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Hi guys,

I've been told at my golf classes that i need to keep my head still.

This is true because when i do my backswing my head rotates in the same directions as the arms.

Just wanted to know if you guys know any drills for me to improve this!!

Thanks.


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Hi guys,

I've been told at my golf classes that i need to keep my head still.

This is true because when i do my backswing my head rotates in the same directions as the arms.

Just wanted to know if you guys know any drills for me to improve this!!

Thanks.

Don’t know what your instructor is trying to do or how much your head is moving, but speaking in general terms keeping the head down or keeping the head still is bad advice.

If you are taking lessons, ask the instructor; that is why you are paying him.

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3 hours ago, D_Golfer said:

Hi guys,

I've been told at my golf classes that i need to keep my head still.

This is true because when i do my backswing my head rotates in the same directions as the arms.

Just wanted to know if you guys know any drills for me to improve this!!

Thanks.

Keeping your head still is a positive thing, but its a by-product of all of the other things that go on during your swing.  Concentrating on a still head can be counterproductive, its better to determine WHY your head moves, and address that issue.  And that is, as @cnosil says, is a job for your instructor.

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51 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Don’t know what your instructor is trying to do or how much your head is moving, but speaking in general terms keeping the head down or keeping the head still is bad advice.

If you are taking lessons, ask the instructor; that is why you are paying him.

Exactly. Some head movements are bad while others aren’t. I’m with you if taking lessons have the instructor give the drills instead of guys on the Internet that haven’t seen your swing or know what the instructor is talking about.

One could do a Google/YouTube search and find various videos and drills that may or may not help if they aren’t addressing the specific issue.

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Not sure what your instructor's intent is like the others said. My instructor *wants* my head to turn slightly on the backswing to encourage more of a shoulder turn and to lessen strain on my neck and back. Tough for us to give you drills that may run counter to A) what your instructor wants, and B) what might be best for your body & swing.

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@cnosil nailed it.  Rigid "don't move your head" or "keep your head down" advice tends to translate into limiting your turn and ability to rotate, in my opinion.  Watch clips of Nicklaus, or DJ, and you'll see they turn their head in their backswing.

I think the main concern that you're hinting at is lateral movement away from the ball in the backswing, or sliding and swaying, rather than turning, which will have the effect of your head and entire body moving off the ball.  And, if a video shows your head changing height excessively it's often an indication you're not maintaining your spine angle and are possibly early extending.

I am no instructor and rarely dispense swing advice since I don't consider myself to be good enough to be dishing out advice, but I think you'll find most decent golfers and coaches will agree "keep your head down" is maybe the most popular bad advice floating around out there.

My two cents FWIW...

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I at times have the real head movement problems, as identified by a quality instructor, too much lateral head movement, too much up and down. The head and body are going together in those movements, so it causes bad results.

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Sometimes I feel like "keep your head still" is a way of saying "keep your eyes on your target".  I remember when I learned my dad would say "keep your head still" more as a keep your head down and don't try to follow the ball before it's been hit.  I hope that makes sense.   I don't know.... as others have said, ask your instructor the reasoning behind it. 


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7 minutes ago, den748 said:

Sometimes I feel like "keep your head still" is a way of saying "keep your eyes on your target".  I remember when I learned my dad would say "keep your head still" more as a keep your head down and don't try to follow the ball before it's been hit.  I hope that makes sense.   I don't know.... as others have said, ask your instructor the reasoning behind it. 

And yet Duval and Annika both looked away as they made contact. 

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I think what my instructor is referring to is that when i rotate my body my head rotates and my spine slightly sways causing major inconsistencies in strike and direction

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20 minutes ago, D_Golfer said:

I think what my instructor is referring to is that when i rotate my body my head rotates and my spine slightly sways causing major inconsistencies in strike and direction

If that’s the case a drill to fix you head is fixing a symptom and not the cause. Work with your instructor on what’s needed for what he’s trying to do. Anything else is counter productive to having an instructor. 

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8 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

If that’s the case a drill to fix you head is fixing a symptom and not the cause. Work with your instructor on what’s needed for what he’s trying to do. Anything else is counter productive to having an instructor. 

Right.  This is the value of an instructor...far better equipped than most to sort out and distinguish between symptoms versus the actual ailment.

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I'll second what pretty much everyone else here has said. If you're paying an instructor to help you with your golf swing then it's on them to help you accomplish the objectives set out by providing drills. Perhaps more importantly, you should work with the instructor to discover a "feel" that helps you achieve a specific goal. If they are unwilling or unable to do that for some reason then I'd recommend finding a new instructor. 

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1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

And yet Duval and Annika both looked away as they made contact. 

Well, I know smokers who lived to 90+....doesn't mean it's what will work for the vast majority of people.  Generally when teaching someone new you'd want to focus on works for most people THEN start finding exceptions.  If someone who has never seen a golf swing asked you to describe a swing, are you going to describe Matt Wolff or are you going to go with something more like Adam Scott?

So I'm not saying you're wrong in saying it isn't a requirement, and I'm not saying I'm right that it HAS to stay "down"  but I've never been a fan of trying to use 1% of the 1%-ers as a baseline. 


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There are great drills to help keep you in posture/maintain spine angle, but you might need more clarification from your teacher. I used to hate how much time my instructor spent talking to me, but it’s vital that you understand exactly what they want. I ended up asking a lot of questions back until he said, “yes, exactly”


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I think what my instructor is referring to is that when i rotate my body my head rotates and my spine slightly sways causing major inconsistencies in strike and direction

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10 minutes ago, TimoTe said:

I might be shot for this but, I disagree with most of the responses here about not trying to keep your head still in the swing. 

Your address position and impact position with different head positions are a recipe for inconsistent strikes. 

If you watch any pro there is head movement slightly lateral and slightly dipping. It’s very subtle for most but it’s far from still. 
 

Not allowing the head to move will negatively impact the bodies ability to rotate. 

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Monte has a good video on this

 

 

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12 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

Monte has a good video on this

 

 

That is a good one and AMG has one about different movements as well

 

 


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