Sirchunks blade experiment and restoration

[Rickp]

Took the Hogan's out for their maiden run on the driving range today and I've got to say, I'm impressed. 
They're some of the most repeatable clubs I've ever hit, I was hitting a pretty consistent fade with them and the distances on my good hits were consistent. I knew if I hit one 125 with a 10 yard fade, the next one was going to do the same thing. 
The sound was more muted than I'm used to, but that's not a bad thing. Just a nice, relatively subtle click and the ball was in the air. The grips were a bit weird as they taper from bottom to top and are quite a bit bigger around my bottom hand than I'm used to. I bought some beautiful, white Lambkin's from [mention=291]chisag[/mention] that are going to look amazing on them, if I can keep them clean. 
My work schedule is brutal the next two weeks, 9-10 hours a day for six days a week. Not much in the way of time off, but I hope I can get a round in with them soon. 

I’m sure you’ll have fun with those


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[sirchunksalot]

7 minutes ago, BIG STU said:

You will love those sticks for sure. I don't normally like cart bags as SOP for me but yours is sharp!!!!

Thank you! I tend to ride more than walk, especially in the summer and it checks all the boxes for me. I really hello in love with it when I saw it came in a camo pattern with the red accents. I need to find a stand bag to store some of the too many sets of clubs I'm getting. 

5 minutes ago, Rickp said:

I’m sure you’ll have fun with those


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I had a lot of fun on the range today with them, they're just a pleasure to hit. Hopefully I can carry that feeling on to the course. 

[cnosil]

1 hour ago, sirchunksalot said:

Took the Hogan's out for their maiden run on the driving range today and I've got to say, I'm impressed. 

They're some of the most repeatable clubs I've ever hit, I was hitting a pretty consistent fade with them and the distances on my good hits were consistent. I knew if I hit one 125 with a 10 yard fade, the next one was going to do the same thing. 

The sound was more muted than I'm used to, but that's not a bad thing. Just a nice, relatively subtle click and the ball was in the air. The grips were a bit weird as they taper from bottom to top and are quite a bit bigger around my bottom hand than I'm used to. I bought some beautiful, white Lambkin's from @chisag that are going to look amazing on them, if I can keep them clean. 

My work schedule is brutal the next two weeks, 9-10 hours a day for six days a week. Not much in the way of time off, but I hope I can get a round in with them soon. 

They look great in that bag and you got a great deal on those grips.   

[sirchunksalot]

40 minutes ago, cnosil said:

They look great in that bag and you got a great deal on those grips.   

I couldn't turn those grips down, they were such a great price. I told my wife about possibly buying them and she asked why I hadn't already. You weren't kidding when you said the clubs felt great, they are a joy to hit. 

[edingc]

They look awesome in that bag. Fit right in with the new Vokeys and the Epic Flash.

I have a set of Hogan Edge CFT heads from around that same time frame sitting in the basement. Not blades at all. My goal this winter is to get them built up and get them to someone as a starter set.

[sirchunksalot]

2 minutes ago, edingc said:

They look awesome in that bag. Fit right in with the new Vokeys and the Epic Flash.

I have a set of Hogan Edge CFT heads from around that same time frame sitting in the basement. Not blades at all. My goal this winter is to get them built up and get them to someone as a starter set.

The CFT's look like they have a lot of weight down low and would be perfect for someone as a beginner set to help them get airborne. That's a nice thing to do, Cody. I hope you can find someone who will get years of enjoyment out of them. 

[BIG STU]

11 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

Thank you! I tend to ride more than walk, especially in the summer and it checks all the boxes for me. I really hello in love with it when I saw it came in a camo pattern with the red accents. I need to find a stand bag to store some of the too many sets of clubs I'm getting. 

I had a lot of fun on the range today with them, they're just a pleasure to hit. Hopefully I can carry that feeling on to the course. 

The best thing for a storage bag cheap is hit up a Goodwill or yard sale

[cnosil]

The best thing for a storage bag cheap is hit up a Goodwill or yard sale

I think he is learning all about the joys of finding clubs at the thrift stores

[golfertrb]

Sir Chunks - I'm sorry to be so slow to this thread but man those irons look sweet - good job!


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[golfertrb]

And I'm not surprised you enjoyed hitting them - good stuff


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[MyWifesSwingCoach]

Same as @golfertrb I am a little late to this thread...

That set looks really great, what do you all think of this Mac set i saw on the goodwill shop site?

