GolfSpy AFG Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 6/26/2020 at 2:24 PM, golfingbrock said: Golfingbrock’s HONMA TR20 440 Review Hello friends, My name is Brock, and I am a 37 year old golf nut from Texas. I tested he Honma TR20 440 Driver with a Vizard FP7-X Shaft. I have been playing since I was a kid, and I walked onto my college team and got to play for 3 years with some great players. Though I now don’t play as much as I used to, between family and work, I still get out a few times a month, currently a +2 handicap, and obsess about golf daily. By the way, HUUUGE thanks to MGS and Honma the testing opportunity, and a very understanding wife, as I have gotten out twice as much these last 6 weeks (for research purposes, of course). I bought my current gamer, a Tour Edge XCG7 Beta with an X-Stiff Ozik Matrix Black Tie 44.5” shaft on the Used rack at PGA Tour Superstore in 2015. Before the Tour Edge, I had a Taylormade R7 425 Quad that I found on Ebay. As you may have guessed, I wasn’t ‘fit’ for my gamer, but I did test it against the TM SLDR, Ping G30, Nike Covert, and a few others, and the Tour Edge gave me comparable results at a fraction of the cost, so I took a chance on it. As you can see, I found the center a lot. I let my brother use my Tour Edge while in Utah, because he wasn't touching my Honma. Here's his first swing! My strength has always been my irons, and my driver has become more solid the last few years. I prefer a low/mid flight with low spin since I play in a lot of wind. My normal carry distance is around 260-270 with roll out to 280-300. My go to shot is a draw, but I can miss it both ways if I need to avoid trouble. First impressions: I knew very little about Honma before the review process, other than that they made some really expensive gold-plated clubs (the Beres line), and that Justin Rose played Honma for a year before going back to TM. When the TR20 came out he had some pretty great results immediately, including a 2nd at the Singapore Open (where he averaged 323 yds on 7 measured drives) and a T5 at the Hero World Challenge. As I delved into the company, I learned about their history of over 60 years producing high quality craftsman clubs in Sakata, Japan, and that they build all the components from heads to Vizard (a combination of Victory and Wizard) shafts in house with the utmost quality control. Honma sought to provide the perfect blend of beauty and performance. I hit a TR20 440 with a stock Stiff shaft a few times at PGA Tour Superstore before mine arrived, and it had a great sound and feel, but as it wasn’t tuned to me, it wasn’t any better than my current gamer. For the TR20 to earn a spot in my bag, it would have to give me better distance while maintaining my accuracy, and be a club I can trust under pressure. Grading: Looks: 10/10 This driver has tons of tech inside, but the outside is all class. With several manufacturers going with a matte black finish, the Honma really stands out! From the shiny black top and polished titanium face, to the tasteful gold accents on the carbon fiber woven sole, it almost looks too pretty to hit. The shape is a classic pear shape, and the top of the club has no markings, which I love! The club sits very nice and square at set up, and gives me confidence to swing away. Honma starts the process by hand carving the shape of the head out of a block of Mississippi persimmon by the craftsmen in Japan. Once that was perfect, they built a very light titanium frame so that they could position the adjustable weights in the perfect spots, and added the ET40 carbon crown and the woven carbon sole. The Headcover is also high quality, and not only protects the club, but makes the bag look really sharp! Sound/Feel: 9/10 The sound is a nice THWACK when you hit it in the center. It’s not too muted or too tinny. Mis-hits have a bit more reverb and a slightly deeper tone. One of my playing partners says it even sounds fast! It feels smooth like a persimmon when you hit the center of the face, but it feels a heavy when you miss it high or on the toe. But you can feel exactly where on the face you missed it, so the feedback response is great. It feels slightly worse than my gamer on mis-hits(-1), but the added feedback is nice. Basic Characteristics: 19/20 Trajectory: The TR20 has a good mid-ball flight when I have it set at 8.5. I can flight it high or low as as needed, but normal launch is 14° Workability: This driver is much more stable than what I had before, and while I can work it a bit, it is harder to curve with precision than my old gamer (-1) Accuracy: I can tell a definite improvement in dispersion, and the results are repeatable with good swings. I had several in a row on the simulator and range that were almost identical. This is much harder to do on the course! Distance: On the course it seems to be at least 10-15 yards longer. The simulator showed significant gains in clubhead and ball speed, carry distance, and total distance! Forgiveness: While you can definitely feel mis-hits, they aren’t overly penal and are still within 10-15 yards of good strikes. Adjustability: With the 3 sole weight adjustments that provide high MOI, low spin, or draw bias, and 4 hosel adjustment options to change the loft up or down 1 degree or lie up to 2 degrees upright, there are multiple options to fine tune to the best possible option. There are two 3g weights, and 1 9g weight. I tried them all! Under Pressure –If I know I need to carry a distance (up to around 270), I feel confident that will be no problem with a solid swing. On a tight hole I trust my fairway finder swing to keep me in play. I now know I can hit driver off the deck if needed. On Course Performance: (28/30) Overall, how did it Perform? Overall, the Honma has performed exceptionally on the course. My first round, while playing with bruised ribs, but aided by elevation, ibuprofen and beer, I hit several over 300 (and a couple near 350) on a mountain course. When I got back to my home course, the gains were still there, and even had a few wedges and short irons into par 5’s. I had 1 bad driving round, but dialed in the adjustments, and now this thing is money. This driver, like any driver can still miss big right or left with just the wrong swing! In my last round, after laying up short of a creek with a 285 yard carry to clear, I pegged a 2nd ball to see if I the Honma could clear, and when I arrived, it was sitting in the fairway 50 yards past the creek! How, if at all, did this product change your impression of the Honma? I went from knowing next to nothing about Honma to a true believer in a few short weeks. Pure class from customer service to clubs. What feature would you change or eliminate from the next generation of this model? The weight adjustments are nice and intuitive. I love that the shaft stays in the same alignment with all the loft and lie adjustments. But I wish extra weights came with the clubs, including 6g and 12g to provide more adjustability options. Then again, too many options might drive a tinkerer mad! Here's my videos with several swings and sounds. My favorites are the reactions from partners when it's hit! Miscellaneous: 10/10 Although we weren’t able to get fit in person, @PrestonAtHonma took the time with each of us to get us into a great driver. We talked specs and our game for 40 minutes @PMookie and perhaps others can speak to the premium fitting experience. Though I had wondered if any other shaft or loft option would have been chosen with a fitting, once I hit it I knew I had the right club. As I was travelling the week the driver was set to ship, Preston was able to get the driver sent to our Airbnb in Utah so that the package wasn’t left on the porch. Throughout the process, Preston was available for feedback and adjustment help. Also, it was comforting knowing that our clubs were assembled by Master club builder “Wedge Wizard” Jason Sanborn. The packaging, tooling and adjustment instructions were all included, and making adjustments is easy, though the Japanese to English translation in the instructions was a bit confusing at times. Play it or Trade it? 19/20 I gifted my Tour Edge driver to my brother-in-law today, who just recently started playing. As much as I loved that club, it’s been replaced in the bag by Honma! The Honma TR20 is made for the low to mid handicapper with refined taste. The ‘TR’ in the model number stands for ‘Tour Release’. This club performs better than my current gamer by quite a good margin, so the Honma will definitely stay in my bag. If I had the option to keep the 440 or go with the 460, I'm fairly certain I would keep the 440. As a budget conscious golfer who’s never been fit for clubs or purchased a brand-new driver, I’m not necessarily the target audience for $750 premium driver. However, as a low handicapper trying to get the most out my game, I feel confident that this will help me play my best golf. Conclusion: This is a serious club with great tech that should be strongly considered with the bigger name brands if you are in the market for a custom fit driver. I have gained yards, have shorter clubs into greens on average, and am consistently in play. The fine-tuning loft and weight adjustments can also help really dial in the swing. Although this club might not be for everyone, it is in my opinion the sexiest driver on the market. It’s a great conversation starter with playing partners, and it’s fun to see the awe on their face when it pops off the club face! With their quality craftsmanship and now with the Honma House in Carlsbad, Ca and the Tour experience fitting vans available, I