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Next, I hit the Callaway MAVRIK:

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Here's how the Honma TR20 shook out against it:

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Once more, if you remove the high-spin outlier from the Honma data, the average ball speed becomes 143.7, average carry 242.8, and average distance 265.1.  And again, I know only three shots on the MAVRIK border on being statistically irrelevant.  

That said, I can say I've always gotten along well with Callaway drivers, and the MAVRIK was no different.  I didn't mind it, and among the other OEMs out there that's probably where I'd look.  That said, I can subjectively tell you it didn't hold a candle to the Honma in the sound and feel department, and as you can see based on the limited data it wasn't producing the numbers like the Honma was either.

Then, I tested the SIM:

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Actually, no I didn't.  I nearly broke out in hives and got sick to my stomach, and put it back on the shelf.  Sorry, I don't want to offend anyone and maybe it's great for somebody, but I have an aversion to all things TaylorMade and a quick look at this didn't help.  A "made for" shaft that is painted like and actually called a Ventus, but has no Velocore technology and is therefore not really a Ventus?  No thanks.

Sorry to get off topic there, or I did I?  I am really liking the stock Vizard shaft, and yeah it's made for, but it's made for Honma by Honma in Japan with premium materials, not made in China with watered down materials and represented to be something else.

But I digress.  I did end up making the adjustments @PrestonAtHonmarecommended and took it out on the course yesterday,, more on that later...

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On 8/3/2020 at 12:22 PM, Getoffmylawn said:

Alright, here goes...so I got on a launch monitor at GolfTEC in Omaha and got some comparables between the TR20 and my current gamer.

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I wasn't putting very good swings on it, with either club, but if golf is a game of misses then here is some data on which club gave me the better misses.  I'll give you the raw data first, then provide some comments on my challenges as a driver of the golf ball and this session overall.

So, I first hit some shots with the TR20.  These were almost all blocks, which is my typical miss.  Then came my old Callaway Epic.  Here are those numbers:

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So, at first glance, ball speed is up with the Honma, and so is spin, while average carry and overall distance goes to the Epic.  However, the bigger/better shots are in the Honma, it's just the averages that it lost on.  (Granted, small sample size here.)

I then went back to the Honma, being a little more warmed up at that point.  These are the second set of Honma numbers, compared to the same Epic data set:

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So, ball speed is up with the Honma by roughly 4 mph, carry by 5 yards, distance is about the same.  However, there is a mega-high spin miss in the second Honma test of 3800 RPM spin, 218 carry, and 236 total...obviously a big miss that I should have deleted from the data.  If you take that shot out, average ball speed becomes 143.7, carry becomes 242.8, and average distance becomes 265.1.

So, on what i would call a bad ball-striking day with the club I struggle with the most, the Honma TR20 proved to be an upgrade over my gamer.  My spin numbers are all over the place to the point that I might tinker a bit more, but still, I'm otherwise convinced this club is a very good fit for me.  I know, because I also tested a few other clubs!

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I'll post those results later in the week!  (Got to keep readers coming back...) For now, let me hit you with my caveats and I'll let you take them or leave them...

1)  I'm not a very good driver of the golf ball.  I'm not awful, but I'm not good either.  With almost every other club I put what I think is an athletic swing on the ball, but with driver I have a very hard time being loose and athletic versus using some kind of barbarian smash swing.  Case in point, after testing these, I spent the next 30 minutes doing a gap analysis of the top end of my bag.  I hit my 3-wood off the deck for 5 shots, and my lowest ball speed number was 141, and I averaged 143.  That's right, same as driver. My coach attributed it to comfort level, and tempo, and said he sees it all the time actually.  For one thing, you're a little close to the sweet spot with 3 wood, but maybe more importantly, most people accept a certain yardage with the 3 wood versus an "as far as you can" mentality with driver.  The latter is definitely me.  (I also would say I hate hitting in bays, but now I'm just whining...)

