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With the new standard of PW being 46, what are people's standard wedge set? also, what do people like to carry as their hybrids/woods?

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3 hours ago, Sookyoahn said:

With the new standard of PW being 46, what are people's standard wedge set? also, what do people like to carry as their hybrids/woods?

PW loft at 46* is still pretty normal by today's standards. I would go 50*, 54* and then 58* or 60*. There is a problem with stronger irons, where PW is 44* or even lower. In that case I would choose 48* gap wedge (preferably the same model as PW) and then 54* and 60* (note in my signature I have made a mistake in the past when choosing the lofts of my wedges). These are bigger gaps between shorter clubs than I would usually prefer but thats what you get when buying stronger lofted irons. The only other option I see is a 5 wedge setup (44, 48, 52, 56, 60) but I have never seen a set like this in the wild and I don't think I would go this way.

When it comes to woods and hybrids I think it really depends what loft of the lowest fairway wood one can play. If one has enough (but not too much) speed for a 15* fairway wood, then I would go 18* 5 wood or 18-19* hybrid and then something like 22-23* 4 hybrid/iron (depends on the loft and distance of the longest iron). Unfortunately many of us don't have enough speed to effectively play 15* fairway wood from the turf so the better option becomes something like 4 or strong 5 wood (16,5-17*) as the longest wood in the bag. From then sensible gapping is something like 20/21* hybrid etc. At least in my experience and opinion...

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I always carry 45*, 50*, 56* and usually a 60* - all low bounce except the 56* I use in greenside traps. Maybe I should, but I rarely use my 56* (too much bounce) or 60* (too easy to “blade”) for full swing approach shots. I use my GW from 105 yds and in and I bump and run an 8i around greens whenever possible. Not suggesting everyone should do as I do (probably not), but how you use your wedges factors in to what wedges you might want. You might enjoy the wedge selection article link below.

I’m not a fan of hybrids, when I do carry my 3H 19*, my 60* or 3i come out of my bag. My 3i and 3H carry the same, the 3H just flies a little higher and lands a little softer, but they’re almost interchangeable for me. The wide sole advantage of a hybrid just doesn’t come into play that often for me.

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My PW is 46; added 51, 54, 58

Hybrids are 19, 21, 24

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Play my PW at 46* and then wedges in 50*, 54* and 58*. I only carry one hybrid and that is at 19* and then move to a 23* four iron. Used to carry two hybrids and wedges that were 52*, 58* and 64* but rarely used the 64*.


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I have a 50*, 56* and 60* degree wedge, also use a 14* 3 wood and a 19* hybrid.

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Hybrid: :titelist-small: TS3 - 19*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff
Irons: :titelist-small:  5 - PW T150, with Nippon Zelos 7 Reg, 4 iron - U505 with Project X HZRDUS Black Stiff

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With the new standard of PW being 46, what are people's standard wedge set? also, what do people like to carry as their hybrids/woods?

My PW is 45, Gap at 48 then 52, 56 and 60.


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I used to carry a 20* hybrid but the love faded.

My current set up is a 15* fairway wood followed by a 4 iron. The 790 UDI replaces the 3 wood on some days.

Wedges are PXG 0211 45* then Cleveland RTX 50, 56 and 60. There is too much of a gap between my pitching wedge and my 50 degree, ideally I would weaken all my irons by a degree or a bit more.

Driver: image.jpeg.34eaee8382f091fe0a3c22d07a128f3d.jpeg TS2 10.5* A-1 Tensai AV 55 Stiff

3 Wood: image.jpeg.e516c276ea3badda924b599efc74dc44.jpeg Epic BB Sub Zero Fujikura Pro 62 Stiff

Driving Iron: image.jpeg.693c1038c87ba93f656427286d5ff6c6.jpeg P790 UDI Project X, Hzrdus 85g

Irons: image.jpeg.b7214da2fa3cda117f55d5a1eca9bfdc.jpeg 0211 4-PW Elevate 95 Stiff

Wedges: image.jpeg.eefc27879a3aeb4584a2da0c9fc3cc61.jpeg RTX 4. 50, 56, 60 degrees

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On 6/2/2020 at 2:54 AM, Calvo90 said:

PW loft at 46* is still pretty normal by today's standards. I would go 50*, 54* and then 58* or 60*. There is a problem with stronger irons, where PW is 44* or even lower. In that case I would choose 48* gap wedge (preferably the same model as PW) and then 54* and 60* (note in my signature I have made a mistake in the past when choosing the lofts of my wedges). These are bigger gaps between shorter clubs than I would usually prefer but thats what you get when buying stronger lofted irons. The only other option I see is a 5 wedge setup (44, 48, 52, 56, 60) but I have never seen a set like this in the wild and I don't think I would go this way.

When it comes to woods and hybrids I think it really depends what loft of the lowest fairway wood one can play. If one has enough (but not too much) speed for a 15* fairway wood, then I would go 18* 5 wood or 18-19* hybrid and then something like 22-23* 4 hybrid/iron (depends on the loft and distance of the longest iron). Unfortunately many of us don't have enough speed to effectively play 15* fairway wood from the turf so the better option becomes something like 4 or strong 5 wood (16,5-17*) as the longest wood in the bag. From then sensible gapping is something like 20/21* hybrid etc. At least in my experience and opinion...