expect big things for Honma in the US and in a lot more bags over the next few years. At the start of the process, before I talked with Preston, and before I swung the club, I expected my review to be much more critical, but here we are with an A+! Disclaimer: When @PrestonAtHonmaasked why I chose the 440 over the 460, I told him that it improved my odds of being picked, because a majority of the applicants picked the 460 FINAL SCORE: 95/100 Nice review brother; both you and @Judge Smails. Was a little concerned I was being a cupcake about it...nice to see you both also rated it highly. JudgeSmails and golfingbrock 2 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfingbrock Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said: Nice review brother; both you and @Judge Smails. Was a little concerned I was being a cupcake about it...nice to see you both also rated it highly. Thanks. I thought you were being soft too til I added up my own score I had it mostly written and had to trim it down before I did scores. It was a lot of work and range sessions, and I definitely had a few days where I didn't hit it well on the range. But I think a lot of that was fatigue and trying all the adjustment options. The head to head numbers were mind blowing Best thing for me now is to keep the adjustment instead of tinkering. PrestonAtHonma 1 Quote Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 3 Wood: Adams TightLies Titanium 3+ - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2. 16.5°- Stock Shaft- Stiff Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0 56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60° Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfingbrock Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 3:05 PM, Tpoole22 said: Great review, glad to see that it worked out so well for you. So do you think that after testing this club and improving from your current gamer that you could justify spending $650 on it? Seems like a lot but you aren't the only one that has mentioned the great quality a few times. Quality is top notch. I was looking at potentially Hogan, Tour Edge, or Sub70 when I got the Honma. Even the mid-priced drivers are expensive to me, but if you have the budget to maximize your golf game, or if you are a tournament player looking for return on investment, I certainly think the Honma holds it's own against any of the bigger name brands GolfSpy AFG 1 Quote Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 3 Wood: Adams TightLies Titanium 3+ - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2. 16.5°- Stock Shaft- Stiff Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0 56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60° Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeSmails Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Damn, So far i've given it the lowest rating and I frickin' LOVED it.....haha GolfSpy AFG, cnosil, PrestonAtHonma and 1 other 1 3 Quote Driver: TR20 10.5* Hybrids: Epic SuperHybrid 3 18* Epic 4h 23* Irons: JPX900 Hot Metal 5-GW Wedges: CBX2 52* 56* 60* Putter: EV8 Ball: Tour BXS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfingbrock Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, JudgeSmails said: Damn, So far i've given it the lowest rating and I frickin' LOVED it.....haha I went through the reviews of some other recent driver tests, and so far the Honma averaged higher than the rest, Currently at 95.66% pending @DPattGolf review. I know @Getoffmylawn is a big softy, but I felt like you and I were pretty critical . PrestonAtHonma, GolfSpy AFG and JudgeSmails 2 1 Quote Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 3 Wood: Adams TightLies Titanium 3+ - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2. 16.5°- Stock Shaft- Stiff Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0 56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60° Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Hey man, I don’t have the driving game you seem to have...you give this big softy a big boost in ball speed, accuracy and carry and hell yeah I’m going to rate it high! All kidding aside, I’ve kicked the tires on a lot of drivers over the past year and the TR20 has easily been the best. It’s a quality club, and I think I also got very lucky in being selected to test a club that to my surprise works especially well for me. JohnSmalls, golfingbrock, PrestonAtHonma and 1 other 3 1 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfingbrock Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said: Hey man, I don’t have the driving game you seem to have...you give this big softy a big boost in ball speed, accuracy and carry and hell yeah I’m going to rate it high! All kidding aside, I’ve kicked the tires on a lot of drivers over the past year and the TR20 has easily been the best. It’s a quality club, and I think I also got very lucky in being selected to test a club that to my surprise works especially well for me. No doubt. I had some crazy numbers with the TM Sim back in January, just hitting around at the PGA store, but wondering if those numbers were inflated. Also no clubhead speed given, and I had done a few super speed swings beforehand. But the spin numbers were incredible, whether real or not... Wondering if a 12g or 15g weight up front would reduce the spin more cc: @PrestonAtHonma GolfSpy AFG and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 3 Wood: Adams TightLies Titanium 3+ - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2. 