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2 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Yeah, I get it, I know MSG doesn't expect everyone to swing like Adam Scott to be a tester. I just want to put out reliable information.

It doesn't help when @golfingbrock and @DPattGolf are casually pumping out 300+ yard drives and you realize you're the short one in the group!  😬  

This is the exact reason we try to get a good mix of player ability and swing speeds in each testing.  it wouldn't help the overall forum if we had 4 testers all with 110 plus swing speeds or 4 scratch players.    By having a variety most people on the forum can find one player that is similar to their profile and follow his/hers results. 

BTW, I think 90% or more of the forum would take an 80 any day of the week and run! 

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6 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

This is the exact reason we try to get a good mix of player ability and swing speeds in each testing.  it wouldn't help the overall forum if we had 4 testers all with 110 plus swing speeds or 4 scratch players.    By having a variety most people on the forum can find one player that is similar to their profile and follow his/hers results. 

BTW, I think 90% or more of the forum would take an 80 any day of the week and run! 

Good point; appreciate the feedback.

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FW: :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: SIM DHY 3 & 4H, Diamana Limited Hybrid 75g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Project X 6.0

Wedges::vokey-small:SM8 54 S Grind, 60 M Grind

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My social practice 9 holes turned into 18 yesterday.  I played halfway decent given no warm up and a general feeling of not wanting to get too intense or immersed in the round for the sake of the rest of the group, who are mostly non-golfers who were there for the drinks.  I spent less time reading putts, made some very quick club selections, etc.  

That said, I drove it VERY well...11 of 14 fairways hit, and with several drives in the high 280s/low 290s.  After my very first drive missed right I made the decision right there to move the heavy weight to the heel and never looked back.

I had hoped to have a few video files to post here, but my cameraman (wife) didn't seem to track my intent and instead started capturing the group, surrounding scenery, etc.  I'll do better on that the next time...

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Driver: :honma:TR20 460, Vizard 60g Stiff

FW: :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: SIM DHY 3 & 4H, Diamana Limited Hybrid 75g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Project X 6.0

Wedges::vokey-small:SM8 54 S Grind, 60 M Grind

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2 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

My social practice 9 holes turned into 18 yesterday.  I played halfway decent given no warm up and a general feeling of not wanting to get too intense or immersed in the round for the sake of the rest of the group, who are mostly non-golfers who were there for the drinks.  I spent less time reading putts, made some very quick club selections, etc.  

That said, I drove it VERY well...11 of 14 fairways hit, and with several drives in the high 280s/low 290s.  After my very first drive missed right I made the decision right there to move the heavy weight to the heel and never looked back.

I had hoped to have a few video files to post here, but my cameraman (wife) didn't seem to track my intent and instead started capturing the group, surrounding scenery, etc.  I'll do better on that the next time...

 So, one of the videos caught the sound of the driver pretty well, with some mildly amusing comments from the gallery...

 

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Hybrids: :taylormade-small: SIM DHY 3 & 4H, Diamana Limited Hybrid 75g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Project X 6.0

Wedges::vokey-small:SM8 54 S Grind, 60 M Grind

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4 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

 So, one of the videos caught the sound of the driver pretty well, with some mildly amusing comments from the gallery...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDa_rf1fvr4&feature=youtu.be

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3 minutes ago, B.Boston said:

Video is currently private 🙄

Doh!

Shouldn't be anymore; try again.  (Wonder if that's why I couldn't get the video to show up in the thread, just the link?)

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FW: :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: SIM DHY 3 & 4H, Diamana Limited Hybrid 75g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Project X 6.0

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1 minute ago, Getoffmylawn said:

Doh!

Shouldn't be anymore; try again.  (Wonder if that's why I couldn't get the video to show up in the thread, just the link?)

nice.  sounds like you got all of that one! haha

that's an awesome looking tee box, where is that?

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Just now, B.Boston said:

nice.  sounds like you got all of that one! haha

that's an awesome looking tee box, where is that?

Shoreline Golf Course in Council Bluffs, Iowa, but right on the edge of the Nebraska-Iowa border.

That's the 14th tee box, this is the view from the 13th tee box...

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This is actually from the ladies tee when my wife was teeing off, but you get the idea.  Fun tee shot from the tips, all about how aggressive a line you want to take.  I hit a good one here too...had 65 yards in.