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Fairway: Cobra F9 14.5 (HZRDUS smoke Yellow 6.5)

Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 (mitsubishi ck pro white 90 X)

Irons: Mizuno MP 59 (kbs c-taper X)

Wedges: Callaway MD4 ( True Temper S200)

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16 hours ago, Martinjfs said:

I used to carry a 20* hybrid but the love faded.

My current set up is a 15* fairway wood followed by a 4 iron. The 790 UDI replaces the 3 wood on some days.

Wedges are PXG 0211 45* then Cleveland RTX 50, 56 and 60. There is too much of a gap between my pitching wedge and my 50 degree, ideally I would weaken all my irons by a degree or a bit more.

awesome. Just got he RTX4. How do you like them?

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Fairway: Cobra F9 14.5 (HZRDUS smoke Yellow 6.5)

Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 (mitsubishi ck pro white 90 X)

Irons: Mizuno MP 59 (kbs c-taper X)

Wedges: Callaway MD4 ( True Temper S200)

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22 hours ago, tony@CIC said:


My PW is 45, Gap at 48 then 52, 56 and 60.


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how do you like your g410 driver?

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Fairway: Cobra F9 14.5 (HZRDUS smoke Yellow 6.5)

Hybrid: Titleist 818 H1 (mitsubishi ck pro white 90 X)

Irons: Mizuno MP 59 (kbs c-taper X)

Wedges: Callaway MD4 ( True Temper S200)

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I have a 19* Hybrid, my 4i is 22*. I then have a 45* PW, which is part of a new set, and I still have my wedges from my old set. Have a 52* CBX and a 56* RTX. I am playing one length now, so I will be switching to OL wedges as soon as the new ones drop next week. 

Driver: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 9.5

3 Wood: Cobra F9 Tour 13.5

3Hybrid: Cobra F9

4i-PW: Cobra King Forged One Length

52/56/60: Cleveland CBX

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2 minutes ago, Sookyoahn said:

how do you like your g410 driver?

Most consistent club in my bag. You'd have to pry..... well you get the idea. When I got fitted last year the Trackman showed it had the narrowest dispersion of any other driver and at least my set-up has a draw bias. That's pretty good coming from a major slicer. My stats for this year (22 rounds) = 76% fairways hit. 15% right and 9% left (FYI I'm a lefty). 

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PW is 45, also carry a 50 and 54. I have a 48 but I find that I have good distance control with the 45 and 50 that I did not use the 48 a great deal. Also hitting 1/2 -3/4 shot helps me control the amount of spin.

As far as hybrids, I have a 18 degree and my 3 wood is 15 degree.

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Callaway Epic Flash 3 wood 15 Degree

Callaway Apex 21 Hybrid 19 Degree

Callaway Steelhead Pro 4-AW Irons

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16 hours ago, Sookyoahn said:

awesome. Just got he RTX4. How do you like them?

I have been using Cleveland wedges for years now and really like these. Very good stopping power. I almost always play with a square face, even out of bunkers and they do the trick. All are medium bounce.

I may reduce the loft of my PW and increase the 50 by a degree to close the gap a bit, or go with a GW that is the same as my irons and get Clevelands that give me the correct gapping.

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Driver: image.jpeg.34eaee8382f091fe0a3c22d07a128f3d.jpeg TS2 10.5* A-1 Tensai AV 55 Stiff

3 Wood: image.jpeg.e516c276ea3badda924b599efc74dc44.jpeg Epic BB Sub Zero Fujikura Pro 62 Stiff

Driving Iron: image.jpeg.693c1038c87ba93f656427286d5ff6c6.jpeg P790 UDI Project X, Hzrdus 85g

Irons: image.jpeg.b7214da2fa3cda117f55d5a1eca9bfdc.jpeg 0211 4-PW Elevate 95 Stiff

Wedges: image.jpeg.eefc27879a3aeb4584a2da0c9fc3cc61.jpeg RTX 4. 50, 56, 60 degrees

Putter: image.jpeg.5f24b023b8db3d017291f4cd9e670f90.jpeg Huntington Beach 11 

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My pitching wedge is 44.  My gap wedge (part of my iron set, not my wedges) is 48 bent to 49.  My wedges are 54 and 58.

I start with a 6 iron and then have 21 and 25 degree hybrids.

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Good questions - my PW is 45, I currently game 48,52,58 and 3,5,7,9 woods.

 

I was fit for 5,7, 9 wood and 48,52,56,60.

Oddly my short game improved by pulling the wedge but honestly there is very little difference in distance between the 3 and 5 wood. I’m seriously considering going back to what I was fit for knowing that 52 is the boss around the green with 56 around only for 80 yard and long bunker shots.

 

According to ARCCOS I’m a scratch golfer with the 52. According to my friends I’m a thief. :)

 

I would ask who has been fit for those two ends of the bag?

 

 

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