16.5°- Stock Shaft- Stiff Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0 56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60° Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellken Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 UNOFFICIAL Review - just my thoughts on the Honma TR20 460 w/FD-5R shaft It is a beautiful driver - shiny black with a silver face, and, no alignment marks. Some how, this works great for me, and, I am able to set up with the ball in the middle of the club face (I, only, add this, as, it took me a few driving range sessions with my Ping G400 max before I could set up with the ball in the middle of the club face - I wear high index glasses, which, mess with depth perception.). My initial thoughts on performance were not favorable, - high, spinny, and, near slices. For a short hitter, getting less distance was kind of horrifying. If I were shopping for a driver, I would have returned to this immediately. It was that kind of awful. But, I was reviewing the driver, so, I started to tinker with the driver, and, switched the heavy weight from the back to the front. (NOTE: I have had some Cobra golf clubs, and, the heavier weight in the front was always worse for me.) But, surprisingly, with the TR20, with the heavier weight in the front, I started to hit draws without (to me) any loss in forgiveness, and, I started to get my normal distance, and, possibly a little more. (At this point I should give a shout out to Preston, who managed to fit me over the phone surprisingly well. I think I am at the point, where I don't need to make any more adjustments to driver setup. The driver performs, but, it doesn't swing itself, and, I need to be consistent in my set up and tee height. Otherwise, spin does become an issue due to angle of attack.) I actually really like the TR20 now, after, I got the driver setup to my swing. I think to me, one of the most positive attributes of the TR20 is the ability to set it up for your swing. And, I am not sure, but, it seems the Vizard shaft really seems to help me to hit the ball in the middle of the club face. I think the only thing that holding the TR20 back is the price, and, the abundance of marketing of its competitors. golfingbrock, PrestonAtHonma, GolfSpy AFG and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonAtHonma Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 16 hours ago, golfingbrock said: No doubt. I had some crazy numbers with the TM Sim back in January, just hitting around at the PGA store, but wondering if those numbers were inflated. Also no clubhead speed given, and I had done a few super speed swings beforehand. But the spin numbers were incredible, whether real or not... Wondering if a 12g or 15g weight up front would reduce the spin more cc: @PrestonAtHonma Brock, no doubt a 12g or 15g up front would knock some spin down. But also need to tell you it will bump up swingweight a bit and you may feel that. Happy to send a 12g and 15g out to you if you wanna try it out. Shoot me a text or email if so. thanks also for your review. So glad you enjoyed it and glad it's launching rockets!! JohnSmalls, GolfSpy AFG and golfingbrock 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPattGolf Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 After far too much delay my Review of the Honma TR20 is officially live!! golfingbrock, GolfSpy AFG and JohnSmalls 3 Quote * Staff Professional* Driver: Stealth Plus+ (7.25*) - Fujikura Ventus Black 6X Tipped 1" 3 Wood: Stealth Plus+ (14.25*) - Fujikura Ventus Blue 7x Tipped 1" Driving Iron: P790 UDI 2 iron - HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 100 6.5 4 Iron: P790 - KBS C-Taper 130 X Irons (5-7) P7MC - KBS C-Taper 130 X Irons (8-P) P7MB - KBS C-Taper 130 X Wedges: MG3 Black 50.09 / 55.11 - KBS TOUR FLT 130 X 60* Wedge: High Toe Raw - KBS Tour 130 X Putter: Custom Black ER2 or Custom Black Del Monte Bag: FlexTech Stand Bag Glove: Tour Preferred Glove Ball: TP5X #11 RangeFinder: R1 Smart Rangefinder Instagram: @dpattgolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfingbrock Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, DPattGolf said: After far too much delay my Review of the Honma TR20 is officially live!! Two things: 1. 