Tom the Golf Nut Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I just got a text from a friend to tell me he just shot even par for the first time. Of course I congratulated him immediately. Shortly after, I thought to myself was it par on every hole or were there bogies and birdies. So here is my question. What would mean more to you as a golfer. Shoot par on every hole. You did what the course designer intended. Or would you rather have a few bogies and some birdies thrown in.. You missed on a few and beat the courses design on a few. I'm sure all would like to shoot par and would'nt care how they did it. But pick a side. Thought this might be interesting. MDGolfHacker, aerospace_ray, TR1PTIK and 3 others 6 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Tour UST Recoil 95 R Flex (6 - Gap) Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Agera 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment
ParFore74x Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Truth be told, I would take either but since you stated to pick a side I would like to par every hole. I would find it satisfying to play each hole “as it was intended”. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy xOldBenKenobiX, Micah T and silver & black 3 Quote TSi3 10° w/ Mitsubishi Tensei 1K Black 65g TS2 15° 3W w/ Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 70g 818 H1 21° Hybrid w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 70g MP-18 MMC 2 iron w/ KBS Tour C-Taper S 120g JPX 921 HM 5-GW w/ Project X LZ 5.5 115g JB Forged 54° SW & 58° LW w/ Project X LZ 6.0 120g EV5.3 Black Link to comment
ParFore74x Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) Delete Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Edited June 25, 2020 by ParFore74x Double post Quote TSi3 10° w/ Mitsubishi Tensei 1K Black 65g TS2 15° 3W w/ Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black 6.0 70g 818 H1 21° Hybrid w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue 70g MP-18 MMC 2 iron w/ KBS Tour C-Taper S 120g JPX 921 HM 5-GW w/ Project X LZ 5.5 115g JB Forged 54° SW & 58° LW w/ Project X LZ 6.0 120g EV5.3 Black Link to comment
Chizzle Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I take bogie and birdies. Micah T 1 Quote Link to comment
Kenny B Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I would shoot my age if I did either. Never done that. I did shoot a 69 once a long time ago at a par 72 course in AZ, but I consider that a fluke. I have shot par on both the front nine and back nine at my course, but not in the same round obviously. I don't recall that any of my 9-hole pars were all pars. There are too many holes that I have trouble reaching in regulation and bogeys are inevitable for me. So, if I had to pick one, it would have to be a par round with bogeys and birdies because all pars is highly unlikely. cnosil, Micah T, THEZIPR23 and 2 others 5 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment
MDGolfHacker Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I'll take what I can get . It's an accomplishment just breaking 100, 90, 80 or even 70! MDGolfHacker MattF, Rickp and Micah T 3 Quote TSssWhat's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1 / Z*Star RangeFinder: In search of new range finder Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Link to comment
Letthebigdogshunt Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) Truth be told I have never parred 18 holes. I have never played not making at least one bogey. So all 18 pars for me. I have shot below par and broken 70, but always have had bogies and birdies and eagles in doing it. Edited June 25, 2020 by Letthebigdogshunt MattF, Micah T and Larryd3 3 Quote Link to comment
Pandaman Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Ok. Not gonna happen for me either way, but par every hole in a single round would be awesome. Micah T and MattF 2 Quote Link to comment
cnosil Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 When someone says they shoot any score I think combination ofBirdies, Pars and bogeys. AllPars would be fun, but that doesn’t mean you played the hole as intended. On a par 4 driver into the fairway bunker. Second shirt if the green, chunked third, and thinned fourth that hits that flag and drops in is a par, but I don’t think the architect drew it up that way . But yes, an 18 par round would be fun. xOldBenKenobiX, Micah T, TR1PTIK and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
MattF Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Don't care either way, but I would assume that mine would be birdies, pars and bogies. Micah T 1 Quote In the bag: Driver: TSR2 Project X HZRDUS Black 5.5 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Alpha Convoy 514 Balls: Chrome Soft X Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment
Larryd3 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Either way would be fine for me. Realistically my round would have birdies and bogies. Quote TM Sim2 Max 10.5 Ping G410 5 wood Ping G410 7 & 9 woods PXG Gen 5 0311P 5-gap PXG forged 54 & 58 wedges PXG Operator H w/ BGT Stability shaft Link to comment
Nateyeight Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Birdies and bogies. That way I know I can beat the course, and my bad shots are the reason for the bogies. Quote Driver: G425 Max 10.5* 5 Wood: G425 Max 7 Wood: G425 Max Hybrid: TS2 23* Irons: 6 to GW, T300 Wedges: Vokey SM8 50F, 54S, 58K Putter: 1998 Tei3 Newport Long Neck Ball: Yellow Titleist VG3 Bag: Nike Air Hybrid Golf Bag I Love the Art of Putting! Link to comment
TR1PTIK Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Considering the lack of birdies in my normal rounds I'd take the opportunity to rack up a few on my way to shooting even par. Nateyeight 1 Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment
