El Chivo Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I have no absolutes after finally learning how to win. Biggest change for me was my mind. I didnt wake up thinking about score. Or how many birdies or what holes to take advantage of....BECAUSE I've never seen it before in my life! I tried to play spontaneously.....if a palm or a spot in the fairway caught my attention I tried to feel with my hands and mind where I needed to hit it. I had a tremendous level of awareness but nothing at all like a zone.....I WAS STILL THINKING OVER EVERY SHOT. I'm curious about what you guys that perform at a high level use. That is different than 'one shot at a time.' Cobra RadSpeed,Set 8.5 Callway BB 4W 15* Cobra Forged Tec 18* Cobra Forged Tec 2020 4-GW , 4*Flat, Standard SW: RTX 54* LW: Full Face RTX 58* Scotty Cameron Putter: NP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I'm confused as to how playing spontaneously is not playing 1 shot at a time, especially if you were thinking of a target score or holes to attack. It seems like what you describe is very much about being in the moment and playing 1 shot at a time to a specific target. G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavygolffeels Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Yeah. Sounds like you were thinking one shot at a time. No overall game plan to conquer the course. Not predetermining anything and getting frustrated when it didnt go to plan. Just stepping to the shot, looking over the surroundings, picking your play, committing to it, and then striking the ball to the best of your abilities (hopefully). GARSEN GRIP TESTER Driver: PING G400 MAX, Ventus Blue 6x Woods: COBRA F6 Baffler AD DI 8S Hybrid: CALLAWAY Apex Pro, Ventus Blue 8s Irons: SRIXON ZX5 mk2 5-6, ZX7 mk2 7-PW, Modus 120x Wedges: EDEL 50 C grind, 54 V grind, CLEVELAND 60 RTX6 Low Putter: YES Abbie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chivo Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 20 hours ago, scooterhd2 said: Yeah. Sounds like you were thinking one shot at a time. No overall game plan to conquer the course. Not predetermining anything and getting frustrated when it didnt go to plan. Just stepping to the shot, looking over the surroundings, picking your play, committing to it, and then striking the ball to the best of your abilities (hopefully). I would say that the term "one shot at a time" vs "spontaneous" is a new spin on it. One shot at a time vs. One hole at a time. I saw the hole from the green back to the tee....I wanted to paint what I wanted to score.... and yes probably the most important part was removing any emotions from the outocome. I wanted to make the most beautiful/fundamentally sound swing I could for each shot. I have two swing thoughts per type of shot required(putt/chip/pitch/knockdown/full). Hard to describe I could only find maybe two books that talk about this....most golf psychology books are full of anecdotes but none delve into the actual routines. Cobra RadSpeed,Set 8.5 Callway BB 4W 15* Cobra Forged Tec 18* Cobra Forged Tec 2020 4-GW , 4*Flat, Standard SW: RTX 54* LW: Full Face RTX 58* Scotty Cameron Putter: NP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chivo Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 11:39 AM, BMart519 said: I'm confused as to how playing spontaneously is not playing 1 shot at a time, especially if you were thinking of a target score or holes to attack. It seems like what you describe is very much about being in the moment and playing 1 shot at a time to a specific target. Spontaneously for me: meant to pick targets/swings/clubs based on as much info as I could process in order to not allow any other thoughts in there. The term 1 shot placed too much importance on a single shot for me. Maybe 1 shot at a time leaves out too much. For me it was drink in the experience. Example: Game changer mentally. I had 220 into a par 5 over a creek into a kidney shaped green, ball below my feet, not the greatest of lies in the fairway probably 90/100, meaning I needed to hit a squeeze cut about a ball back of normal, just enough to compress it a little bit more, wind was blowing right to left, right before pulling the club back I thought IF i hit it at 85% of max it will easily get there and wont go over because its only 210 to the front and will release a bit but not so much that it will roll thru since my fade was being knocked down a touch since the yardage played closer to 235, which is my stock 2 hybird anyway. (this all took place within 15-20 seconds before standing over the shot). Very WOO WOO but its probably why most dont talk about it so openly. Cobra RadSpeed,Set 8.5 Callway BB 4W 15* Cobra Forged Tec 18* Cobra Forged Tec 2020 4-GW , 4*Flat, Standard SW: RTX 54* LW: Full Face RTX 58* Scotty Cameron Putter: NP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chivo Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 11:39 AM, BMart519 said: I'm confused as to how playing spontaneously is not playing 1 shot at a time, especially if you were thinking of a target score or holes to attack. It seems like what you describe is very much about being in the moment and playing 1 shot at a time to a specific target. If I play 1 shot at a time it sees