4 out of 4 testers exteremely satisfied with the Honma 2. I need some speed training to keep up with these young bucks JohnSmalls, Golfspy_CG2 and GolfSpy AFG 3 Quote Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 3 Wood: Adams TightLies Titanium 3+ - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2. 16.5°- Stock Shaft- Stiff Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0 56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60° Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, DPattGolf said: After far too much delay my Review of the Honma TR20 is officially live!! Worth the wait man; nice job. golfingbrock and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfingbrock Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 12:44 PM, PrestonAtHonma said: Brock, no doubt a 12g or 15g up front would knock some spin down. But also need to tell you it will bump up swingweight a bit and you may feel that. Happy to send a 12g and 15g out to you if you wanna try it out. Shoot me a text or email if so. thanks also for your review. So glad you enjoyed it and glad it's launching rockets!! Thanks again @PrestonAtHonma for the weight kit. Put the 15g weight up front and had my best driving so far. Several over 300 in wet conditions, and my biggest bomb so far! Now I can keep up with @DPattGolf JohnSmalls, Tpoole22, gavinski91 and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 3 Wood: Adams TightLies Titanium 3+ - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2. 16.5°- Stock Shaft- Stiff Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0 56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60° Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Had a first in my golf career this weekend...won long drive in a tourney! Hit one 287 directly into a 15 mph wind. I'll take some of the credit, but man do I love my TR20! Golfspy_CG2, PrestonAtHonma, gavinski91 and 5 others 6 2 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfingbrock Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said: Had a first in my golf career this weekend...won long drive in a tourney! Hit one 287 directly into a 15 mph wind. I'll take some of the credit, but man do I love my TR20! What was the prize? Hope it wasn't a new driver GolfSpy AFG and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 3 Wood: Adams TightLies Titanium 3+ - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2. 16.5°- Stock Shaft- Stiff Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0 56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60° Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, golfingbrock said: What was the prize? Hope it wasn't a new driver Nah man, $50 pro shop gift card, which I'll burn on my 7-year old's next set of US Kids clubs... If it was a new driver I'd be returning that for merch credit...the Honma ain't coming out of the bag for a loooooong time. JohnSmalls and golfingbrock 2 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejcrossl Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 10:44 AM, PrestonAtHonma said: Brock, no doubt a 12g or 15g up front would knock some spin down. But also need to tell you it will bump up swingweight a bit and you may feel that. Happy to send a 12g and 15g out to you if you wanna try it out. Shoot me a text or email if so. thanks also for your review. So glad you enjoyed it and glad it's launching rockets!! Just won a TR20 and was concerned about trying to "fit it" to beat my gamer. Hit some at PGA Superstore, but they just don't have the options right for me. I felt I need a little head weight and stiffer shaft. Would love to discuss with you a bit if avail? Also on the weights, I also think I would benefit from a little more up front and maybe some on the toe (fight the hooks). Don't see any options to purchase them. Have some demo's I can try out :). golfingbrock 1 Quote Driver - Taylormade M5 10.5 (set to 9.75 deg and 1.5 open) Fujikura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 7x 3 wood - TM M3 17 deg (set to 15.5 deg and 3 deg open) GD DI 7x 3 Hybrid - TM rocketballz Accra Dymatch S165, 68g, M5 flex (XS) Irons (4-5) - Srixon 585s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Irons (6-W) - Srixon 785s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Wedges (51, 56, 60) - Cleveland RTX4 Nippon Modus 125 Wedge Flex Putter - EvnRoll ER5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejcrossl Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 These reviews are very encouraging with an new TR20 on it's way. I'll try to collect data vs my TM M5 and post the results. Anyone on here have a GC Quad in their basement @PMookie, where did you