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What is the best way to determine the best putter for you? Whether it is a blade, mid-mallet, or mallet, do you just go to the store and try them and see which one is the most comfortable? What goes into finding the right putter for you?

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Lots of opinions on this. People will say anything that looks good, anything cheap, just get fit for length and lie, do an Edel fitting, get on Puttlab/Capto/quintic and see what the numbers say. I have an opinion on this but too long to type on my phone. I’ll add my thoughts on the topic when I can get to a keyboard.

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Lots of opinions on this. People will say anything that looks good, anything cheap, just get fit for length and lie, do an Edel fitting, get on Puttlab/Capto/quintic and see what the numbers say. I have an opinion on this but too long to type on my phone. I’ll add my thoughts on the topic when I can get to a keyboard.

Amen. I’m with Edel on this, but haven’t done Quintic, which would be the option I’d like to try since it’s about a lot more than aim.


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I've been wondering about this myself.  In 2017 I was fit for an Evnroll ER6, which was the first & only mallet I've ever own, and moved from a traditional blade putter.  Since 2017, my putting style/setup has changed and I am not very confident with the mallet, but I think it might just need to have lie angle adjusted.  I played in a tournament last weekend and used the blade...34 putts, with one 4-putt and two 3-putts.  I would definitely like to get another fitting done, but it's not super high on my list right now.  I think the LAB putters are a very interesting concept and possibly worth looking into.

When I did get fit in 2017, it was at Evnroll's HQ and they didn't have the fitting system they now have.

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I did a putter fitting at Club Champion a year and a 1/2 ago and really was impressed.  I learned a lot about my putting stroke and why certain putters and setups were better for me.  I gained a lot of confidence with the putter I was fit into.  So I'd recommend doing something similar.  Lots get fit for irons, drivers, etc but ultimately we use the putter much more during the round.  


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What is the best way to determine the best putter for you? Whether it is a blade, mid-mallet, or mallet, do you just go to the store and try them and see which one is the most comfortable? What goes into finding the right putter for you?

May be the wrong way to look at it, but I found the best way to know if a putter is the right fit if I can consistently roll it on line and the weight feels good for my tempo. I start with the putter that rolls on line and feels good, then I fine tune it with grip type and size. Currently using TM spider tour black, with super stroke flatso 3.0 grip. Heavy weight insert for balance


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I have tried everything in the book, except getting professionally fitted.  I have a putter (Odyssey O works 1w) that I put good with, but not great.  It keeps coming back to the bag after I go out trying something else.  I know that it is not the perfect putter for me and I am obsessed with the hunt for the perfect putter.  With that being said I truly feel that if I was to bite the bullet and get fitted then the hunt would be over.  I love everything in my bag except the putter, so one could say that the reason I haven't gone to get fitted is because just as all golfers I like to experiment with all the shiny new toys out there.  LOL!!!


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I think one thing that is often missed from the conversation about toe hang is grip tightness and club head weight. Everything I've read says that more arcing strokes need more toe hang, less arcing strokes mean less toe hang. But if you have a light enough club head and tight enough grip on the putter, you could game a blade putter even with a fairly straight stroke.

My personal preference is for a heavier putter head, and I use a really soft grip, so when I try a putter with a significant amount of toe hang and a heavier head I can actually see the putter face open up by 10° or more on my stroke.

I recently tried the TaylorMade SpiderX and the Odyssey TT 2-Ball side by side at Dick's on the practice putting green in-store. With the same stroke I was draining 10-foot putts with the Odyssey, and missing everything 1-2" right with the TaylorMade.


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You need to work out your swing type 

Straight Putting Path and Curved Putting Path, image: pgatoursuperstore

 

They recommend a Blade for strong arc, and a Mallet type for a straight line swing. Mid mallet in between. You can rest a putter on something to see how much toe hang there is or if it is square faced (for straight swings)

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5 hours ago, cciciora13 said:

What is the best way to determine the best putter for you? Whether it is a blade, mid-mallet, or mallet, do you just go to the store and try them and see which one is the most comfortable? What goes into finding the right putter for you?

My selection criteria:

  • whichever one I need to use the least
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In all honesty, I think it's pretty important to get fit, preferably on grass and PLEASE use your golf balls that you play on the regular. I had the good fortune of getting fit at the Ping factory when I was in college (I think we went in 2006 or 07?) and that's the putter I still play. I've had multiple fittings since and each time the numbers, feel, roll, all of it are the same or worse than what I game now. (For me, I really had to work hard to move away from 'preference' and just go with the raw stats. I love the look of a Scotty blade, but I cannot putt with it to save my life.)


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If you don't know what your stroke type is *** (toe hang) or what length (eye position) you should be using, getting fit might be a good idea. If you have an unusually upright (lie) or flat stroke, or you tend to press forward or backward (loft) with a putter, getting fit might be a good idea. If you don't know if you like blades, mallets or something in between (MOI, alignment, etc.), getting fit might be a good idea.

If you know those things, you can probably narrow the field considerably, go try qualifying putters, and buy the one that feels, looks and costs right to you.