2)  I had already played 18 before I ever got to the fitting, had been having a few drinks the night before, hadn't had lunch...excuse excuse excuse.  Point is, I was a little gassed and it showed...my swing speed never got past 103 and I'm usually at 105ish, and those blocks I hit usually happen when I don't post up on my left side and start sliding a little more.  Sorry if I fouled up the experiment...we're all human.

Let me know your thoughts and ask any questions.  More testing goodness to come!

Same 3-4 mph of ball speed I got vs Epic Flash SZ! Sweet!!!!! Helluva club!!!

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So last week @PrestonAtHonmarecommended that I make an adjustment to the TR20 based on some higher than desired spin I shared in a previous post.  This was the adjustment:

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The heavy weight has been moved out of the draw bias position into the forward spot, with the intent of scrubbing off a few 100 RPM of spin.  Did it work?  I think so...played and practiced last night and if my Bushnell is to be believed, I got some out in the 280-290 range, which is bomb-territory for this guy.  I plan to get on a launch monitor again this Sunday to actually measure the difference.

But while I was as it I figured it might be beneficial to touch on the "Non-Rotating System" Honma uses, which is unique but has been described as "non-intuitive." I tried to take a video of this, but I don't have a third hand so hopefully a few pics tell the story.

First, the stock setting...notice that little white notch.

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And now here's the tool...notice that little tab at the end under the white line?

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So, to make your adjustment, you insert the tool into the screw like any other, but that tab on white line on the tool inserts into the white notch on the adapter.  Then, you need to put the grip end into the floor to keep tension on it...once you loosen the screw, you then keep one hand on the top part of the wrench and use the other to twist the white line into the orientation you want, like so...

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Once you have it where you want it, tighten it back down until you get two loud audible clicks (which come from the wrench not the club), and you're done.  The manual offers a breakdown of the orientations available and the impact on loft, lie and face angle..

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Different isn't it?  But, I can't say I mind it or find it otherwise awkward, and the benefit of the non-rotating system is that Honma spine aligns their shafts...the system keeps the shaft in a neutral position, which equates to improved consistency of impact.

I know I've been nothing but positive about this club, so here's one small gripe, and @PrestonAtHonmaalready knows this because he brought it up on the phone before I did...this manual ain't North America ready; clearly written by somebody for whom English may not have even been his second language.  For example..

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I'm pretty sure "Precautions of Detouching" means "Don't let go."  I know, this is ticky-tack and nothing to do with club performance, but I've got to find something to criticize right?

18 and then a trip to a launch monitor this Sunday!

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4 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

So last week @PrestonAtHonmarecommended that I make an adjustment to the TR20 based on some higher than desired spin I shared in a previous post.  This was the adjustment:

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The heavy weight has been moved out of the draw bias position into the forward spot, with the intent of scrubbing off a few 100 RPM of spin.  Did it work?  I think so...played and practiced last night and if my Bushnell is to be believed, I got some out in the 280-290 range, which is bomb-territory for this guy.  I plan to get on a launch monitor again this Sunday to actually measure the difference.

But while I was as it I figured it might be beneficial to touch on the "Non-Rotating System" Honma uses, which is unique but has been described as "non-intuitive." I tried to take a video of this, but I don't have a third hand so hopefully a few pics tell the story.

First, the stock setting...notice that little white notch.

IMG_4068.jpg.3cf2399999f9fce372859a457e188055.jpg

And now here's the tool...notice that little tab at the end under the white line?

IMG_4069.jpg.2a33513293a826f45c9076446e6904f8.jpg

So, to make your adjustment, you insert the tool into the screw like any other, but that tab on white line on the tool inserts into the white notch on the adapter.  Then, you need to put the grip end into the floor to keep tension on it...once you loosen the screw, you then keep one hand on the top part of the wrench and use the other to twist the white line into the orientation you want, like so...

IMG_4070.jpg.a25703e2bcde63ef02108a2e678ace0c.jpg

Once you have it where you want it, tighten it back down until you get two loud audible clicks (which come from the wrench not the club), and you're done.  The manual offers a breakdown of the orientations available and the impact on loft, lie and face angle..