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/105009120#shipping-tab

These are the most bladed blades I have ever seen! I really wish I could go after these just for the challenge of restoring and playing them.

[sirchunksalot]

2 hours ago, MyWifesSwingCoach said:

Same as @golfertrb I am a little late to this thread...

That set looks really great, what do you all think of this Mac set i saw on the goodwill shop site?

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/105009120#shipping-tab

These are the most bladed blades I have ever seen! I really wish I could go after these just for the challenge of restoring and playing them.

Those look almost scary thin on the sole, but I bet they'd clean up pretty nice for someone. That's a pretty good price on it with just about ten hours to go considering the woods look to be in decent shape and it has a bag and putter,  too. I'm not saying you should buy it, but you should buy it. 

[HardcoreLooper]

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/105453903

I already have a set of Mac Muirfields, so someone else needs to grab these.  There's also a pretty nice looking set of Hogan Apex woods, but they don't show the toe, and I won't buy a Hogan wood without a Speed Slot.  I picked up a really pretty dark blond Hogan driver and 3 wood with the Speed Slot not too long ago.

Maybe a persimmons-and-blades challenge is in order.

[sirchunksalot]

7 minutes ago, HardcoreLooper said:

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/105453903

I already have a set of Mac Muirfields, so someone else needs to grab these.  There's also a pretty nice looking set of Hogan Apex woods, but they don't show the toe, and I won't buy a Hogan wood without a Speed Slot.  I picked up a really pretty dark blond Hogan driver and 3 wood with the Speed Slot not too long ago.

Maybe a persimmons-and-blades challenge is in order.

Those look good, Jack's signature on the back give them such a classy look. A little elbow grease and some new grips would have those looking nice. 

[3ironpunch]

All these old blades look totally fantastic. I always wanted to hit my grandfathers Wilson Staff blades from the late 60’s but I was not allowed. I’m sure that is normal and I am certainly not the ball striker he was so it was totally fine. Skip ahead 35 or so years. I would never think of hitting his Staff’s although I am sure there is still magic left in them. But I did score a full set of 1972 Wilson Staff Button Backs with the woods. I have always planned to try a restore and maybe game them. I will keep an eye on this thread in case there is a classic bag challenge


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[sirchunksalot]

39 minutes ago, 3ironpunch said:

All these old blades look totally fantastic. I always wanted to hit my grandfathers Wilson Staff blades from the late 60’s but I was not allowed. I’m sure that is normal and I am certainly not the ball striker he was so it was totally fine. Skip ahead 35 or so years. I would never think of hitting his Staff’s although I am sure there is still magic left in them. But I did score a full set of 1972 Wilson Staff Button Backs with the woods. I have always planned to try a restore and maybe game them. I will keep an eye on this thread in case there is a classic bag challenge


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I would encourage you to restore and play some with them. Those Button Back irons are lookers and I think you'd have a great time with them. 

[HardcoreLooper]

On 10/11/2020 at 6:21 PM, 3ironpunch said:

I will keep an eye on this thread in case there is a classic bag challenge

I'd be all in for a classic bag challenge.  We're running out of season for our friends in the northeast and midwest, but even if those of us in milder climates did one now as a test run, that would be fun.  We can steal from what we've done with the Hard Rock Challenge if we're looking for ideas...

[sirchunksalot]

Ok guys, you've talked me into it. With the interest in the classic bag challenge, I will take @HardcoreLooper suggestion and do a trial run for those of us in warmer climates and then do a forum wide competition next year when the weather warms up. For those participating in the trial run there will be a prize. 

I will be using the scoring system that we used in the Hard Rock Challenge that takes into account handicap, course rating, and slope. 

A few things I'll need to iron out will be:

1.  How will we define a classic bag? Will we go with the standard for cars and place them at 20 years old or older?

2. Should we limit it to persimmon woods?

3. Putters? I'm almost willing to say use your gamer, or if you have an older model and want to use it. I don't know if everyone will have an older putter and don't want to make people go buy one specifically for this challenge.

4. Wedges? Same as putter, but I'm more than willing to limit these to whatever you have in your classic set. I'll be happy to use the set irons and PW for all the short game shots.

5. Will older CB's be allowed or should we just use players irons? 

I'll probably look to kick this off in early to mid November once the details are worked out. I do apologize to anyone who won't be able to play and I wish I would have jumped on this sooner to be more inclusive. I'll start a thread in the Arrange a Game with fellow spies thread by the end of next week. Any comments or suggestions are welcome, I've never done this before and will appreciate any input you guys have. 

