#COBRACONNECT Challenge 4

[sirchunksalot]

2 minutes ago, edingc said:

 

Yup! The last few shots we went back to the C-Taper Lites just to be sure they were still working. Maybe it is just my familiarity with those shafts, but man, compared to the others I tried, I just launched these sooooo much better. That picture gives a good preview as to what kind of distance these clubs will generate.

I like the consistency you are showing with it, 175-182 is a pretty tight window. Plus, that yellow and black bag is nice!

[GolfSpy BOS]

After a couple of tough rounds I’ve spent the last 2 nights banging balls on SkyTrak with the single length irons. 4 hybrid arrived today and I frankly don’t get much more out of it than I do the 5 iron but I’ll take it to the course tomorrow for real golf. I feel like I am starting to dial these in and about 90% of all shots with the one lengths are starting online but SkyTrak tends to exaggerate draws so they are ending offline. I hope to test Arcoss tracking against Garmin watch tracking this weekend as well.


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Don’t get too comfortable before we play our match. I’ll want you to have an excuse!


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[Lacassem]

4 minutes ago, edingc said:

 

Yup! The last few shots we went back to the C-Taper Lites just to be sure they were still working. Maybe it is just my familiarity with those shafts, but man, compared to the others I tried, I just launched these sooooo much better. That picture gives a good preview as to what kind of distance these clubs will generate.

Yesssssss. That bag is so sweet.
Just to bring it around back to bruins sports. Had a kid locally remix to the bruins playoff. Actually halfway decent

 

[mikeanthony]

@Wedgie Argh ... from what you said and what I’ve read elsewhere, it seems like the 5 to 4 change is the line of demarcation. Can’t help but think that if the 4 iron/utility iron or hybrid along with the 3 utility iron or hybrid ... both being the same at an inch longer than the OL irons, would solve the distance gaping issue from the 5 going up to the 4, then up to the 3. 

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[edingc]

5 minutes ago, B.Boston said:

Wow we’re remarkably similar in spec. My AP2 have C-Taper lite and are 2 flat. Actually come to think of it I could probably easily be fit into those same specs except my driver loft would be higher.

Looks like you had a good time and found an awesome fitter!


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Yeah, that's one of the first things I thought of because I knew you also played the CTLs. Something about them just feels right when I hit them. I didn't mind the $-Tapers, either, but still not a competition numbers-wise.

My fitter was very good, well worth the time it took to drive there. He was very patient with me, and I felt like he actually was making changes with a specific goal in mind. I've had other experiences where it just felt like the fitter was just changing shafts and relying on Trackman to tell them if it was good/bad.

7 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

I like the consistency you are showing with it, 175-182 is a pretty tight window. Plus, that yellow and black bag is nice!

I was very happy with my iron swing today. Once I get the driver swing down, it's lights out for everyone else in this challenge .

[sirchunksalot]

1 minute ago, edingc said:

I was very happy with my iron swing today. Once I get the driver swing down, it's lights out for everyone else in this challenge 

I'm seeing 70's in your future. 

[GolfSpy BOS]

I was very happy with my iron swing today. Once I get the driver swing down, it's lights out for everyone else in this challenge .

I’ll say when I hit last week... I may be moving on from the CTLs... to a different Nippon shaft.


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[toehold57]

 

*** Loft-jacking aside, I saw some crazy ball speed numbers ***

 

I was waiting for someone to mention this. Earlier in the year I spent an afternoon at PGASS swinging different clubs. Every 7 iron they had.

 

When I picked up the Speedzones, I was hitting 200yd shots. 200yd 7 irons!!! And it was consistent, 10 shots all at or just above 200yds.

 

Everything else was 20yards shorter at best, some were a lot further back. I politely put the speed kings back on the rack.

 

 

 

 

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[Wedgie]

[mention=66781]Wedgie[/mention] Argh ... from what you said and what I’ve read elsewhere, it seems like the 5 to 4 change is the line of demarcation. Can’t help but think that if the 4 iron/utility iron or hybrid along with the 3 utility iron or hybrid ... both being the same at an inch longer than the OL irons, would solve the distance gaping issue from the 5 going up to the 4, then up to the 3. 

 

Let me see what I get on the course but I can see myself jumping from a one length 5 iron to a one length 3 hybrid and skipping the 4 altogether. I’ll try to get Arccos going so I get some data but according to my Garmin tracking I’m about 162 with my 5 iron and 193 with my 3 hybrid so the 4 may fit in between.

 

 

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[Wedgie]

Don’t get too comfortable before we play our match. I’ll want you to have an excuse!


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I’ll be gaming single length irons and a Top Flite golf ball. You are the one that should start considering excuses my friend.