IMG_3957.jpg.0633e9eb0d2245573955b690b1570354.jpg

Different isn't it?  But, I can't say I mind it or find it otherwise awkward, and the benefit of the non-rotating system is that Honma spine aligns their shafts...the system keeps the shaft in a neutral position, which equates to improved consistency of impact.

I know I've been nothing but positive about this club, so here's one small gripe, and @PrestonAtHonmaalready knows this because he brought it up on the phone before I did...this manual ain't North America ready; clearly written by somebody for whom English may not have even been his second language.  For example..

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I'm pretty sure "Precautions of Detouching" means "Don't let go."  I know, this is ticky-tack and nothing to do with club performance, but I've got to find something to criticize right?

18 and then a trip to a launch monitor this Sunday!

I think it is "Precautions of Detaching". With most other OEM's, adjustable shafts, the screw stays attached to the head, but, with  Honma, the adjustment ring and screw can fall out.

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On 8/7/2020 at 7:16 PM, bellken said:

I think it is "Precautions of Detaching". With most other OEM's, adjustable shafts, the screw stays attached to the head, but, with  Honma, the adjustment ring and screw can fall out.

Yeah, fair enough, but still, you get my point...a rough translation in spots.

Btw, you were right about moving the weight forward.  Unlocked some distance for me, and I seem to be more accurate despite it not being in high MOI setting...maybe I've just gotten to know it better. 

I'll post most recent launch monitor info soon.

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Another round in the books, another pretty good day by my standards for fairways hit with the TR20:

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Not a good day with the flatstick, but that's for another thread.

The TR20 continues to turn heads with the sound, and the distance.  My regular playing partners have noticed I'm getting them out there farther than I have been.  Again, several long ones in the 280-290 range.

I got on a launch monitor yesterday to validate the heavy-weight-forward setting too, and I'll post that soon.  The adjustment unlocked some distance for me to say the least...

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Finally had some time to mess around with the adjustments and what I have settled on so far seems to possibly be a BIG winner for the few early range sessions over the standard loft and weight settings I started with. Should be getting its first on course run tomorrow and if all goes well it will get its first tournament run next week at Wine Valley GC during the NW Open.

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4 hours ago, DPattGolf said:

Finally had some time to mess around with the adjustments and what I have settled on so far seems to possibly be a BIG winner for the few early range sessions over the standard loft and weight settings I started with. Should be getting its first on course run tomorrow and if all goes well it will get its first tournament run next week at Wine Valley GC during the NW Open.

What adjustment did you make? Weights only? lofts only? Weights and loft?

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Loving these reviews guys! It looks like everyone so far has seen some good distance gains! 

I noticed that @golfingbrock said that he hasn't been fit before and @Getoffmylawn has spent a good bit of time at golftec judging by his posts, but I'm curious as to whether the other two were fit for their current drivers before trying out the Honma and how much they can say that being fitted for the Honma along with the interchangeable weight system helped with any distance gains?

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On 8/10/2020 at 9:49 PM, Tpoole22 said:

Loving these reviews guys! It looks like everyone so far has seen some good distance gains! 

I noticed that @golfingbrock said that he hasn't been fit before and @Getoffmylawn has spent a good bit of time at golftec judging by his posts, but I'm curious as to whether the other two were fit for their current drivers before trying out the Honma and how much they can say that being fitted for the Honma along with the interchangeable weight system helped with any distance gains?

I think adjusting the loft up a bit from 8.5 to 9.5 helped my launch angle a bit.  I played around today with the weights.  results were very similar weather 9g weight was in the front or the back, but seemed like slightly more spin when weight was up front.  I also did some more testing w/ my old gamer and a buddie's M6, and Honma was the clear winner, though the gamer wasn't too bad.  I'll have the numbers w/ my official review, but here's a thread of a few of my Honma swings:

 

 

 

 

 

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On 8/10/2020 at 8:48 AM, Getoffmylawn said:

Yeah, fair enough, but still, you get my point...a rough translation in spots.

Btw, you were right about moving the weight forward.  Unlocked some distance for me, and I seem to be more accurate despite it not being in high MOI setting...maybe I've just gotten to know it better. 