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THEZIPR23 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I would take 18 pars, the epitome of boring golf. Birdies & bogeys are my normal but I have never had a bogey free round. So if it took 18 pars to do it, sign me up. cnosil 1 Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment
DaveP043 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I would prefer bogeys and birdies, and I would prefer to have the bogeys early and the birdies later. I'd like the feeling of overcoming my own mistakes. gavinski91, Nateyeight, cnosil and 1 other 4 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment
gavinski91 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 51 minutes ago, DaveP043 said: I would prefer bogeys and birdies, and I would prefer to have the bogeys early and the birdies later. I'd like the feeling of overcoming my own mistakes. Exactly what I was thinking - if I started the round with a few bogies and ended with a few birdies to shoot even par, I'd be ecstatic. If I started with a few birdies and ended with a few bogies to shoot even par, I'd be incredibly disappointed. Quote Driver - Radspeed XB, Aldila Rogue Silver 70-S 3 Wood - Radspeed, Aldila Rogue Silver 70-S 5 Wood - Radspeed, Fujikura Motore X F3 6-S 7 Wood - 0341x Gen 4, Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw Blue 75-S Irons - Pro 225 4-5, 223 6-PW, KBS $-Taper 120 Wedges - King Cobra Snakebite 52° & 58°, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 S Putter - Stroke Lab Black Ten 35" Ball - Chrome Soft X LS Powered by 2020 ExPutt Official Review | 2021 Cobra Connect Five Participant | 2023 SuperSpeed Official Review Link to comment
chisag Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 ... I have had 18 straight pars only once, and it felt like a tie. It was a course I play a lot and if it were a championship caliber course I was playing for the first time I would feel differently. As cnosil said, it ain't like I hit every fairway, every green and 2 putted. It took some grinding to save pars and some misses to avoid birdies. I much prefer having some variety with bogies and birdies. I had 5 birdies yesterday and 3 bogies. One of the bogies was a topped tee shot that went 30 yards when I tried to tee it up higher than normal and ride the wind ... just dumb as a normal tee shot downwind would leave me a 9i/Pw in anyway. I still almost saved par missing a 10 footer that just didn't break. Plugged in a bunker on a par 3 for another bogie and found a fairway bunker with a 3 wood but right up against the lip and could only 58* myself out for my 3rd bogie. For me at least, much more fun than 18 straight pars. cnosil, palvord and GaDawg 3 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment
DaveP043 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, gavinski91 said: Exactly what I was thinking - if I started the round with a few bogies and ended with a few birdies to shoot even par, I'd be ecstatic. If I started with a few birdies and ended with a few bogies to shoot even par, I'd be incredibly disappointed. I wouldn't go that far, I'd still be reasonably happy with even par, no matter how I got there. Maybe a little disappointed. Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment
aerospace_ray Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 14 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said: I just got a text from a friend to tell me he just shot even par for the first time. Of course I congratulated him immediately. Shortly after, I thought to myself was it par on every hole or were there bogies and birdies. So here is my question. What would mean more to you as a golfer. Shoot par on every hole. You did what the course designer intended. Or would you rather have a few bogies and some birdies thrown in.. You missed on a few and beat the courses design on a few. I'm sure all would like to shoot par and would'nt care how they did it. But pick a side. Thought this might be interesting. Very good question. As others indicated, either would be acceptable. Bottom line the type course/condition determines how I answer this question. IF its a course that is in great condition, medium high slope/course rating and one that has some "test" built in (requires some risk/reward) then the bogies/birdies would be preferred. I say because if I shot par on a course like my example, it means I reached down and took some risk so to speak. Or I did not play overly conservative. IF its a local course that I consider an "ok" layout and not particularly consistent in course conditions (i.e sometimes greens roll true, sometimes bumpy) and not a very long course than I expect par every hole. Quote Link to comment
palvord Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Great question. Since you asked for a side, and it is too easy for me to make bogies, I would prefer to par every hole. That would be a difficult task for me and feel so satisying. xOldBenKenobiX 1 Quote In my Ultralight Stand Bag: Driver: Rogue 10.5° - LH - Project X EvenFlow 60 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff King F9 - LH - 5/6 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff Irons: King F9 - LH - 5-GW - KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° - KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Stiff Putter: - Impact No. 3 Ball: Maxfli TourX Rangefinder: LX5 Watch Link to comment
DiscipleofPenick Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Birdies and bogies. That's what happened the 1 time I broke par. I think I needed 5 birds for -1...Take Dead Aim xOldBenKenobiX 1 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment
Letthebigdogshunt Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Dave PO43 I thought the same thing until I was 2 under coming into the 18th hole and after a great tee shot hit my second into the green side bunker and it plugged. Ended up shooting even par 72 and felt like I just swallowed a cotton ball. It took all the enjoyment out of the round. I still think about when I get the that 18th hole. xOldBenKenobiX 1 Quote Link to comment