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FW: :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: SIM DHY 3 & 4H, Diamana Limited Hybrid 75g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Project X 6.0

Wedges::vokey-small:SM8 54 S Grind, 60 M Grind

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26 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

 So, one of the videos caught the sound of the driver pretty well, with some mildly amusing comments from the gallery...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDa_rf1fvr4&feature=youtu.be

This club definitely impresses the ladies

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26 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

 So, one of the videos caught the sound of the driver pretty well, with some mildly amusing comments from the gallery...

 

"Oh My Gosh!"  pretty much nails it.  LOL

That swing looks to have a bit of Brooks Keopka in it!  Nice job!

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Welcome Preston....Glad to have you active here on the thread and forum.  I'm enjoying reading about the driver so far and looking forward to hearing about everyone's results.  

Rob 

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Looks like everyone is hitting them pretty good right now.
Have you noticed a difference in your ball flight? Is it a higher or lower trajectory?

Do you attribute the gain in distance to more carry or roll or maybe both.

I’m assuming the Vizard shaft is a “ Made for” shaft since it looks like you all ended up with some variance of it. How’s the feel.....whipping? Stiff?

Keep up the good work!


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7 hours ago, PrestonAtHonma said:

Hi everyone,

My name is Preston Toulon and I'm the Product and Custom Club Manager at Honma Golf USA. Our friends at MGS here were kind enough to invite me to join the conversation.

First of all, thanks to the testers and the folks willing to give our stuff a shot. By the looks of it, things seem to be going nicely with possibly some opportunity to tinker more and find even better combinations. All you testers have my cell number, so call me if I can help more.

Thanks also to the folks following along in the conversation. Honma is still relatively unknown in the western market and we're working hard every day to win over more and more golfers. Obviously being less known, there are probably some questions about our stuff out there and I'm more than happy to answer any questions any of you have about our product line or our shafts or whatever. We've generally found if we can get our product into golfer's hands, more often than not they enjoy it.

If there's anything I can answer please don't hesitate to ask.

Wishing all good health and good golf.

Robbe Trout is one HECK of a rep. Class act, knowledgeable, great guy!!! I’ve worked with him a few times, and even got a few buddies to give y’all a shot through Robbe’s fittings. So far, one of the three has bought a full-set of irons, and the driver! 
Thanks for jumping-in! The products, the reps, customer service, and Wedge Wizard building my set of irons are ALL incredible!!!

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Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4/5, Tour V 6-10, Dynamic Gold X100

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35 minutes ago, TBT said:

Looks like everyone is hitting them pretty good right now.
Have you noticed a difference in your ball flight? Is it a higher or lower trajectory?

Do you attribute the gain in distance to more carry or roll or maybe both.

I’m assuming the Vizard shaft is a “ Made for” shaft since it looks like you all ended up with some variance of it. How’s the feel.....whipping? Stiff?

Keep up the good work!


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It’s hard to quantify “made for” in the Honma situation as they build the shaft in the same factories as the clubs. They are proprietary to Honma, not “knockoffs”, or even UST/etc with a different paint job like Ping does. Vizard is Honma, owned by Honma, manufactured by Honma. I would say “made by” would be a better descriptor since we all know “made for” has a completely different connotation.

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Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4/5, Tour V 6-10, Dynamic Gold X100

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Another video from a range session last night attempting to capture the sound.  3 shots, the second is a high-on-the-face miss. I was practicing with the teaching pro at this course and he was really impressed with the club, and the drives I was hitting.  We play together quite a bit so he knows my game, to include my gamer driver, and he was impressed.

I know I'm offering lots of subjective input at the moment; I'll be getting numbers next weekend.

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Hybrids: :taylormade-small: SIM DHY 3 & 4H, Diamana Limited Hybrid 75g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Project X 6.0

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19 hours ago, PrestonAtHonma said:

Hi everyone,

My name is Preston Toulon and I'm the Product and Custom Club Manager at Honma Golf USA. Our friends at MGS here were kind enough to invite me to join the conversation.

First of all, thanks to the testers and the folks willing to give our stuff a shot. By the looks of it, things seem to be going nicely with possibly some opportunity to tinker more and find even better combinations. All you testers have my cell number, so call me if I can help more.