I'll post most recent launch monitor info soon.

Props to you for actually reading the manual. I just looked at the pictures😁

It is pretty cool, that, the heavy weight forward gave you more distance and accuracy. It is kind of surprising to be more accurate with a lower MOI setting. 

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What adjustment did you make? Weights only? lofts only? Weights and loft?

I lofted down to 7.5* and moved the 9gram weight from the front to the back
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So I finally had a chance to get out on the course yesterday for the first time since making some adjustments to the TR20 and I would say the early results are pretty great. IMG_0927.PNG.b8f85a3129ffe894fc09aea6a18e5271.PNG

 

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16 hours ago, bellken said:

Props to you for actually reading the manual. I just looked at the pictures😁

It is pretty cool, that, the heavy weight forward gave you more distance and accuracy. It is kind of surprising to be more accurate with a lower MOI setting. 

I was very surprised...I actually chalk that up to the subjective not-controlled-environment nature of testing.  My last fitting session I was out of gas quickly and not hitting it well...sliding all over.  Hit it much more in the center of the clubface this time around...

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My apologies for being a bit tardy with the follow up, but here are the results of a new fitting session with the Honma TR20, this time with the weight forward based on @PrestonAtHonma's recommendation.  Needless to say, it's clearly the setting for me...

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I'll do a more direct comparison when I post my final review, but these are substantial gains over my old gamer.  Nearly 10 total yards average, much greater ball speed, and my long ones were significantly longer than the old stick.  For example, longest drive here reached 280, as compared to 263 with the gamer!

Obviously we're not in a controlled setting, so a number of variables factor in.  I'm sure I was swinging much better than the last session, but the results speak for themselves I'd say.

Final review coming soon....

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38 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

My apologies for being a bit tardy with the follow up, but here are the results of a new fitting session with the Honma TR20, this time with the weight forward based on @PrestonAtHonma's recommendation.  Needless to say, it's clearly the setting for me...

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I'll do a more direct comparison when I post my final review, but these are substantial gains over my old gamer.  Nearly 10 total yards average, much greater ball speed, and my long ones were significantly longer than the old stick.  For example, longest drive here reached 280, as compared to 263 with the gamer!

Obviously we're not in a controlled setting, so a number of variables factor in.  I'm sure I was swinging much better than the last session, but the results speak for themselves I'd say.

Final review coming soon....

Man do I love seeing this! 14 launch and 2400 spin is a fitter's dream. You are maxing that thing out and I'm pumped. And seeing @DPattGolf and @golfingbrock get after it too is awesome. Always available to all you guys if you need some more adjustment.

@DPattGolf love your idea of lofting down and moving the weight back. Super intuitive and looks like you're seeing the benefit. @golfingbrock feel free to shoot me a text if you wanna do some more fiddling with the weights based on what you're seeing. 

Keep it up guys!

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I tried to de-loft down to 7.5 like @DPattGolf, but after a couple of holes and bad low pulls, I decided to make an illegal adjustment on course back to my previous setting.  I may experiment with it again, as it might be a good adjustment in the wind.  

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:honma: 💣Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 💣

:adams-small:3 Wood:  Adams TightLies Titanium 3+  - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct

:taylormade-small:Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2.  16.5°-  Stock Shaft- Stiff

image.png.5094bf65d200d3ff7ef5ed059993dfb4.png Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF

:mizuno-small::cleveland-small:Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0  56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60°

:odyssey-small:Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip

:taylormade-small:Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth

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On 8/10/2020 at 9:49 PM, Tpoole22 said:

Loving these reviews guys! It looks like everyone so far has seen some good distance gains! 

I noticed that @golfingbrock said that he hasn't been fit before and @Getoffmylawn has spent a good bit of time at golftec judging by his posts, but I'm curious as to whether the other two were fit for their current drivers before trying out the Honma and how much they can say that being fitted for the Honma along with the interchangeable weight system helped with any distance gains?

Hey, sorry, I just realized there was a bit of a question in there I could have followed up on.

