ejgaudette Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Just read the latest article on the 3D Printing golf clubs by Cobra and felt it was super interesting in the idea in being able to add metal exactly where it needs to be. There was mention of lattice structures and I think this is one of the biggest changes that can be made to clubs. The lattice can be just as strong as full metal structures but obviously they can save weight and we already have heard the stories of saving just a few grams and the options this gives a club maker just think of the possibilities now that weight can be saved all over the place. As a side benefit I am not a lefty but hearing about custom club builds must be music to a lefties ears. PMookie, downlowkey, GolfSpy Barbajo and 5 others 8 Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | SMS 4-5/SMS Pro 6-PW Steelfiber i95 S (2023 Official Review) Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GolfSpy Barbajo Posted June 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, ejgaudette said: Just read the latest article on the 3D Printing golf clubs by Cobra and felt it was super interesting in the idea in being able to add metal exactly where it needs to be. There was mention of lattice structures and I think this is one of the biggest changes that can be made to clubs. The lattice can be just as strong as full metal structures but obviously they can save weight and we already have heard the stories of saving just a few grams and the options this gives a club maker just think of the possibilities now that weight can be saved all over the place. As a side benefit I am not a lefty but hearing about custom club builds must be music to a lefties ears. This was a fascinating article to write, and my goodness the whole concept of clubs for lefties didn't even enter my mind! The real reason most companies have limited - to non-existent - left-handed options is because the number of left-handed golfers is so small. Making molds for lefties is just as expensive as making molds for righties, but the volume is so much lower. With 3D Metal Jet printing there are no molds, so in theory there's no added to cost to producing left-handed models of virtually anything. cnosil, russtopherb, MattF and 12 others 15 Quote What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I am in favor of anything that will help a lefty artful_golfer, JohnSmalls, fixyurdivot and 4 others 6 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgaudette Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said: This was a fascinating article to write, and my goodness the whole concept of clubs for lefties didn't even enter my mind! The real reason most companies have limited - to non-existent - left-handed options is because the number of left-handed golfers is so small. Making molds for lefties is just as expensive as making molds for righties, but the volume is so much lower. With 3D Metal Jet printing there are no molds, so in theory there's no added to cost to producing left-handed models of virtually anything. That was exactly my thought just opens up such a wide variety of options for all golfers. I will be very interested to see what the product is when it finally launches. Also thinking this would help make obsolete many of the patterns for movable internal weights for drivers as you could build any structure you want to locate the CG just about anywhere to fit the swing of each golfer. I also wonder if this affects the milling process as the 3D printer produces the almost finished product and the milling can just be a finishing touch and not the whole club shaping process. Much like the milling to finish Cobra drive faces, instead of milling the a whole wedge from a larger metal piece. JohnSmalls, artful_golfer and GolfSpy Barbajo 3 Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | SMS 4-5/SMS Pro 6-PW Steelfiber i95 S (2023 Official Review) Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy Barbajo Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, ejgaudette said: That was exactly my thought just opens up such a wide variety of options for all golfers. I will be very interested to see what the product is when it finally launches. Also thinking this would help make obsolete many of the patterns for movable internal weights for drivers as you could build any structure you want to locate the CG just about anywhere to fit the swing of each golfer. I also wonder if this affects the milling process as the 3D printer produces the almost finished product and the milling can just be a finishing touch and not the whole club shaping process. Much like the milling to finish Cobra drive faces, instead of milling the a whole wedge from a larger metal piece. Where they're at now is Parmatech is printing parts - the parts still need to be assembled and finished, so there's still a lot of handwork that needs to be done. They're a long way from squirting out a finished