Thanks also to the folks following along in the conversation. Honma is still relatively unknown in the western market and we're working hard every day to win over more and more golfers. Obviously being less known, there are probably some questions about our stuff out there and I'm more than happy to answer any questions any of you have about our product line or our shafts or whatever. We've generally found if we can get our product into golfer's hands, more often than not they enjoy it.

If there's anything I can answer please don't hesitate to ask.

Wishing all good health and good golf.

For the rest of the forum, Preston is the real deal.  Preston spent a lot of time trying to get to a good fit over the phone given COVID, and he's certainly followed up since.  I ended up calling him last week to talk about some adjustments, and like a dumb arse forgot about the time zone difference and ended up calling him at 7:30 in the morning!  He was fine with it...in fact he was up to watch Tiger at the Memorial anyway, and spent as much time just talking golf as he did the driver adjustment.

Welcome to the community Preston!

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FW: :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: SIM DHY 3 & 4H, Diamana Limited Hybrid 75g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Project X 6.0

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12 hours ago, TBT said:

Looks like everyone is hitting them pretty good right now.
Have you noticed a difference in your ball flight? Is it a higher or lower trajectory?

Do you attribute the gain in distance to more carry or roll or maybe both.

I’m assuming the Vizard shaft is a “ Made for” shaft since it looks like you all ended up with some variance of it. How’s the feel.....whipping? Stiff?

Keep up the good work!


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I'm in the stock 60g which is more of a mid-mid shaft; it has a stiff tip and a soft mid-section for speed.  I really like it.  The best comparison I could offer is that it feels stiffer than an Evenflow but not as stiff and more kick than a HZRDOUS...I can definitely perceive the kick but I wouldn't call it whippy.  I'm seeing the mid-flight that I wanted, and I don't get any ballooning like I occasionally got with my gamer.  I don't have the numbers to back it up yet, but I suspect the gains are largely more carry than roll.

As @PMookie already put it, yeah these stock shafts are "made for" but made by Honma for Honma, and they're certainly not the same in concept as the watered-down "made for's" from other OEMs.  I've got one of those...the T800 made for HZRDOUS that came with my gamer Epic, that was painted to look like a T1100 but did't play like it at all.  Honma swears by their stock Vizard shafts as high-end, made from high-quality and high-strength materials.  I for one am convinced.

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Hybrids: :taylormade-small: SIM DHY 3 & 4H, Diamana Limited Hybrid 75g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Project X 6.0

Wedges::vokey-small:SM8 54 S Grind, 60 M Grind

Putter: :EVNROLL: ER7B 

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12 hours ago, TBT said:

Looks like everyone is hitting them pretty good right now.
Have you noticed a difference in your ball flight? Is it a higher or lower trajectory?

Do you attribute the gain in distance to more carry or roll or maybe both.

I’m assuming the Vizard shaft is a “ Made for” shaft since it looks like you all ended up with some variance of it. How’s the feel.....whipping? Stiff?

Keep up the good work!


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I had a bit of an injury the day I got the club, and still not quite 100%, but due to the fit and what I was looking for, the ball flight is very similar to my old driver, maybe a touch lower. The flight is piercing and low spin, so on the few where I hit both drivers outside, it seemed to go slightly longer than my gamer. If anything, I'm turning the ball over slightly more with the Honma so I have had to adjust my alignment a bit, possibly because I'm using a midsize grip instead of the over-sized grip in in my gamer.  Center hits feel and sound great, and off center toe/heel/high/low on the face definitely provide feedback but still seem to have decent distance and fly pretty straight.

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Looks like everyone is hitting them pretty good right now.

Have you noticed a difference in your ball flight? Is it a higher or lower trajectory?

 

Do you attribute the gain in distance to more carry or roll or maybe both.

 

I’m assuming the Vizard shaft is a “ Made for” shaft since it looks like you all ended up with some variance of it. How’s the feel.....whipping? Stiff?

 

Keep up the good work!

 

 

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Only had a few range sessions and 1 round with it so far but it seems to be coming out of a similar window as my TS3. Possibly a little lower even.

 

Distance wise it’s hard for me to compare right now. I value carry distance significantly over total because I can count on carry distance regardless of dry or wet fairway conditions.

 

As the others have said, the Vizard shaft is definitely not a “Made For” product. I would put it right up there with some of the best quality shafts u can buy. Only difference is that it seems that Honma doesn’t sell their Vizard shafts on their own and the only way you can get ahold of one is with the purchase of a Honma club.

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