I've actually never been fit for a driver before, gamer included.  I've embraced the "get fit" creed in the last year or two, and am now rocking custom fit 919 Forged irons, but my gamer (Epic) was only fit in the sense of a big box retail fitting.  I don't know what everyone's experience in that environment is, but mine was to try a bunch of different clubs and have the "fitter" tell me "here's the one that fits you best among our current inventory" and then walk out of the store with that club.

My TR20 fitting for this test was COVID impacted and accomplished by phone, but I'd tested drivers a couple months ago so I was able to speak to my numbers with some confidence.  I have to say I am really really impressed with the stock 60g Stiff Vizard I'm testing.  

And, as you can see from some of my more recent posts, the interchangeable weight system DEFINITELY contributes to appreciable changes in ball flight dynamics.

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Driver: :honma:TR20 460, Vizard 60g Stiff

FW: :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: SIM DHY 3 & 4H, Diamana Limited Hybrid 75g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Project X 6.0

Wedges::vokey-small:SM8 54 S Grind, 60 M Grind

Putter: :EVNROLL: ER7B 

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Tested the Honma TR20 460 driver

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Went to the range during lunch with my Honma and Tour Edge, and my cell phone(camera). I feel like I'm back up to full swing speed, so I was able to rip at a few balls.  I hit a bunch of high beautiful bombs, and then checked the camera and realized it wasn't recording.  So I started over, hit some more, and got into a great rhythm.  I got back to review the footage, and realized my phone overheated and my video didn't save 🤬

The office GIF on GIFER - by Zulkishicage

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:honma: 💣Driver: Honma TR20 440 8.5° w/ Vizard FP-7X SHAFT - REVIEW POSTED 💣

:adams-small:3 Wood:  Adams TightLies Titanium 3+  - Shaft Bassara E55 x5ct

:taylormade-small:Hybrid: Taylormade RBZ 2.  16.5°-  Stock Shaft- Stiff

image.png.5094bf65d200d3ff7ef5ed059993dfb4.png Irons: SUB70 639 CB 4-PW w/ Nippon Modus 120 X-STIFF

:mizuno-small::cleveland-small:Wedges: GW: SUB70 Raw 48° Mizuno Mp series 52 SW: Cleveland RTX 2.0  56° LW: Mizuno JPX 900 60°

:odyssey-small:Putter: Odyssey White Ice Sabertooth- Superstroke Slim 3.0 grip

:taylormade-small:Bag: Taylormade FlexTech Lifestyle Carry bag- Houndstooth

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Sorry I haven't posted much this week...my 3 year old daughter broke her leg earlier in the week so I've been hesitant to head to the course and leave the wife with the kids by herself.

But, I'll get out Sunday and then likely post my review that night.  If you've read my posts, you won't be surprised to know I'm going to rate the TR20 driver pretty damn high.

So high, in fact, that I'm going to kick some tires on some other Honma clubs.  Preston at Honma, as responsive as ever, put in touch with Honma's rep out of Denver, who will be cruising through the Omaha area with the mobile fitting van in mid-to-late September.  

And here's hoping these are available to try by then!  These showed up on the Honma Golf Malaysia IG feed earlier in the week, and thanks to @PMookiefor sending me the link to more images of Honma's new TR21 series fairways and hybrids!

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A little off topic, but I think they look damn good.  If they sound, feel, and perform like the TR20 driver I'm going to picking them up.  Fingers crossed they're available to try soon...?

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Driver: :honma:TR20 460, Vizard 60g Stiff

FW: :tour-edge: CBX 119 3w, 15,  Project X Evenflow Blue 75g Stiff

Hybrids: :taylormade-small: SIM DHY 3 & 4H, Diamana Limited Hybrid 75g Stiff

Iron: :mizuno-small:JPX 919 Forged 5-GW, Project X 6.0

Wedges::vokey-small:SM8 54 S Grind, 60 M Grind

Putter: :EVNROLL: ER7B 

:SuperSpeed:

Tested the Honma TR20 460 driver

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