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[GolfSpy BOS]

I’ll be gaming single length irons and a Top Flite golf ball. You are the one that should start considering excuses my friend.


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All I’ll have is “first time at the course” or something lame like that. Otherwise I’ll just have to man up.


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[newballcoach]

2 hours ago, edingc said:

I had the wonderful opportunity this afternoon to get fit for this challenge at Leading Edge Golf in Okemos, Michigan. I've stuck a few pictures below and will create a gallery later with a few more. I had an awesome time!

Josh, my fitter, spent several years fitting for PGA Tour players and is a member of an advisory board for Cobra, so I felt really comfortable from the get-go today, which made the nearly 90 minute drive for me worth it! (Another cool fact - he fits many of the local "celebrities," including several members of the Detroit Red Wings and various college coaches from many of Michigan's universities.) I really appreciated Josh was willing to talk numbers with me, as I am analytical by nature and also enjoy the various technologies employed by the heads, shafts, etc. Would I be a Spy if I didn't?!?

We started with the SpeedZone irons, and without giving too much away, they are very easy to look at and launch. Loft-jacking aside, I saw some crazy ball speed numbers with good spin and descent angles, and I wasn't even swinging my best. I cycled through all of the shafts Cobra offers in the SpeedZones, but none topped the KBS C-Taper Lites, the same shaft I already play in my Maltby PTMs. Something about those shafts really suit my swing, and I love the feeling I get from them. To be honest, the biggest surprise with the irons was how much I hated the Nippon Modus 105s. Just felt all wrong to me. 

This was the first time I've spent significant time on Trackman since my lessons over the past few months, and I was ecstatic to see my club path with my irons has improved a lot. Most swings are now neutral or slightly in-to-out, which led to a bunch of nice draws with the SpeedZone 7-iron I hit.

We then moved to the top of the bag, working through a few different combinations of hybrid lofts and shafts. I'm not a huge fan of hybrids, but I've found the Cobra hybrids seem to work pretty well for me. Josh was very careful to ensure that the combo we settled on didn't go left like so many hybrids can do.

Obviously, the SpeedZone driver and fairways woods were the biggest pieces of puzzle for the day. I wish I could say I striped a bunch of great shots with both, but the reality is my driver and fairway wood swings need a lot of work.

I am very steep with my wood swings, and generate a lot of spin. We cycled through a bunch of different head settings and shafts trying to knock that down and eventually settled on a tour length SpeedZone Xtreme, turned down to 7.5 degrees, with the Aldila Rogue Silver. I really liked the feel of the Rogue Silver and with a few tweaks I did start hitting some better shots. Just for fun we also cycled through some exotic shafts, and I'm now in love with the Fujikura Motore X...

The final specs I will be submitting to Cobra are:

Driver - Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme 9 Degree, Tour Length (44.5"), Aldila Rogue Silver 60 Stiff - Set to 7.5 Degrees
3 Wood - Cobra SpeedZone 14.5 Degree, -3/4", Aldila Rogue Silver 70 Stiff - Set to 13.5 Degrees
2 Hybrid  - Cobra SpeedZone, -1/2", UST Recoil 480 ESX F4
4-GW - Cobra SpeedZone, -1/2", 2 Degrees Flat, KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff
54, 58 Wedges - KING Black, Versatile Grind, 3 Degrees Flat (if that can be done), KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff (soft-stepped once)
Grips - Lamkin Sonar Cobra Connect

Overall, today was an extremely fun and rewarding day.

 

My man!

[Nunfa0]

@daviddvm have you seen this video?

This is what Bryson is using so maybe you should too....

[GolfSpy BOS]

[mention=86024]daviddvm[/mention] have you seen this video?
This is what Bryson is using so maybe you should too....

I watched that today, amazing how well he was hitting it with that jumbo grip.

I think [mention]daviddvm [/mention] should strongly consider that shaft for the competition


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[gavinski91]

1 hour ago, toehold57 said:

*** Loft-jacking aside, I saw some crazy ball speed numbers ***

I was waiting for someone to mention this. Earlier in the year I spent an afternoon at PGASS swinging different clubs. Every 7 iron they had.

When I picked up the Speedzones, I was hitting 200yd shots. 200yd 7 irons!!! And it was consistent, 10 shots all at or just above 200yds.

Everything else was 20yards shorter at best, some were a lot further back. I politely put the speed kings back on the rack.

There's so much more that goes into ball flight than club loft though - to be honest I'd be fine with gaining 20 yards across the board on all of my irons as long as I maintained similar descent angles.

[daviddvm]

37 minutes ago, Nunfa0 said:

@daviddvm have you seen this video?