club, but they are working on getting closer. A lot will depend on what a golfer finds acceptable as a finished product. TR1PTIK, daviddvm, PMookie and 4 others 7 Quote What's in the bag: Driver: TSR3; DynaPWR Carbon FW Wood: DynaPWR 3-wood; TSR 2+ Hybrids: PXG Gen4 18-degree Utility Irons: ZX MkII 20* Irons:; 699/699 Pro V2 Combo; D9 Forged; MT86 (coming soon!); VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; Wedges: RTX6 Zipcore Putter: HB Soft Milled 10.5; Newport Special Select; Willamette, BB8; 8802; MATI Monto Ball: Tour B RXS; Z-STAR Diamond; Triad Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: Follow @golfspybarbajo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said: This was a fascinating article to write, and my goodness the whole concept of clubs for lefties didn't even enter my mind! The real reason most companies have limited - to non-existent - left-handed options is because the number of left-handed golfers is so small. Making molds for lefties is just as expensive as making molds for righties, but the volume is so much lower. With 3D Metal Jet printing there are no molds, so in theory there's no added to cost to producing left-handed models of virtually anything. Loved your not so subtle suggestion about Bryson wanting to run the machine...hilarious and spot on! JohnSmalls, PMookie, artful_golfer and 1 other 3 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgaudette Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said: Where they're at now is Parmatech is printing parts - the parts still need to be assembled and finished, so there's still a lot of handwork that needs to be done. They're a long way from squirting out a finished club, but they are working on getting closer. A lot will depend on what a golfer finds acceptable as a finished product. For sure that is one thing that 3D printing is most spaces is working on, that finished looked when you are printing the items from thing strips of material stacking on each other. Given that the irons and wedge forum category is shinny metal, then yes the need to finish and polish is very important. Not to mention not sure how the faces will feel yet if the face was 3D printed versus other manufacturing techniques, another thing us golfers can be quite picky about. artful_golfer and daviddvm 2 Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | SMS 4-5/SMS Pro 6-PW Steelfiber i95 S (2023 Official Review) Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txgolfjunkie Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I wonder what this will do for demo days...imagine not only hitting demos, but also having someone 'print' up your custom driver/set of irons in a few hours. You could walk away with your new sticks that day instead of waiting days or weeks. Might club companies be able to take advantage of that impulse feeling instead of letting the customer walk away without a product only to have second thoughts? daviddvm, artful_golfer, JohnSmalls and 3 others 6 Quote Cobra Connect 5 Competitor - Team Chad King Radspeed 10.5* w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 60 6.5 tipped 1/2" - Peacoat/Red King Radspeed Big Tour 3 Wood w/ Hzrdus RDX Blue 70 6.5 Tipped 1/2" King Radspeed Tour 5 Wood w/ Motore X F1 70 X Flex King Utility 4 21* w/ Tensei Pro White 100 X Flex King Tour MIM Copper Irons 5-G w/ AMT White X100 Onyx King MIM Black Wedges 55* & 60* w/ AMT White X100 Onyx Spider SR Pro V1x Left Dash Lefty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, ejgaudette said: As a side benefit I am not a lefty but hearing about custom club builds must be music to a lefties ears. @GolfSpy Barbajo I thought of this as soon as I started reading the article. The days of getting left out on club choices is getting shorter! artful_golfer and GolfSpy Barbajo 2 Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerospace_ray Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Very good article. This is going to be fun to watch the evolution of this technology. Happy Cobra is investing in this technology. artful_golfer and daviddvm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downlowkey Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 This may be the most noteworthy development in the club manufacturing space since the advent of titanium woods. It makes sense that Cobra will be rolling out options in stages, but my mind is already racing over Nth degree custom potential a little further down the road. The spec order forms will be sooo much more comprehensive: What sort of turf interaction is ideal for your home course? Need a little bulge and roll on those faces at the top end of the bag? No worries - we will take good care of you. Liquidmetal Technologies had similar industry shakeup potential but seemed to squander their opportunity window with shortsighted tech licensing policies. I will be following this one closely and hoping Cobra quickly finds their Goldilocks