And even if you know all the above, what you putt best with may defy conventional wisdom somewhat. Putting is partly what gives you confidence, you just won't putt well with a putter you have doubts about no matter what a fitter tells you (if you're not convinced).

I've known plenty of players who just have ZERO confidence putting, and I've watched them go through several putters without improvement - a fitting may or may not change that. Sounds silly, but you have to believe in yourself before any putter will give you better results.

*** Your stroke type is probably slight or strong arc, SBST is somewhat of a misnomer as it's bio mechanically very awkward.

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Simple for me, feel and balance. I can put with a anything and often put out with a PW as generally my putting is the best part of my game. Always has been.

You can do as much research as you want and can get fitted but at the end of the day it all come down to confidence with that club in your hand. I have had 4 putters in 45 years.

One thing however, always take the ball you play with you when you are testing a putter and do it on the greens you play, not in a shop on plastic grass.

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35 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Here is what I have learned about putters and the putting stroke. 

1. You can pick up any putter and learn to putt well with it no matter how much it goes against all of your natural tendencies;  just like full swing clubs.  The problem is that when you are under pressure you tend to go back to your tendencies which may cause poor performance.  You have basically fit yourself to the putter.   You picked this putter because of the looks,  how it rolled the ball in the store or on a real green. 

2.  You can get fit for a putter.   There are numerous approaches and strategies for fitting a putter.  In no particular order:

2a.  Big Box Stores:   These are typically loft/lie/length adjustments.   Nothing really scientific;  you grab a putter, take your stance and the putter length and lie is typically adjusted to have your eyes over the ball.  

2b.  Edel fitting:  Edel takes the approach of fitting for aim and speed control.  The fitting starts off but trying to identify the blade or mallet and alignment line/dot combination that enables you to consistently setup aimed at your target.  Once that is established, weighting in the head and grip are adjusted until you are able to consistently roll putts a specific distance.  

2c. Puttlab/Capto/Quintic:  These are devices that measure different aspects of your stroke to help identify the putter characteristics that work best for you.  This is performance driven fitting.   You putt the ball and the system helps determine if the putter you are using is launching the ball correctly and on your intended line.   It may make a recommendation for the putter it thinks you should use; however,  this can be influenced by the putter used during the test.  You need knowledgeable fitters to use this technology.  

Putters are designed the way they are to vary how the putter travels along the path. The path can be in to out,  out to in, or zero'd out just like full swings.  Depending on your path,  you will need a putter that assists in returning the club face to the proper position at impact.  The use of weighting, hosel type, hosel positioning (heel, center, etc.), and CoG location all influence the putters rotation through the stroke.  Many people are look for specific toe hangs,  but what they generally don't consider is the associated putter weight.  A 20* toe hang putter weighting 340gr will rotate  differently than a 20* toe hang putter weighing 370gr.  

You can do some self fitting with a putter.   Take your normal setup and try to roll a ball on your intended line; gates are great to verify, using different length strokes.  It is easiest to find putters of different weights so if you miss left,  find a heavier putter  and if you are missing right pick a lighter putter.  Once you find a putter you can roll online,  see how well you can control distance.    I think this can be done indoors or outdoors.

Having rolled lots of putters I can tell you that no matter how similar two putters look,  you will find that they have different balance, feel,   ability to consistently aim, directional control, and distance control.  During most wanted testing, there were putters that I missed left, others I missed right,  some short, some long, some short and long; some that I couldn't make a 5 foot putt with, but did well at 10 and 20 feet.  Others were great at 5 but not at 10 or 20.  

Once you find the putter,  work on startline and especially distance control so you can establish baselines on how long your stroke needs to be for different distances.  

 

Thanks for the great reply cnosil. I really love all the info you put into this post

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52 minutes ago, cciciora13 said:

Thanks for the great reply cnosil. I really love all the info you put into this post

I am just a putter junkie and spent a lot of time learning about that aspect of the game.   

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This is funny topic. I have always been a blade putter guy. Don’t like oversized or too many trinkits in the club. Went for a fitting and literally drained everything with a bettinardi mallet. Total opposite of what my eye prefers. Put that bettinardi in my hand at the testing and it was automatic.

long story short I would honestly go play around at a local pga superstore and see what you like, I think you’ll surprise yourself.

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Putting is the least consistent variable from golfer to golfer in all of golf because of different stance, release, grip, and stroke. 

To boil it down to something easy to apply across all those variables is difficult but, I will try. 

You want to find a Putter that you can confidently and consistently roll the ball on your intended line with the greatest control of speed and distance that fits how you putt. 

Evidence of a poor fitting putter:

  • Hopping or skidding of the ball after being struck
  • Side spin
  • Pulling or pushing the putt
  • Poor distance control
  • Unable to find your tempo/release
  • The toe of the club up in the air
  • Having to stand too hunched or upright

Signs of a good fit:

  • Putter is square to ground at address
  • Eyes are in a good place to see your line at address
  • Putts start on their intended line at 3', 10' & 25' distances
  • Pure roll without hopping or skidding
  • No side spin (ball rolling end over end)
  • Good distance control
  • Stroke feels natural or comfortable

Noted, some of the above can be signs of user error or lack of ability but, there is usually evidence that certain putters will get you closer more of the time. 