get it fit with a Ventus? What was the difference you got with that vs the Vizard? GolfSpy AFG and golfingbrock 2 Quote Driver - Taylormade M5 10.5 (set to 9.75 deg and 1.5 open) Fujikura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 7x 3 wood - TM M3 17 deg (set to 15.5 deg and 3 deg open) GD DI 7x 3 Hybrid - TM rocketballz Accra Dymatch S165, 68g, M5 flex (XS) Irons (4-5) - Srixon 585s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Irons (6-W) - Srixon 785s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Wedges (51, 56, 60) - Cleveland RTX4 Nippon Modus 125 Wedge Flex Putter - EvnRoll ER5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, ejcrossl said: These reviews are very encouraging with an new TR20 on it's way. I'll try to collect data vs my TM M5 and post the results. Anyone on here have a GC Quad in their basement @PMookie, where did you get it fit with a Ventus? What was the difference you got with that vs the Vizard? I was fitted by the Honma rep at a CC here in-town. I contacted him directly and set it up., he had the Ventus. There was a good enough difference in performance to pay the upcharge, but I don’t remember the exact numbers. golfingbrock and GolfSpy AFG 2 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, ejcrossl said: Just won a TR20 and was concerned about trying to "fit it" to beat my gamer. Hit some at PGA Superstore, but they just don't have the options right for me. I felt I need a little head weight and stiffer shaft. Would love to discuss with you a bit if avail? Also on the weights, I also think I would benefit from a little more up front and maybe some on the toe (fight the hooks). Don't see any options to purchase them. Have some demo's I can try out :). Nice! How did you win it? Martin Chuck's IG feed? Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejcrossl Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Getoffmylawn said: Nice! How did you win it? Martin Chuck's IG feed? Ding Ding Ding!!!!! golfingbrock 1 Quote Driver - Taylormade M5 10.5 (set to 9.75 deg and 1.5 open) Fujikura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 7x 3 wood - TM M3 17 deg (set to 15.5 deg and 3 deg open) GD DI 7x 3 Hybrid - TM rocketballz Accra Dymatch S165, 68g, M5 flex (XS) Irons (4-5) - Srixon 585s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Irons (6-W) - Srixon 785s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Wedges (51, 56, 60) - Cleveland RTX4 Nippon Modus 125 Wedge Flex Putter - EvnRoll ER5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Congrats. I've been entering the hybrid and 3 wood posts but no luck so far...fingers crossed... ejcrossl 1 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejcrossl Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said: Congrats. I've been entering the hybrid and 3 wood posts but no luck so far...fingers crossed... Not to be greedy, but will be throwing my hat in the ring for the iron giveaways!!! golfingbrock 1 Quote Driver - Taylormade M5 10.5 (set to 9.75 deg and 1.5 open) Fujikura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 7x 3 wood - TM M3 17 deg (set to 15.5 deg and 3 deg open) GD DI 7x 3 Hybrid - TM rocketballz Accra Dymatch S165, 68g, M5 flex (XS) Irons (4-5) - Srixon 585s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Irons (6-W) - Srixon 785s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Wedges (51, 56, 60) - Cleveland RTX4 Nippon Modus 125 Wedge Flex Putter - EvnRoll ER5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonAtHonma Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 3 hours ago, ejcrossl said: Just won a TR20 and was concerned about trying to "fit it" to beat my gamer. Hit some at PGA Superstore, but they just don't have the options right for me. I felt I need a little head weight and stiffer shaft. Would love to discuss with you a bit if avail? Also on the weights, I also think I would benefit from a little more up front and maybe some on the toe (fight the hooks). Don't see any options to purchase them. Have some demo's I can try out :). Happy to discuss with you. Shoot me an email whenever convenient: [email protected] ejcrossl, bellken and golfingbrock 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfingbrock Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 19 hours ago, ejcrossl said: Just won a TR20 and was concerned about trying to "fit it" to beat my gamer. Hit some at PGA Superstore, but they just don't have the options right for me. I felt I need a little head weight and stiffer shaft. Would love to discuss with you a bit if avail? Also on the weights, I also think I would benefit from a little more up front and maybe some on the toe (fight the hooks). Don't see any options to purchase them. Have some demo's I can try out :). Wow, congrats! I also hit some at