xOldBenKenobiX Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 16 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said: I just got a text from a friend to tell me he just shot even par for the first time. Of course I congratulated him immediately. Shortly after, I thought to myself was it par on every hole or were there bogies and birdies. So here is my question. What would mean more to you as a golfer. Shoot par on every hole. You did what the course designer intended. Or would you rather have a few bogies and some birdies thrown in.. You missed on a few and beat the courses design on a few. I'm sure all would like to shoot par and would'nt care how they did it. But pick a side. Thought this might be interesting. I love me some birdies, and I would love to shot a few bogies, then a few Birdies to get an even par. I would also be trilled to shoot 18 pars. Regardless how you answer the question, and play, anyone would still feel like they left something out there. Quote My Reviews: 2023 Official review - Rapsodo MLM2Pro! 2022 Official Review - Edel SMS Wedges 2021 Official Review - Tommy Armour Impact 3 Putter 2020 Official Member Review - BagBoy Chiller Cart Bag Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme - Unofficial Review by xOldBenKenobiX Honma TR21 4 Wood - Unofficial Review by xOldBenKenobiX Driver - Cobra SpeedZone Xtreme 10.5, UST helium 5 Wood - . TR21 4 Wood, Vizard 20-60 and TW GS 5 Wood Vixard FD 55 301 Combo 301CB and 301MB . SMS 48*, 56*, 60* Putter: Lucky golf putter. Ball: : ProV1, :: Smart Sensors. Shoes: a couple :: A couple of A couple of Adidas , Yeah I have a shoe addiction.:: Started at 79mph, finished 1st stage at 91mph Link to comment
silver & black Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I'd be happy with either. But if I had to pick, I'd take par on every hole. Quote Link to comment
Firebird Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Par is Par, anyway you look at it. In my 40+ years of golf, I believe I have only done it once or twice. Interestingly, I most probably have been under par more that exact Par. Best round was -3 and at that stage I was on a 4 handicap (20+ yrs ago). Quote Callaway Epic Flash 9 Degree Callaway Epic Flash 3 wood 15 Degree Callaway Apex 21 Hybrid 19 Degree Callaway Steelhead Pro 4-AW Irons Cleveland 54 Degree Wedge Steel Shaft Recoil Graphite Shafts in all Callaway Cobra Vintage Series Stingray 40 Preferred ball - Seed 001 Link to comment
chisag Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 ... I was thinking of this thread when playing today. I was hitting my T100-S really well and getting off the tee nicely too. I am getting tired of the wind which was around 20 mph today. Seems like we have had only 1 or 2 windless days this spring/summer. It makes putting difficult as well. But enough cry babying, I missed 2 very makable birdie putts and after chipping close after just missing the green from 181 with my trusty 4 iron and that 20 mph wind dead in my face, I realized I had 2 birdies and 2 bogies. Parred 17 and then hit a really nice drive on 18 leaving me 165 to a pin tucked back left over 2 bunkers, wind left to right so the play was go right at the pin and let the wind drift the ball to the middle of the green. I thought "that makes a solid par but only an outside shot at birdie so I started the ball left of the green with a 6 iron and let he wind bring it back to the hole. Landed in the fringe and trickled to about 8 feet. ... Felt like tournament pressure knowing even par puts me back in this thread but a birdie means 1 under par and I could post in How'd You Play instead. Putts just are not breaking like normal this year so I decided to not give the hole away, looked good until the last 6" and just caught the lip on the low side for a tap in par. So here I am. aerospace_ray, Tom the Golf Nut, silver & black and 1 other 2 2 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment
russtopherb Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Birdies and bogies, baby. Life is a roller coaster, and golf is the same way. silver & black 1 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment
Tom the Golf Nut Posted June 26, 2020 Author Share Posted June 26, 2020 I like the diversity of the group. I didn't pick a side myself because I just couldn't figure out what was more rewarding for myself. I fortunately have accomplished both. When all the boxes were filled in with par, I felt like I left some birdies out there where I should have been happy with shooting even par. I admit they were not all GIR's. There was some chipping and one putts, so it was still a scramble to shoot even par. When I scrambled from bogies to birdies I felt like I accomplished more to pull it off in the end. Birdies tend to get you pumped. I think I'm going with an all par card. This is based on my home course having 3 holes that just always seem to kick my butt. Parring these in the same round would always bring a smile to my face. (only happened once so far). silver & black 1 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Tour UST Recoil 95 R Flex (6 - Gap) Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Agera 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment
StrawberryShortCake Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Its such a hard game and staying consistent is damn near impossible. I would love to par every hole. Birdies are great and eagles are even better but to stay consistent for 18 holes would be a very rare occurrence. So my answer would be a bogey free round. Quote Driver: Rogue Sub Zero 9* stiff Wood: Tight Lies TI 3 wood stiff Hybrid: XR 3 19 deg stiff Irons: JPX 900 Tour std loft/lie Wedges: 52,56,60 Putter: #7 Red Ball: Q-Star 12.9 Handicap Comox Valley, B.C. Link to comment
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