This is what Bryson is using so maybe you should too....

Okay I'm changing my shafts to Texas ReBar with Jumbo grips,  But I'm not going to put on 40 pounds! I just lost 30 pounds last year!

 

[Nunfa0]

57 minutes ago, daviddvm said:

Okay I'm changing my shafts to Texas ReBar with Jumbo grips,  But I'm not going to put on 40 pounds! I just lost 30 pounds last year!

 

Excellent and because I'm a lefty I shall buy a 64* wedge and work my calves 24/7 so I too can hit High, Dirty, Sexy Bombs!!

[yungkory]

4 hours ago, edingc said:

I had the wonderful opportunity this afternoon to get fit for this challenge at Leading Edge Golf in Okemos, Michigan. I've stuck a few pictures below and will create a gallery later with a few more. I had an awesome time!

Josh, my fitter, spent several years fitting for PGA Tour players and is a member of an advisory board for Cobra, so I felt really comfortable from the get-go today, which made the nearly 90 minute drive for me worth it! (Another cool fact - he fits many of the local "celebrities," including several members of the Detroit Red Wings and various college coaches from many of Michigan's universities.) I really appreciated Josh was willing to talk numbers with me, as I am analytical by nature and also enjoy the various technologies employed by the heads, shafts, etc. Would I be a Spy if I didn't?!?

We started with the SpeedZone irons, and without giving too much away, they are very easy to look at and launch. Loft-jacking aside, I saw some crazy ball speed numbers with good spin and descent angles, and I wasn't even swinging my best. I cycled through all of the shafts Cobra offers in the SpeedZones, but none topped the KBS C-Taper Lites, the same shaft I already play in my Maltby PTMs. Something about those shafts really suit my swing, and I love the feeling I get from them. To be honest, the biggest surprise with the irons was how much I hated the Nippon Modus 105s. Just felt all wrong to me. 

This was the first time I've spent significant time on Trackman since my lessons over the past few months, and I was ecstatic to see my club path with my irons has improved a lot. Most swings are now neutral or slightly in-to-out, which led to a bunch of nice draws with the SpeedZone 7-iron I hit.

We then moved to the top of the bag, working through a few different combinations of hybrid lofts and shafts. I'm not a huge fan of hybrids, but I've found the Cobra hybrids seem to work pretty well for me. Josh was very careful to ensure that the combo we settled on didn't go left like so many hybrids can do.

Obviously, the SpeedZone driver and fairways woods were the biggest pieces of puzzle for the day. I wish I could say I striped a bunch of great shots with both, but the reality is my driver and fairway wood swings need a lot of work.

I am very steep with my wood swings, and generate a lot of spin. We cycled through a bunch of different head settings and shafts trying to knock that down and eventually settled on a tour length SpeedZone Xtreme, turned down to 7.5 degrees, with the Aldila Rogue Silver. I really liked the feel of the Rogue Silver and with a few tweaks I did start hitting some better shots. Just for fun we also cycled through some exotic shafts, and I'm now in love with the Fujikura Motore X...

The final specs I will be submitting to Cobra are:

Driver - Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme 9 Degree, Tour Length (44.5"), Aldila Rogue Silver 60 Stiff - Set to 7.5 Degrees
3 Wood - Cobra SpeedZone 14.5 Degree, -3/4", Aldila Rogue Silver 70 Stiff - Set to 13.5 Degrees
2 Hybrid  - Cobra SpeedZone, -1/2", UST Recoil 480 ESX F4
4-GW - Cobra SpeedZone, -1/2", 2 Degrees Flat, KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff
54, 58 Wedges - KING Black, Versatile Grind, 3 Degrees Flat (if that can be done), KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff (soft-stepped once)
Grips - Lamkin Sonar Cobra Connect

Overall, today was an extremely fun and rewarding day.

 

Looks like a super solid place to get fit at! It'll be interesting to see the on-course performance of that driver. We all know how Trackman indoors does with spin readings.

What color woods are you going with? @Mods, can I change his order to fit what I want in his bag?

 

[JohnSmalls]

10 minutes ago, yungkory said:

Looks like a super solid place to get fit at! It'll be interesting to see the on-course performance of that driver. We all know how Trackman indoors does with spin readings.

What color woods are you going with? @Mods, can I change his order to fit what I want in his bag?

 

Sorry they don’t make a Hawaiian shirt pattern for the woods. 

[JohnSmalls]

26 minutes ago, Nunfa0 said:

Excellent and because I'm a lefty I shall buy a 64* wedge and work my calves 24/7 so I too can hit High, Dirty, Sexy Bombs!!

The secret to that is doing a perfect haka.  Am I right @GB13?