the PGA store before and after mine came in, and agree that the stock shaft isn't for me, but the upgraded Vizard shafts available through Honma is great. I hit it well and liked it before, but having the weight kit and being able to put a 15g up front is huge for me. I've thought about trying other weights in other positions instead of the 3g, but I like the way it's working now. Since there isn't a toe weight option(other than lead tape), maybe the heavier front/back weights would counter balance the lighter heel weight to give you the feel you want. Maybe @PrestonAtHonma can give you some insight on the weight options, but I would say to try every possible configuration to get the numbers dialed in. bellken and ejcrossl 2 Quote Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 3 Wood: Adams TightLies Titanium 3+ - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2. 16.5°- Stock Shaft- Stiff Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0 56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60° Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfingbrock Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 16 hours ago, PrestonAtHonma said: Happy to discuss with you. Shoot me an email whenever convenient: [email protected] Ha, didn't see the new pages of comments and that Preston already responded. Preston is the man! Quote Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 3 Wood: Adams TightLies Titanium 3+ - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2. 16.5°- Stock Shaft- Stiff Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0 56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60° Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejcrossl Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, golfingbrock said: Wow, congrats! I also hit some at the PGA store before and after mine came in, and agree that the stock shaft isn't for me, but the upgraded Vizard shafts available through Honma is great. I hit it well and liked it before, but having the weight kit and being able to put a 15g up front is huge for me. I've thought about trying other weights in other positions instead of the 3g, but I like the way it's working now. Since there isn't a toe weight option(other than lead tape), maybe the heavier front/back weights would counter balance the lighter heel weight to give you the feel you want. Maybe @PrestonAtHonma can give you some insight on the weight options, but I would say to try every possible configuration to get the numbers dialed in. Thanks for the feedback, will be fun to play with it for sure golfingbrock 1 Quote Driver - Taylormade M5 10.5 (set to 9.75 deg and 1.5 open) Fujikura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 7x 3 wood - TM M3 17 deg (set to 15.5 deg and 3 deg open) GD DI 7x 3 Hybrid - TM rocketballz Accra Dymatch S165, 68g, M5 flex (XS) Irons (4-5) - Srixon 585s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Irons (6-W) - Srixon 785s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Wedges (51, 56, 60) - Cleveland RTX4 Nippon Modus 125 Wedge Flex Putter - EvnRoll ER5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoole22 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, ejcrossl said: Thanks for the feedback, will be fun to play with it for sure Glad at least one of us has been able to win one! Let us know how it compares to your current gamer. ejcrossl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfingbrock Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 There haven't been any comments in a couple weeks, but wanted to update and let you know I'm still hitting bombs. Played in a tournament this weekend and drove a couple par 4's for easy 2 putt birdies. One of them flew 320 over trouble and stuck on the green. GolfSpy AFG 1 Quote Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 3 Wood: Adams TightLies Titanium 3+ - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2. 16.5°- Stock Shaft- Stiff Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0 56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60° Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejcrossl Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 As far as adjustments go, anyone know what the S and H stand for under the Face Angle adjustment? Quote Driver - Taylormade M5 10.5 (set to 9.75 deg and 1.5 open) Fujikura Pro 2.0 Tour Spec 7x 3 wood - TM M3 17 deg (set to 15.5 deg and 3 deg open) GD DI 7x 3 Hybrid - TM rocketballz Accra Dymatch S165, 68g, M5 flex (XS) Irons (4-5) - Srixon 585s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Irons (6-W) - Srixon 785s Nippon Modus Pro 120x Wedges (51, 56, 60) - Cleveland RTX4 Nippon Modus 125 Wedge Flex Putter - EvnRoll ER5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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