on.

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On 5/30/2020 at 7:01 AM, Lacassem said:

Yea about that.....I would be worried about cutting a ball in half0385C3E3-B222-4647-81EC-2482EF8602EB.thumb.png.5a65ef110c2a2609318691ae8b9d5322.png

Looks like my old 2i... 

 

 

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I think it's pretty logical.  Just think about the tour striker or similar training aides, they aren't doing anything revolutionary, just forcing you to compress the ball and hit the sweet spot. Blades are essentially making you do the same thing, just figure out how to hit the ball in the sweet spot more often.  The key as always is practice, you can't buy blades play once a month (or use a training aide once a month) and think your ball striking will just get better over time.


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Just hit a 7, PW and driver out in the yard...

I need to go play. It’s all just... working?




Nope... why is it that I can center the ball with deadly accuracy one day. Thin the crap out of them the next, fat them the day after that, hook them the next, slice the day after tomorrow. Then smack the toe constantly another day?

Or maybe that was all today... golf club just felt weird in my hands.

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On 5/29/2020 at 3:08 PM, El Chivo said:

What are your thoughts on this? Not sure if this has been published but PING conducted a study that good/great ballstrikers reduced their offline yardage closer to the centerline the smalle the blade length/smaller the sweet spots. 

Any truth to this? IMO I have seen a noted improvement from shovels to players cbs....I want to move into mbs....they just feel great and I can trap the ball better.

Ran into this a couple weeks ago when I got fitted for new irons.  Started with PING G410s and I was all over the place...moved into i210 and i500 and hit the ball much more consistently.  My fitter said that he had noticed that as well...or he heard it from the PING guy and said he noticed it. 😀


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On 6/5/2020 at 4:06 PM, Chuckster said:

Ran into this a couple weeks ago when I got fitted for new irons.  Started with PING G410s and I was all over the place...moved into i210 and i500 and hit the ball much more consistently.  My fitter said that he had noticed that as well...or he heard it from the PING guy and said he noticed it. 😀

I wonder if there is a mental aspect. I have MP15s and titleist AP2, and an old set of nike vr cavities and I hit far more greens with the mizunos than the Ap2s and cavities. To me when I have a more bladed iron, I feel more like a surgeon and with a bigger thicker iron I feel like a butcher. 


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On 5/30/2020 at 8:11 AM, Shankster said:

 


As promised, I will be holding on to the Blueprints. Or if I change sets have to find someone on here that won’t pawn them...

Here I am again standing in my room looking at the beauties.... IMG_7774.JPG

 

 

Those are some pretty looking clubs. I have a set of iBlades presently. Can't believe they are already 4 years old! 

 

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On 5/30/2020 at 9:11 AM, Shankster said:

Or if I change sets have to find someone on here that won’t pawn them...

That would be me... dibbs. 😇


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