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Looking at getting a new driver and overheard fitters talking about next TS and new G series showing up soon. Does anyone have any news to share?

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Not  soon. But both will have new models. 
 

Titleist later this year and PING most likely January at the PGA Show if there is one. 

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:titelist-small: TSi1 Aldila Ascent 40G shaft

:titelist-small: TSi2 18 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 and 23 degree hybrids Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T300 5-P Tensei  R flex shaft 1/4 long 

:titelist-small: SM8 48F/54/58 D Grinds 

:ping-small: Tyne 4 

:titelist-small: ProV1X Play number 12

 

 

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Just FYI, I believe that Ian Fraser in a live feed today said "yes" on titleist but "no" on Ping.

Any idea if Titleist would likely also release new fairway woods?  That doesn't seem as automatic as some companies. 

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19 minutes ago, Bschrempf said:

Just FYI, I believe that Ian Fraser in a live feed today said "yes" on titleist but "no" on Ping.

Any idea if Titleist would likely also release new fairway woods?  That doesn't seem as automatic as some companies. 

Titleist always releases drivers and fairways together. Titleist is one of the most consistent companies in their releases. The changes have been when they moved hybrids without irons in the 816/716 lineup and when they added ap3 and then last year with the additional TS lines.

Pretty much every company has standard releases cycles and release everything at the same time. Outside of PXG or when ping or titleist release an additional model like ts1/4 or when ping did lst mid release I can’t think of a company that has an irregular release.

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Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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21 minutes ago, Bschrempf said:

Just FYI, I believe that Ian Fraser in a live feed today said "yes" on titleist but "no" on Ping.

Any idea if Titleist would likely also release new fairway woods?  That doesn't seem as automatic as some companies. 

So Ian basically confirmed what I had already said 🤪  

Yes, it will be the entire woods line  Driver/FW/Hybrids

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:titelist-small: TSi1 Aldila Ascent 40G shaft

:titelist-small: TSi2 18 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 and 23 degree hybrids Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T300 5-P Tensei  R flex shaft 1/4 long 

:titelist-small: SM8 48F/54/58 D Grinds 

:ping-small: Tyne 4 

:titelist-small: ProV1X Play number 12

 

 

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From listening to Tony talk about the fall releases on the No Putts Given podcast there could still be some questions.  There is still 2019 product on the shelves.  2020 product has not sold through at all like people were forecasting due to the global pandemic and most of retail being shut down.  If we get a 2nd wave of covid and stores have to close again it's gonna get very interesting to see who discounts product first just to move through it.  If current 2020 models from Taylormade and/or Callaway are on shelves with steep discounts it would be a very hard market to launch a new $500+ dollar driver in.  

I'm guessing as of right now a Titleist launch is still on the books, but with how fast everything has been changing when it comes to Covid it's not out of the realm that we see changes to release cycles for this season.

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Driver: :taylormade-small: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black

3w: :taylormade-small:'16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82

5w: :cleveland-small: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow

Hybrid: :cleveland-small: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black

Irons: :cleveland-small: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125

Wedges: :cleveland-small: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125

Putter: :odyssey-small: Red 7s

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I hope Ping will name its driver G420 and offer Mary Jane green color scheme. Stoners rejoice! 😄

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Driver: :titelist-small: TS3, 9,5°, Fujikura Ventus Blue 6S (currently testing with Hzrdus Yellow 5.5 60g @47'' -8g head weight)

Fairway::taylormade-small: SIM 19°, set at 17°, Diamana FW Limited 75S

Hybrid:  :cobra-small: F7 3-4 Hybrid (20,5°), Fujikura Pro 75hR, 

Irons: :srixon-small: Z565 4-6, Z765 7-8 , Z965 9-PW, Nippon Modus 105S,

Wedges: :cleveland-small: RTX-3, 50°, Nippon Modus 105S, 56°, 62°, Nippon Modus 115 Wedge

Putter: :EVNROLL: ER5, 34'', Gravity Grip

 

 

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6 hours ago, Calvo90 said:

I hope Ping will name its driver G420 and offer Mary Jane green color scheme. Stoners rejoice! 😄

I can't say what it is, but I can tell you for certain it's not G420!   

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:titelist-small: TSi1 Aldila Ascent 40G shaft

:titelist-small: TSi2 18 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 and 23 degree hybrids Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T300 5-P Tensei  R flex shaft 1/4 long 

:titelist-small: SM8 48F/54/58 D Grinds 

:ping-small: Tyne 4 

:titelist-small: ProV1X Play number 12

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I can't say what it is, but I can tell you for certain it's not G420!   

Queue the why can’t ping or companies stick to a consistent naming convention and all similar type responses to the name.

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Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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8 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Queue the why can’t ping or companies stick to a consistent naming convention and all similar type responses to the name.

Well I guess they have a least a few people on the marketing side that are in touch with "pop culture" as opposed to what most people think.  And it won't be a drastic departure in naming, and I'm sure it'll leak out sooner or later.   Just not from me 🙂

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:titelist-small: TSi1 Aldila Ascent 40G shaft

:titelist-small: TSi2 18 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 and 23 degree hybrids Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T300 5-P Tensei  R flex shaft 1/4 long 

:titelist-small: SM8 48F/54/58 D Grinds 

:ping-small: Tyne 4 

:titelist-small: ProV1X Play number 12

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Well I guess they have a least a few people on the marketing side that are in touch with "pop culture" as opposed to what most people think.  And it won't be a drastic departure in naming, and I'm sure it'll leak out sooner or later.   Just not from me 🙂

How about the G "I don't know!" 🙂

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Taylor Made Sim2  10.5 (Opened 1 click) Ventus Blue 5  R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

Edison Wedges 54 and 59 KBS Tour Graphite 80's

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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59 minutes ago, greggarner said:

I had the good fortune of being hosted at the Ping factory back in college (sponsorship) and got to talk with John Solheim himself for a bit (he attended my college and sits on their board). He walked us through their naming processes and it was fascinating. One piece that jumped out at me was when they first started the G line, there was a wondering why they went from G2 to G5. No lie, it has to do with numerology. "3" is the number of the Trinity in Christianity and Solheim himself is an evangelical Christian and "4" is unlucky in many cultures (tetraphobia). So they went from G2 to G5.

