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I just got a text from a friend to tell me he just shot even par for the first time. Of course I congratulated him immediately.  Shortly after, I thought to myself was it par on every hole or were there bogies and birdies.

So here is my question. What would mean more to you as a golfer. 

Shoot par on every hole. You did what the course designer intended.

Or would you rather have a few bogies and some birdies thrown in.. You missed on a few and beat the courses design on a few.

I'm sure all would like to shoot par and would'nt care how they did it.  But pick a side. Thought this might be interesting.

 

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Truth be told, I would take either but since you stated to pick a side I would like to par every hole. I would find it satisfying to play each hole “as it was intended”.


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I would shoot my age if I did either.  Never done that.  I did shoot a 69 once a long time ago at a par 72 course in AZ, but I consider that a fluke.  

I have shot par on both the front nine and back nine at my course, but not in the same round obviously.  I don't recall that any of my 9-hole pars were all pars.  There are too many holes that I have trouble reaching in regulation and bogeys are inevitable for me.  So, if I had to pick one, it would have to be a par round with bogeys and birdies because all pars is highly unlikely.

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I'll take what I can get 😁. It's an accomplishment just breaking 100, 90, 80 or even 70!  

 

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Truth be told I have never parred 18 holes. I have never played not making at least one bogey. So all 18 pars for me. I have shot below par and broken 70, but always have had bogies and birdies and eagles in doing it.

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When someone says they shoot any score I think combination of
Birdies, Pars and bogeys. All
Pars would be fun, but that doesn’t mean you played the hole as intended. On a par 4 driver into the fairway bunker. Second shirt if the green, chunked third, and thinned fourth that hits that flag and drops in is a par, but I don’t think the architect drew it up that way . But yes, an 18 par round would be fun.

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Don't care either way, but I would assume that mine would be birdies, pars and bogies.

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Either way would be fine for me.  Realistically my round would have birdies and bogies.  

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Birdies and bogies. That way I know I can beat the course, and my bad shots are the reason for the bogies. 

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Considering the lack of birdies in my normal rounds I'd take the opportunity to rack up a few on my way to shooting even par.

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I would take 18 pars, the epitome of boring golf. Birdies & bogeys are my normal but I have never had a bogey free round. So if it took 18 pars to do it, sign me up. 

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I would prefer bogeys and birdies, and I would prefer to have the bogeys early and the birdies later.  I'd like the feeling of overcoming my own mistakes.  

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51 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

I would prefer bogeys and birdies, and I would prefer to have the bogeys early and the birdies later.  I'd like the feeling of overcoming my own mistakes.  

Exactly what I was thinking - if I started the round with a few bogies and ended with a few birdies to shoot even par, I'd be ecstatic. If I started with a few birdies and ended with a few bogies to shoot even par, I'd be incredibly disappointed.

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... I have had 18 straight pars only once, and it felt like a tie. It was a course I play a lot and if it were a championship caliber course I was playing for the first time I would feel differently. As cnosil said, it ain't like I hit every fairway, every green and 2 putted. It took some grinding to save pars and some misses to avoid birdies. I much prefer having some variety with bogies and birdies. I had 5 birdies yesterday and 3 bogies. One of the bogies was a topped tee shot that went 30 yards when I tried to tee it up higher than normal and ride the wind ... just dumb as a normal tee shot downwind would leave me a 9i/Pw in anyway. I still almost saved par missing a 10 footer that just didn't break. Plugged in a bunker on a par 3 for another bogie and found a fairway bunker with a 3 wood but right up against the lip and could only 58* myself out for my 3rd bogie. For me at least, much more fun than 18 straight pars. 

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3 minutes ago, gavinski91 said:

Exactly what I was thinking - if I started the round with a few bogies and ended with a few birdies to shoot even par, I'd be ecstatic. If I started with a few birdies and ended with a few bogies to shoot even par, I'd be incredibly disappointed.

I wouldn't go that far, I'd still be reasonably happy with even par, no matter how I got there.  Maybe a little disappointed.

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14 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

I just got a text from a friend to tell me he just shot even par for the first time. Of course I congratulated him immediately.  Shortly after, I thought to myself was it par on every hole or were there bogies and birdies.

So here is my question. What would mean more to you as a golfer. 

Shoot par on every hole. You did what the course designer intended.