[Rickp]

Ok guys, you've talked me into it. With the interest in the classic bag challenge, I will take [mention=54754]HardcoreLooper[/mention] suggestion and do a trial run for those of us in warmer climates and then do a forum wide competition next year when the weather warms up. For those participating in the trial run there will be a prize. 
I will be using the scoring system that we used in the Hard Rock Challenge that takes into account handicap, course rating, and slope. 
A few things I'll need to iron out will be:
1.  How will we define a classic bag? Will we go with the standard for cars and place them at 20 years old or older?
2. Should we limit it to persimmon woods?
3. Putters? I'm almost willing to say use your gamer, or if you have an older model and want to use it. I don't know if everyone will have an older putter and don't want to make people go buy one specifically for this challenge.
4. Wedges? Same as putter, but I'm more than willing to limit these to whatever you have in your classic set. I'll be happy to use the set irons and PW for all the short game shots.
5. Will older CB's be allowed or should we just use players irons? 
I'll probably look to kick this off in early to mid November once the details are worked out. I do apologize to anyone who won't be able to play and I wish I would have jumped on this sooner to be more inclusive. I'll start a thread in the Arrange a Game with fellow spies thread by the end of next week. Any comments or suggestions are welcome, I've never done this before and will appreciate any input you guys have. 

This should be interesting


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[HardcoreLooper]

In the words of Mike and Eli, "let's go, let's go!"  And if you're organizing the event, you earn the right to be the (benevolent) dictator.  But since you asked...

2 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

1.  How will we define a classic bag? Will we go with the standard for cars and place them at 20 years old or older?

2. Should we limit it to persimmon woods?

3. Putters? I'm almost willing to say use your gamer, or if you have an older model and want to use it. I don't know if everyone will have an older putter and don't want to make people go buy one specifically for this challenge.

4. Wedges? Same as putter, but I'm more than willing to limit these to whatever you have in your classic set. I'll be happy to use the set irons and PW for all the short game shots.

5. Will older CB's be allowed or should we just use players irons? 

1.  I'm good with that, but it does permit clubs born in this millennium.  So there's that.  I'd also let someone play a set of National Custom Works or Miura Baby Blades.  But if you bought either of those new/full retail, you have to give all other competitors $100.

2.  I'd say laminates are good as well.  But you're probably talking about metal woods.  You're not at 460CC drivers yet in 2000, but there's a pretty big difference between a 350CC metal wood and actual wood.  Here's two cut-off years we could consider:

1997 - Last year of significant wooden driver use on tour (11 players, 43 events).

1993 - Last major won with a wooden driver (Bernhard Langer, The Masters).

3.  Maybe we give a bonus for golfers using a putter that's > 20 years old.  I don't want to disqualify anyone for not having a classic putter.

4.  Again, how about a bonus for the classics?  A blade wedge with new grooves is very different from an old Hogan Special or a Wilson R-90.

5.  If we go cavity backs, I foresee a set of Hogan Edges or TA 845s in my future.

How about a bonus for vintage balls as well?

[sirchunksalot]

20 hours ago, HardcoreLooper said:

In the words of Mike and Eli, "let's go, let's go!"  And if you're organizing the event, you earn the right to be the (benevolent) dictator.  But since you asked...

1.  I'm good with that, but it does permit clubs born in this millennium.  So there's that.  I'd also let someone play a set of National Custom Works or Miura Baby Blades.  But if you bought either of those new/full retail, you have to give all other competitors $100.

2.  I'd say laminates are good as well.  But you're probably talking about metal woods.  You're not at 460CC drivers yet in 2000, but there's a pretty big difference between a 350CC metal wood and actual wood.  Here's two cut-off years we could consider:

1997 - Last year of significant wooden driver use on tour (11 players, 43 events).

1993 - Last major won with a wooden driver (Bernhard Langer, The Masters).

3.  Maybe we give a bonus for golfers using a putter that's > 20 years old.  I don't want to disqualify anyone for not having a classic putter.

4.  Again, how about a bonus for the classics?  A blade wedge with new grooves is very different from an old Hogan Special or a Wilson R-90.

5.  If we go cavity backs, I foresee a set of Hogan Edges or TA 845s in my future.

How about a bonus for vintage balls as well?