to make me more concerned about execution that about playing conditions....not sure if that clarifies it a bit. Cobra RadSpeed,Set 8.5 Callway BB 4W 15* Cobra Forged Tec 18* Cobra Forged Tec 2020 4-GW , 4*Flat, Standard SW: RTX 54* LW: Full Face RTX 58* Scotty Cameron Putter: NP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Spontaneously for me: meant to pick targets/swings/clubs based on as much info as I could process in order to not allow any other thoughts in there. The term 1 shot placed too much importance on a single shot for me. Maybe 1 shot at a time leaves out too much. For me it was drink in the experience. Example: Game changer mentally. I had 220 into a par 5 over a creek into a kidney shaped green, ball below my feet, not the greatest of lies in the fairway probably 90/100, meaning I needed to hit a squeeze cut about a ball back of normal, just enough to compress it a little bit more, wind was blowing right to left, right before pulling the club back I thought IF i hit it at 85% of max it will easily get there and wont go over because its only 210 to the front and will release a bit but not so much that it will roll thru since my fade was being knocked down a touch since the yardage played closer to 235, which is my stock 2 hybird anyway. (this all took place within 15-20 seconds before standing over the shot). Very WOO WOO but its probably why most dont talk about it so openly.Sounds pretty much like one shot at a time to me. If it were “spontaneous” you wouldn’t do that analysis in you head, you would just grab a club and hit it. Not questioning what you are doing since that basically how I assess my shot; I am building a plan for that shot. Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Auditions ongoing Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2, Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chivo Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, cnosil said: Sounds pretty much like one shot at a time to me. If it were “spontaneous” you wouldn’t do that analysis in you head, you would just grab a club and hit it. Not questioning what you are doing since that basically how I assess my shot; I am building a plan for that shot. Building a plan implies preplanning....this isnt that. but agree to disagree. Cobra RadSpeed,Set 8.5 Callway BB 4W 15* Cobra Forged Tec 18* Cobra Forged Tec 2020 4-GW , 4*Flat, Standard SW: RTX 54* LW: Full Face RTX 58* Scotty Cameron Putter: NP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 What you have described is the essence of one shot at a time. It may be your interpretation of it or what you need to do to convince yourself to do it. However every post you have made on this thread is one shot at a time. Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, cnosil said: Not questioning what you are doing since that basically how I assess my shot; I am building a plan for that shot. 7 minutes ago, El Chivo said: Building a plan implies preplanning....this isnt that. but agree to disagree. I think you're saying the same thing in different ways. You make a decision on each shot based on an evaluation of the various conditions, layout, hazards and problems, weather, lie, etc., combined with your own patterns and abilities. The result of that decision is a club selection, an intended direction and shot shape. Call it a plan or not, its a decision. Then you attempt to make the shot that you've decided you want to try. Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Whatever you want to call it, congratulations on your win! Driver: Black Ops 12* with Cypher 50 5.0 Fairway: Black Ops 3 wood with Cypher 50 5.0 Hybrids: Black Ops 19* and 22* with Cypher 50 5.0 Irons: Gen6 6, 7, 8, 9, W, G with Cypher 50 5.0 Wedges: Sugar Daddy II 52* and 56* with Cypher 50 5.0 Putter: DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft @ 34" Ball: Tour, Chrome Tour, Pro V1 Other: C10 Bag, glove My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chivo Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, DaveP043 said: I think you're saying the same thing in different ways. You make a decision on each shot based on an evaluation of the various conditions, layout, hazards and problems, weather, lie, etc., combined with your own patterns and abilities. The result of that decision is a club selection, an intended direction and shot shape. Call it a plan or not, its a decision. Then you attempt to make the shot that you've decided you want to try. Yes....in the end its not so much what you call it...its the process right? Cobra RadSpeed,Set 8.5 Callway BB 4W 15* Cobra Forged Tec 18* Cobra Forged Tec 2020 4-GW , 4*Flat, Standard SW: RTX 54* LW: Full Face RTX 58* Scotty Cameron Putter: NP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chivo Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, CarlH said: Whatever you want to call it, congratulations on your win! Yes. And yet I've learned much more about myself in defeat....so true what they say. Cobra RadSpeed,Set 8.5 Callway BB 4W 15* Cobra Forged Tec 18* Cobra Forged Tec 2020 4-GW , 4*Flat, Standard SW: RTX 54* LW: Full Face RTX 58* Scotty Cameron Putter: NP2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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