zone, so all us golfers can rest a little easier knowing that those new wrenches will be jusssst right. artful_golfer, JohnSmalls and TR1PTIK 3 Quote ______S9-1 Pro D - Matrix Ozik XCON 6 S ______S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S ________3DX 17* - Matrix Ozik Altus Hybrid SG ______ICON Black 4-PW - KBS Tour V S __________588 RTG 49 RTX 52.10 56.12 - DG S400 ______Amazing Grace NYC Tour CS _______'19 TP5X (the preceding have all been gamer approved) "The most important shot in golf is the next one“ - Ben Hogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Haven’t read the article yet but wouldn’t Cobra be copying Wilson in this endeavor? Wilson iirc used 3d printing in the second iteration of driver vs driver. JohnSmalls 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Haven’t read the article yet but wouldn’t Cobra be copying Wilson in this endeavor? Wilson iirc used 3d printing in the second iteration of driver vs driver. Wilson used 3D printing to create prototypes, but still used traditional manufacturing process to produce at volume which is fairly commonplace. What Cobra is talking about is using 3D printing to replace traditional processes entirely which drastically expands possibilities for engineers to use discretionary weight and potentially even build fully tailored clubs for the individual golfer. It's a great read and @GolfSpy Barbajo did a fantastic job writing it. artful_golfer and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, TR1PTIK said: Wilson used 3D printing to create prototypes, but still used traditional manufacturing process to produce at volume which is fairly commonplace. What Cobra is talking about is using 3D printing to replace traditional processes entirely which drastically expands possibilities for engineers to use discretionary weight and potentially even build fully tailored clubs for the individual golfer. It's a great read and @GolfSpy Barbajo did a fantastic job writing it. Correct Wilson used it for prototyping but they were the first to introduce the concept and I didn’t watch every episode of the show and wasn’t paying 100% attention to the ones I did but I think they were using it as a way into maybe using 3D in the future. Again I haven’t read the article yet but imo while cobra maybe the first brand that’s pushing forward with using 3D for production they aren’t the first to use it for building and hitting balls in the design process. JohnSmalls 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Interesting. Is the metal just as strong as forged or cast? What is durability like? This opens up a whole new avenue for technology in clubs. artful_golfer and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Correct Wilson used it for prototyping but they were the first to introduce the concept and I didn’t watch every episode of the show and wasn’t paying 100% attention to the ones I did but I think they were using it as a way into maybe using 3D in the future. Again I haven’t read the article yet but imo while cobra maybe the first brand that’s pushing forward with using 3D for production they aren’t the first to use it for building and hitting balls in the design process. I couldn't really tell you whether or not they were the first. The fact is 3D printing has been around and used within the golf industry for some time. I have no doubt that Cobra is not the only company looking at 3D printing as the future of golf club manufacturing and customization, but as the article suggests they may be the first to deliver a 3D printed product to the retail market - though we have no earthly idea what that product is. I did a quick search about 3D printing in the golf industry and came across these two links - one of which is an interview with former Cobra Golf Engineer Andrew Curtis who says Cobra has been using 3D printing in some capacity since the "early 1990s". The other talks about how Taylormade used 3D printing to create a wax "pattern" in the development of clubs used by Mark O'Meara in 1998. https://www.golfalot.com/equipment-news/cobra-puma-3d-printing-golf-clubs-2535.aspx http://www.3dprinterclassifieds.com/blog/2013/02/3d-printed-golf-clubs-help-manufacturers-prototype-products/ EDIT: Here are a couple more interesting reads I came across while searching. https://3dprint.com/219546/3d-print-golf-clubs-and-equipment/ https://news.softpedia.com/news/First-3D-Printed-Golf-Putter-Goes-Ping-Video-473965.shtml artful_golfer and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogginBullfish Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 First to do it is sort of irrelevant. Hell, I could have called first if the titanium 3D printer that my alma mater has was available at the time I did my 4th year design project.Cobra always seems to be on the cutting edge of technology. Will be really interesting to see how this plays out.Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app TR1PTIK 1 Quote DRIVER PXG 0811XF GEN4 (10.5°) FAIRWAY WOODS PXG 0341XF GEN4 (16°) HYBRIDS PXG 0317XF GEN4 (19°), PXG 0317X GEN4 (22°) IRONS PXG 0311T GEN3 (5 - 9) WEDGES TAYLORMADE MG3 (45°, 50°, 55° TW Grind, 60° TW Grind) PUTTER PXG BATTLE READY ONE & DONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 It's a remarkable concept but wouldn't the downside (from an OEM perspective) be that the player will hang on to those personalized clubs far longer than something he bought off the rack or even normally fitted? ncwoz 1 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, revkev said: It's a remarkable concept but wouldn't the downside (from an OEM perspective) be that the player will hang on to those personalized clubs far longer than something he bought off the rack or even normally fitted? Potentially, but we all know the golfer who's never satisfied. I'm also sure there will still be plenty of off-the-rack consumers for which OEMs will continue to offer a product. Toss in the ability to manufacture parts for another industry (assuming the OEM owns the 3D printing operation and doesn't outsource) provides an alternative for income. The important thing to bear in mind is that this technological shift in manufacturing will take a long time to fully implement and while certain niche products may be offered in the near future, what is discussed in the blog in regard to fully custom, one-off sets is somewhere much further down the road. Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogginBullfish Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I think for the time being any clubs made this way are going to be mainly for Tour players and the odd recreational player who can afford it. These aren't going to be cheap sets.I'd have to assume these sort of clubs, at this point in time, have got to be pushing close to the PXG fully milled single club prices of $650 a club. It's definitely not going to be a popular product for Cobra or any other companies that try it for the next 5-10 years. But as things improve, could become the future of clubmaking. We'll see. Either way, I'm happy they're trying it. Additive manufacturing is pretty cool stuff so I'm excited to see it really making its way into the golf industry. Potentially, but we all know the golfer who's never satisfied. I'm also sure there will still be plenty of off-the-rack consumers for which OEMs will continue to offer a product. Toss in the ability to manufacture parts for another industry (assuming the OEM owns the 3D printing operation and doesn't outsource) provides an alternative for income. The important thing to bear in mind is that this technological shift in manufacturing will take a long time to fully implement and while certain niche products may be offered in the near future, what is discussed in the blog in regard to fully custom, one-off sets is somewhere much further down the road.Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app TR1PTIK 1 Quote DRIVER PXG 0811XF GEN4 (10.5°) FAIRWAY WOODS PXG 0341XF GEN4 (16°) HYBRIDS PXG 0317XF GEN4 (19°), PXG 0317X GEN4 (22°) IRONS PXG 0311T GEN3 (5 - 9) WEDGES TAYLORMADE MG3 (45°, 50°, 55° TW Grind, 60° TW Grind) PUTTER PXG BATTLE READY ONE & DONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I'll get excited when I see the first 3D printed forged iron . I followed this technology over my career in aerospace and it is pretty cool. It was extremely handy and beneficial for design prototypes. downlowkey 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejgaudette Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 11 hours ago, FrogginBullfish said: Additive manufacturing is pretty cool stuff so I'm excited to see it really making its way into the golf industry. I totally agree and am really interested to see how the switch with allow club design to change. How much weight can be saved and moved. Cobra already put a carbon fiber top line on there irons just to save a few grams now this process should save even more weight for even more possibilities. Quote Epic Max LS 9° Ventus Blue 6X (2021 Official Review) | Epic Speed 18° Evenflow Riptide 70g 6.0 816 H1 21° Diamana S+ Blue 70 S | SMS 4-5/SMS Pro 6-PW Steelfiber i95 S (2023 Official Review) Glide 4.0 50°.12°S/54°.14°W/58°.6°T PING Z-Z115 Wedge Flex | SOFT 11S Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Hoofer Bag | Pro V1 | Right Handed | Tracked by V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 22 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Loved your not so subtle suggestion about Bryson wanting to run the machine...hilarious and spot on! Amen! So good! 22 hours ago, GolfSpy Barbajo said: Where they're at now is Parmatech is printing parts - the parts still need to be assembled and finished, so there's still a lot of handwork that needs to be done. They're a long way from squirting out a finished club, but they are working on getting closer. A lot will depend on what a golfer finds acceptable