It's stuff like this that makes this place so great.... always something to learn.

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1 hour ago, greggarner said:

I had the good fortune of being hosted at the Ping factory back in college (sponsorship) and got to talk with John Solheim himself for a bit (he attended my college and sits on their board). He walked us through their naming processes and it was fascinating. One piece that jumped out at me was when they first started the G line, there was a wondering why they went from G2 to G5. No lie, it has to do with numerology. "3" is the number of the Trinity in Christianity and Solheim himself is an evangelical Christian and "4" is unlucky in many cultures (tetraphobia). So they went from G2 to G5.

I never even thought that it was weird to see the progression of naming like that... Now it makes a lot of sense.

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Driver: :cobra-small: Speedzone 10.5* lofted down to 9.0* Fujikura Atmos Black TS 6X

Wood: :cobra-small: Speedzone Tour Fujikura Atmos Black TS 7X

Hybrids: :cobra-small: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX

Irons: :cobra-small: MIM Tour Irons 4-PW Project X 6.5

Wedges: :cobra-small: MIM Black 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400

Putter: :seemore-small: Nashville Z1C 34"

 Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X 

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2 hours ago, greggarner said:

I had the good fortune of being hosted at the Ping factory back in college (sponsorship) and got to talk with John Solheim himself for a bit (he attended my college and sits on their board). He walked us through their naming processes and it was fascinating. One piece that jumped out at me was when they first started the G line, there was a wondering why they went from G2 to G5. No lie, it has to do with numerology. "3" is the number of the Trinity in Christianity and Solheim himself is an evangelical Christian and "4" is unlucky in many cultures (tetraphobia). So they went from G2 to G5.

Then he would love the sermon I preached once using my G2 as an object lesson.  It had to do with the difference between two Greek words, one for new as in brand new and the other for new and improved.  I mentioned the G5.  🙂

 

This was a great piece of info - how about why they would go from G30 back to G then up to G400?

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Taylor Made Sim2  10.5 (Opened 1 click) Ventus Blue 5  R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

Edison Wedges 54 and 59 KBS Tour Graphite 80's

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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The good news out of all of this is that the price for all of Titleist's TS drivers came down $100 this week 🙏

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:titelist-small: TS4 @ 9.5° w/ EvenFlow White 85         :titelist-small: TS3 3W @ 13.5° w/ EvenFlow White 75          :titelist-small: 816H2 19°

:taylormade-small: P790 4-7, P760 8-PW w/ Project X 6.0          :vokey-small: 52°, 56°, 60°

:scotty-small: Pro Platinum Newport Mid-Slant          :titelist-small: Hybrid 14 Stand Bag          :titelist-small: -ProV1x (Left Dash)

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38 minutes ago, jwlong410 said:

The good news out of all of this is that the price for all of Titleist's TS drivers came down $100 this week 🙏

That is good news, but it actually happened about a month ago.  

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:titelist-small: TSi1 Aldila Ascent 40G shaft

:titelist-small: TSi2 18 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 and 23 degree hybrids Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T300 5-P Tensei  R flex shaft 1/4 long 

:titelist-small: SM8 48F/54/58 D Grinds 

:ping-small: Tyne 4 

:titelist-small: ProV1X Play number 12

 

 

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17 hours ago, Calvo90 said:

I hope Ping will name its driver G420 and offer Mary Jane green color scheme. Stoners rejoice! 😄

 

10 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I can't say what it is, but I can tell you for certain it's not G420!   

Maybe this is the opportunity to reach a new market.  Might be a missed opportunity for an outdoor sport surrounded by nature with an aging demographic.  It might even chill some of the wannabe tour players out.  They can call it the Masters Edition (like the Cobra AMP) for the hardos out there and leave the numbers for the stoners. 

Driver: default_cobra-small.jpg.634f41dc1b8ea120e1aae121bd8f10ef.jpg.5a46268ca12328475fd752152fc4c9f9.jpg Speedzone Xtreme 10.5° Ventus Blue 6 Stiff

3 Wood: default_callaway-small.jpg.14ff3e8c0cfb3f1ea12291d143b9d8c2.jpg XR 15° Project X LZ 50 Stiff

3 Hybrid:default_callaway-small.jpg.14ff3e8c0cfb3f1ea12291d143b9d8c2.jpg Steelhead XR16 19° Project X SD Stiff

Irons: default_cobra-small.jpg.634f41dc1b8ea120e1aae121bd8f10ef.jpg.5a46268ca12328475fd752152fc4c9f9.jpg King F9 Speedback KBS Tour 90 Stiff

Wedges: default_cleveland-small.jpg.bce0257eb703046e93feb8255808ab50.jpg CBX 52°, 56° ,60° Dynamic Gold 115

Putter: default_taylormade-small.jpg.5d28361175b74c5e9e3da2c80aec4b53.jpgWhite Smoke Big Fontana 35"

Ball: default_srixon-small.jpg.26f925d4dc56727e04dc68d7bfa37bb9.jpgZ-star

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