I have tried a few Anser style putters and landed on an Evnroll ER8 mallet. The longer line on the putter helps me feel I am better aimed where I want. I actually have a 34" but, I wish I had a shorter one because I really like to get over the top of it so, I end up holding it down there grip some. 

I bought it after testing it in the store. It was the only putter I could sink 20'+ putts with. The reality is that the putter took weeks to get used to because it has a milled face and heavy weight that both combined to reduce how far the ball went so I was leaving a lot of putts short until I figured it out. 

All that to say, time with a putter will reveal what putter is best for you. 

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Saw this on Instagram today and I think it is appropriate for this thread

 

 

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On 6/18/2020 at 5:15 PM, cnosil said:

Here is what I have learned about putters and the putting stroke. 

1. You can pick up any putter and learn to putt well with it no matter how much it goes against all of your natural tendencies;  just like full swing clubs.  The problem is that when you are under pressure you tend to go back to your tendencies which may cause poor performance.  You have basically fit yourself to the putter.   You picked this putter because of the looks,  how it rolled the ball in the store or on a real green. 

2.  You can get fit for a putter.   There are numerous approaches and strategies for fitting a putter.  In no particular order:

2a.  Big Box Stores:   These are typically loft/lie/length adjustments.   Nothing really scientific;  you grab a putter, take your stance and the putter length and lie is typically adjusted to have your eyes over the ball.  

2b.  Edel fitting:  Edel takes the approach of fitting for aim and speed control.  The fitting starts off but trying to identify the blade or mallet and alignment line/dot combination that enables you to consistently setup aimed at your target.  Once that is established, weighting in the head and grip are adjusted until you are able to consistently roll putts a specific distance.  

2c. Puttlab/Capto/Quintic:  These are devices that measure different aspects of your stroke to help identify the putter characteristics that work best for you.  This is performance driven fitting.   You putt the ball and the system helps determine if the putter you are using is launching the ball correctly and on your intended line.   It may make a recommendation for the putter it thinks you should use; however,  this can be influenced by the putter used during the test.  You need knowledgeable fitters to use this technology.  

Putters are designed the way they are to vary how the putter travels along the path. The path can be in to out,  out to in, or zero'd out just like full swings.  Depending on your path,  you will need a putter that assists in returning the club face to the proper position at impact.  The use of weighting, hosel type, hosel positioning (heel, center, etc.), and CoG location all influence the putters rotation through the stroke.  Many people are look for specific toe hangs,  but what they generally don't consider is the associated putter weight.  A 20* toe hang putter weighting 340gr will rotate  differently than a 20* toe hang putter weighing 370gr.  

You can do some self fitting with a putter.   Take your normal setup and try to roll a ball on your intended line; gates are great to verify, using different length strokes.  It is easiest to find putters of different weights so if you miss left,  find a heavier putter  and if you are missing right pick a lighter putter.  Once you find a putter you can roll online,  see how well you can control distance.    I think this can be done indoors or outdoors.

Having rolled lots of putters I can tell you that no matter how similar two putters look,  you will find that they have different balance, feel,   ability to consistently aim, directional control, and distance control.  During most wanted testing, there were putters that I missed left, others I missed right,  some short, some long, some short and long; some that I couldn't make a 5 foot putt with, but did well at 10 and 20 feet.  Others were great at 5 but not at 10 or 20.  

Once you find the putter,  work on startline and especially distance control so you can establish baselines on how long your stroke needs to be for different distances.  

 

This is an incredibly informative post. Well done and thank you!

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I used to be a blade guy and was an average putter, then several years ago I won a trip to play a Ryder Cup Style tournament that came with a full bag of clubs.

As part of that event I paid for a full bag fitting with the Callaway performance center. When it got to the putter they filmed my stroke using my current gamer (a Scotty) at 3 different distances. They then gave me several test putters to try on the same putts. They measured face angle, arc, starting loft and ending loft. When I got to the face balanced mallets it just “clicked” all the measurements were in the “tour range” as they called it and I made all of the test putts!

So I ended up with an Odyssey #7...it felt great and I liked the look. I’ve used several models of the #7 since then and just about anybody that’s played with me says that I’m a very good putter.

I would definitely try a fitting if you can find one.

Or you can look for one of these on eBay, they had some fitting functionality built in.IMG_1286.JPG


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:cobra-small: King F7+ UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 6F4 Shaft

:cobra-small: King F7 3W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft

:cobra-small: King F7 5W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft

:cobra-small: King F7 4 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft

:cobra-small: King F7 5 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft

:cobra-small: King F7 6-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts

:cobra-small: King PuR Wedges 50*,54*,58* UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts

:odyssey-small: Metal X Milled #7 with SuperStroke 3.0 grip

Arccos Generation 1 Sensors on all clubs

Snell MTB



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