Would you count it?

[TBT]

I was playing a little 9 hole course that’s a part of my son’s apartment complex last weekend. I came to this short very elevated par 3. The course is set up with lifted cups right now because of Covid-19.

 

Back tees were 134 yards abs because of the elevation I hit a towering pitching wedge that never left the flag....the ball hirs the green and on the first hop it hits the lifted rubber cup and bounces 12 feet away.

 

Since all you need to do to sink a putt is hit the lifted cup do you count the ace because you hit the cup with the tee shot?

 

Would the ball have gone in with a regulation cup? Who knows...it would have definitely got a piece of it but since the cup is lifted I’ll never know.

 

 

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[stj51]

I probably would not have counted it, but I also hate the elevated cup so don't let me take the wind out of your sails 

[FrogginBullfish]

With how far away it ended up, no, I would not count it as an ace. I know you just have to hit the elevated cup but I think there's got to be some common sense used in whether a putt or shot would have actually gone in if the elevated cup wasn't there. I'd say if it bounces off the cup and ends up more than 3 feet away, depending on green speed, there's a good chance it wouldn't have stayed in anyway. The other issue with just having it hit the cup is you could skim it off the side of the cup and call it a made putt or shot when, depending on speed, it'd likely be a burnt edge or lipout. Ultimately, I'd say use your best judgement and if there's any doubt that it wouldn't have stayed in the hole if it was a regular hole then it doesn't count as a made shot.

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[silver & black]

Yup! Normally, no. But.... those are the rules right now. 

 

I have to make an amendment to my reply.............. I personally wouldn't count it if it was more than a foot from the cup.

Edited June 19, 2020 by silver & black

[CarlH]

No, and that's why elevated cups is a terrible decision!  People counting the putt as good when they putt it so hard that it bounces off the raised cup, instances such as the one you just described, etc.  You know in your heart that it wouldn't have gone in if it bounced that far away.  But, as you pointed out, those are the rules (at your club -- not all).  Makes for a good story, but hardly an ace.  

[aerospace_ray]

5 hours ago, TBT said:

 

I was playing a little 9 hole course that’s a part of my son’s apartment complex last weekend. I came to this short very elevated par 3. The course is set up with lifted cups right now because of Covid-19.

 

Back tees were 134 yards abs because of the elevation I hit a towering pitching wedge that never left the flag....the ball hirs the green and on the first hop it hits the lifted rubber cup and bounces 12 feet away.

 

Since all you need to do to sink a putt is hit the lifted cup do you count the ace because you hit the cup with the tee shot?

 

Would the ball have gone in with a regulation cup? Who knows...it would have definitely got a piece of it but since the cup is lifted I’ll never know.

 

 

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First congrats on the golf shot. 

So agree with most previous post, I would not count it. 

Curious did the ball  bounce hard off the raised part like a ricochet off a tree or was is slow roll to 12 feet (in case their was severe undulation of the green (like down hill kinda) that exaggerated the roll? 

[GolfSpy_BNG]

Golf is a game of personal responsibility, integrity, and honesty. If you can honestly tell yourself that it would have went in, then count it.

 

The fact that you started this thread looking for opinions tells me that you don’t believe it would have stayed in the hole and would say so had it happen to a playing partner.

 

My opinion would be it is a great shot though not a hole in one but my opinion along with everyone else’s doesn’t matter. Only your opinion matters and only you have to live with that decision.

 

 

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[GolfSpy_SHARK]

To quote @silver & black yup that bad boy counts! Congrats! Rifgt now if it hits the cup it counts. Could have gone in though.

eirher way that SOB is an ace so buy everyone a round!

[GolfSpy BOS]

I wouldn’t count it. At 12 feet I’m not thinking it would have dropped. More likely would have scattered off the flag or ran right by.
But I also wouldn’t want my first hole in one to be one like that.


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[GolfSpy_SHARK]

1 minute ago, B.Boston said:

I wouldn’t count it. At 12 feet I’m not thinking it would have dropped. More likely would have scattered off the flag or ran right by.
But I also wouldn’t want my first hole in one to be one like that.


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Yea tough one. Is the rule of it TOUCHES the raised cup it’s in or is it “if you think it would drop”. Maybe that’s where I’m confused?

[GolfSpy BOS]

Don’t quote me, but I think it’s a “hits and mostly likey would have gone in” thing. But I haven’t actually read the rule.

 

 

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[GolfSpy_SHARK]

3 minutes ago, Lacassem said:

Yea tough one. Is the rule of it TOUCHES the raised cup it’s in or is it “if you think it would drop”. Maybe that’s where I’m confused?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/golf.com/instruction/etiquetteist-should-hole-one-raised-cup-count/amp/
 

good read. Seems like it’s up to the group really....again would you want this to be your first hole in one? Tough to say.....

[den748]

I would say it is my first ace but not my first hole in one.  Based on current rules it's a 1 (so an ace) but it wasn't holed.  You'll have a great bar debate for years though!

[Letthebigdogshunt]

I would not count it if it were me. I could not live with myself if I claimed a hole in one in that instance. 

[Chizzle]

I didnt count it.  That happened to me definitely once and potentially twice when the cups were raised 2 inches.  I've never had a hole in one so for my first, and any other for that matter, I want the satisfaction of pulling thr ball out of the cup.

[Guest Delete]

No. 

12ft means pace that would probably have hopped out.

2ft or less then my hands would go up as a maybe. 

[clafoone]

I was playing a little 9 hole course that’s a part of my son’s apartment complex last weekend. I came to this short very elevated par 3. The course is set up with lifted cups right now because of Covid-19.
 
Back tees were 134 yards abs because of the elevation I hit a towering pitching wedge that never left the flag....the ball hirs the green and on the first hop it hits the lifted rubber cup and bounces 12 feet away.
 
Since all you need to do to sink a putt is hit the lifted cup do you count the ace because you hit the cup with the tee shot?
 
Would the ball have gone in with a regulation cup? Who knows...it would have definitely got a piece of it but since the cup is lifted I’ll never know.
 
 
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Like McGwire and Sosa, gotta put an asterisk next to it.
We play with foam below the lip of the cup. Same discussion on lip outs. Thank mainland China.

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[elvis14]

Congrats on your hole in one.

Count it!

[TBT]

First congrats on the golf shot. 
So agree with most previous post, I would not count it. 
Curious did the ball  bounce hard off the raised part like a ricochet off a tree or was is slow roll to 12 feet (in case their was severe undulation of the green (like down hill kinda) that exaggerated the roll? 

I pretty much agree with everybody’s opinion here...I didn’t count it...but I hate that the raised cup cost me a potential hole in one (BTW It would not have been my first) because it could have gone in.....we have all seen tour pros one hop them in or even dunk it on the fly, so it COULD HAVE gone in.

The sad part is I will never know.

To answer your question, it hit dead center and bounced about 2-3 feet back then it trickled down a false front stopping just on the fringe. Had there not been a slope there it probably stops 3-4 feet away.

The raised cups are very “rubbery” so it provided a spring effect.


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