as a finished product. John, the one HUUUUUUUGE point you missed was how Robert will be buying clubs DAILY, not weekly, once this comes to fruition! Heck. I bet he convinces his employer to buy a $20 million printer for his office!!!! JohnSmalls and Golfspy_CG2 2 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 14 hours ago, revkev said: It's a remarkable concept but wouldn't the downside (from an OEM perspective) be that the player will hang on to those personalized clubs far longer than something he bought off the rack or even normally fitted? Hi I''m Rob, we must not have been introduced yet JohnSmalls, PMookie, daviddvm and 2 others 3 2 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grit Golf Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 3D printing has a lot of prototyping potential for the manufacturers as well. I was talking to Markforged 2 years ago (metal and composite 3D printing company) and they said Wilson was an early adopter of their tech. If you look at the quantum leap Wilson took at that time, you can see the value of rapid prototyping. The unsung tech hero I think is going to be metal injection molding. Metal injection molding is being used by cobra on wedges, but with inserts, and multi material construction designs, I think this tech could make its way into mass production of high tech heads in the near term. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote “He’s a Cinderella story. A former assistant groundskeeper about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac… It’s in the hole! It’s in the hole! It’s in the hole!” — Carl Spackler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 This was a fascinating article to write, and my goodness the whole concept of clubs for lefties didn't even enter my mind! The real reason most companies have limited - to non-existent - left-handed options is because the number of left-handed golfers is so small. Making molds for lefties is just as expensive as making molds for righties, but the volume is so much lower. With 3D Metal Jet printing there are no molds, so in theory there's no added to cost to producing left-handed models of virtually anything. I’ve heard 11% to 13% are lefty, not a lot.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver & black Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 7:49 PM, fixyurdivot said: I'll get excited when I see the first 3D printed forged iron . I followed this technology over my career in aerospace and it is pretty cool. It was extremely handy and beneficial for design prototypes. This might be a dumb question, but how do you 3D print a "forged" iron? I'm not a tech savvy guy, so I don't understand how this stuff works...lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, silver & black said: This might be a dumb question, but how do you 3D print a "forged" iron? I'm not a tech savvy guy, so I don't understand how this stuff works...lol. Not a dumb question at all, and the crux of my comment did not escape you . That's why I'll get real excited when the technology delivers that microstructure. silver & black and downlowkey 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Not a dumb question at all, and the crux of my comment did not escape you . That's why I'll get real excited when the technology delivers that microstructure. I guess you aren’t interested in 3D printed golf clubs since you will never get 3D printed and forged; at least in my mind? Casting, milling, forging, and 3D printing are all processes. Milling is the only in that can be combined since it can be used as a cleanup process. Note: This is a question to better understand, not challenge what you are saying. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 9 hours ago, cnosil said: I guess you aren’t interested in 3D printed golf clubs since you will never get 3D printed and forged; at least in my mind? Casting, milling, forging, and 3D printing are all processes. Milling is the only in that can be combined since it can be used as a cleanup process. Note: This is a question to better understand, not challenge what you are saying. As the technology stands presently that's correct. My original comment was more tongue in cheek. Early in my career stereolithography was just emerging and we were fascinated watching a set or servo mirrors direct a laser across a vat of liquid goo and create things that weren't too much advanced of the old put a quarter in the slot and watch the machine spit you out a plastic, still warm to the touch, T-rex . When I left the workforce in 2016, I was impressed with the quality of microstructure of the leading edge technologies in this field. Cracking the nut to yield forged structure may not be too far off. Where I think this application will shine is niche custom clubs with logos or designs that personalize clubs. cnosil 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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