Thanks for the input, I hadn't thought about the fact that metal woods might be an option so I think I'll limit it to wood or laminate. I also think it should be blades only, since the idea was born in a thread about blade restoration. Plus, it'll be more challenging and fun. The cold factor plays into this, too. I live in a climate that allows golf all year but the temps in November and December can get a bit chilly and the competitors description of mis hitting a solid piece of metal should be good. 

I like your ideas for bonuses for putters over 20 and think I'll use that. Just have to figure out what the bonus will be. I think I'll stay with classic wedges, most sets come with at least a PW and hopefully by keeping them older it'll inspire some creativity. 

I appreciate you bouncing ideas with me, it helps getting a perspective from another point of view. 

[HardcoreLooper]

3 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

Thanks for the input, I hadn't thought about the fact that metal woods might be an option so I think I'll limit it to wood or laminate. I also think it should be blades only, since the idea was born in a thread about blade restoration. Plus, it'll be more challenging and fun. The cold factor plays into this, too. I live in a climate that allows golf all year but the temps in November and December can get a bit chilly and the competitors description of mis hitting a solid piece of metal should be good. 

I like your ideas for bonuses for putters over 20 and think I'll use that. Just have to figure out what the bonus will be. I think I'll stay with classic wedges, most sets come with at least a PW and hopefully by keeping them older it'll inspire some creativity. 

I appreciate you bouncing ideas with me, it helps getting a perspective from another point of view. 

I'm good with everything you have there.  And since classic PWs have quite a bit of loft, it's not as bad as trying to get round with nothing shorter than a PW in a modern set.  I have the set SW for my Muirfields, and it's barely got a sole at all.  

 

If any Richmond, VA spies want to play but don't have clubs, I can make up at least two and maybe three full sets with what I have in the garage (except for SWs - my second classic SW will be here in a week).

 

[deejaid]

Sounds like you guys are are getting the classic club itch. . I’ll definitely participate, it’s just another normal day of golf for me.


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[HardcoreLooper]

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/105774110

Someone please buy these before I do.  It's not that a second set of Hogans will be too many, but my wife might make me stop before I find a set of redlines on the cheap.

@sirchunksalot - Do we need to post pics of the bag?

[MyWifesSwingCoach]

1 hour ago, HardcoreLooper said:

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/105774110

Someone please buy these before I do.  It's not that a second set of Hogans will be too many, but my wife might make me stop before I find a set of redlines on the cheap.

@sirchunksalot - Do we need to post pics of the bag?

How hard would it be to restore those faces?

[sirchunksalot]

6 hours ago, HardcoreLooper said:

https://www.shopgoodwill.com/Item/105774110

Someone please buy these before I do.  It's not that a second set of Hogans will be too many, but my wife might make me stop before I find a set of redlines on the cheap.

@sirchunksalot - Do we need to post pics of the bag?

I would say that posting pictures is not required, but would be appreciated. I'm always up for seeing photos of classic clubs, they just don't make them as pretty as they used to in a lot of instances. 

Those Hogan's look nice and would make someone a nice restoration set. I need to hit up the thrift store or eBay to see if I can find a SW, I've been looking for a while and haven't found one yet. 

[HardcoreLooper]

9 hours ago, MyWifesSwingCoach said:

How hard would it be to restore those faces?

It looks like @sirchunksalot is doing wonders with Barkeeper's Friend, steel wool, and elbow grease. 

[Rickp]

It looks like [mention=80128]sirchunksalot[/mention] is doing wonders with Barkeeper's Friend, steel wool, and elbow grease. 

Yup, he’s Killin it!


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[sirchunksalot]

8 hours ago, HardcoreLooper said:

It looks like @sirchunksalot is doing wonders with Barkeeper's Friend, steel wool, and elbow grease. 

I gotta give the credit to @deejaid for the advice on how to get them looking good, he's the man! I actually find out to be therapeutic to sit and clean up old clubs, there's just something about the rhythm of it I like. 

 

6 hours ago, Rickp said:

Yup, he’s Killin it!


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I appreciate it and all the support you guys have given me, it means a lot. 

As far as the challenge, I pretty much have most of it figured out and will be creating the thread in Sunday. Unfortunately, work is taking up most of my time this week and I'll be back there tomorrow. On the bright side, the extra money leads to potentially more golf stuff. 

The only thing I'm left to figure out is the bonus for using a putter that's over 20. Right now I'm thinking either an extra half to full stroke or a mulligan. Thoughts? 

 

[deejaid]

[mention]sirchunksalot [/mention] I’m just always excited to see someone take interest in the classic clubs and hope to help them learn more about the classic game.

 

 

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