Or would you rather have a few bogies and some birdies thrown in.. You missed on a few and beat the courses design on a few.

I'm sure all would like to shoot par and would'nt care how they did it.  But pick a side. Thought this might be interesting.

 

Very good question.

As others indicated, either would be acceptable. Bottom line the type course/condition determines how I answer this question.

IF its a course that is in great condition, medium high slope/course rating and one that has some "test" built in (requires some risk/reward) then the bogies/birdies would be preferred. I say because if I shot par on a course like my example, it means I reached down and took some risk so to speak. Or I did not play overly conservative.

IF its a local course that I consider an "ok" layout and not particularly consistent in course conditions (i.e sometimes greens roll true, sometimes bumpy) and not a very long course than I expect par every hole.

 

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Great question.

Since you asked for a side, and it is too easy for me to make bogies, I would prefer to par every hole. That would be a difficult task for me and feel so satisying.

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Birdies and bogies. That's what happened the 1 time I broke par. I think I needed 5 birds for -1...

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Dave PO43 I thought the same thing until I was 2 under coming into the 18th hole and after a great tee shot hit my second into the green side bunker and it plugged. Ended up shooting even par 72 and felt like I just swallowed a cotton ball. It took all the enjoyment out of the round. I still think about when I get the that 18th hole.

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16 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

I just got a text from a friend to tell me he just shot even par for the first time. Of course I congratulated him immediately.  Shortly after, I thought to myself was it par on every hole or were there bogies and birdies.

So here is my question. What would mean more to you as a golfer. 

Shoot par on every hole. You did what the course designer intended.

Or would you rather have a few bogies and some birdies thrown in.. You missed on a few and beat the courses design on a few.

I'm sure all would like to shoot par and would'nt care how they did it.  But pick a side. Thought this might be interesting.

 

I love me some birdies, and I would love to shot a few bogies, then a few Birdies to get an even par.

I would also be trilled to shoot 18 pars.

Regardless how you answer the question, and play, anyone would still feel like they left something out there.

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Par is Par, anyway you look at it. In my 40+ years of golf, I believe I have only done it once or twice. Interestingly, I most probably have been under par more that exact Par. Best round was -3 and at that stage I was on a 4 handicap (20+ yrs ago).

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... I was thinking of this thread when playing today. I was hitting my T100-S really well and getting off the tee nicely too. I am getting tired of the wind which was around 20 mph today. Seems like we have had only 1 or 2 windless days this spring/summer. It makes putting difficult as well. But enough cry babying, I missed 2 very makable birdie putts and after chipping close after just missing the green from 181 with my trusty 4 iron and that 20 mph wind dead in my face, I realized I had 2 birdies and 2 bogies. Parred 17 and then hit a really nice drive on 18 leaving me 165 to a pin tucked back left over 2 bunkers, wind left to right so the play was go right at the pin and let the wind drift the ball to the middle of the green. I thought "that makes a solid par but only an outside shot at birdie so I started the ball left of the green with a 6 iron and let he wind bring it back to the hole. Landed in the fringe and trickled to about 8 feet.

... Felt like tournament pressure knowing even par puts me back in this thread but a birdie means 1 under par and I could post in How'd You Play instead. Putts just are not breaking like normal this year so I decided to not give the hole away, looked good until the last 6" and just caught the lip on the low side for a tap in par. So here I am. 🤪
 

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Birdies and bogies, baby. Life is a roller coaster, and golf is the same way. 

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I like the diversity of the group. I didn't pick a side myself because I just couldn't figure out what was more rewarding for myself.

 I fortunately have accomplished both. When all the boxes were filled in with par, I felt like I left some birdies out there where I should have been happy with shooting even par. I admit they were not all GIR's. There was some chipping and one putts, so it was still a scramble to shoot even par.

When I scrambled from bogies to birdies I felt like I accomplished more to pull it off in the end. Birdies tend to get you pumped.

I think I'm going with an all par card. This is based on my home course having 3 holes that just always seem to kick my butt. Parring these in the same round would always bring a smile to my face. (only happened once so far).

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Its such a hard game and staying consistent is damn near impossible. I would love to par every hole. Birdies are great and eagles are even better but to stay consistent for 18 holes would be a very rare occurrence. So my answer would be a bogey free round.

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