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I just bought a PXG 0811XF Gen2 driver with the PX HZRDUS Smoke Yellow (6.0).

 

It does not say ‘small batch’ and I’m assuming it is a made for version of the small batch. Can anyone confirm?

 

Anyone have any info on the specs for this shaft (if different)?

 

 

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Small batch refers to the TX version of the hzrdus smoke line. There are currently no made for hzrdus shafts in either smoke or original version

 

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I was coming here to ask the same question.... I just purchased a new Titleist TS3 with the smoke yellow. This week I saw the small batch version which is $300 compared to the standard version that can be purchased new for around $100.

Whats the difference? Is the small batch that much better?

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It just means tighter tolerances, which does require more handling and higher labor costs, but they definitely slap a premium on it for the name and exclusivity too. Same thing as Tour Issue versions of Dynamic Gold I assume. 

I doubt it matters much for normal golfers, some Pros have their equipment so in-tuned that the extra tight tolerance gives them confidence that a new shaft in a club or in their back up clubs won't change their preferred set up (i.e., with club speeds, launch angles, etc.)

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8 hours ago, bacchus said:

It just means tighter tolerances, which does require more handling and higher labor costs, but they definitely slap a premium on it for the name and exclusivity too. Same thing as Tour Issue versions of Dynamic Gold I assume. 

I doubt it matters much for normal golfers, some Pros have their equipment so in-tuned that the extra tight tolerance gives them confidence that a new shaft in a club or in their back up clubs won't change their preferred set up (i.e., with club speeds, launch angles, etc.)

There are no higher labor costs. All the shafts are made in their Asian factory. The px Hzrdu smoke shafts are still a premium after market shaft this when buying from an aftermarket dealer one will pay for the price of the shaft. PX has worked with the various club companies to have their shafts offered as stock. 
 

If one pays for the small batch shaft that is the 6.5tx in most cases. There are some non 6.5tx shafts that have small batch label.

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I remember going into detail about this in one of the other shaft threads.  

Small batch is hand rolled by Larry in San Diego.  Regular version is factory made.  Same exact shaft profile and materials, but the small batch has some extra care and attention.  

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8 minutes ago, Slater said:

I remember going into detail about this in one of the other shaft threads.  

Small batch is hand rolled by Larry in San Diego.  Regular version is factory made.  Same exact shaft profile and materials, but the small batch has some extra care and attention.  

Nothing is rolled in San Diego anymore.  While the Handcrafted stuff was rolled in San Diego, the Small Batch stuff is now made in Asia somewhere.

 

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:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
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Oh wow, I didn't know that.  I just rolled my own Smoke Yellow there in October.  Thanks for the info.

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1 hour ago, Slater said:

I remember going into detail about this in one of the other shaft threads.  

Small batch is hand rolled by Larry in San Diego.  Regular version is factory made.  Same exact shaft profile and materials, but the small batch has some extra care and attention.  

Jlukes nailed it. Larry was one of a handful of rollers in San Diego which is why I chuckle when people talk about tighter tolerances. There’s going to be some tolerance difference between each person that rolls a shaft.

53 minutes ago, jlukes said:

Nothing is rolled in San Diego anymore.  While the Handcrafted stuff was rolled in San Diego, the Small Batch stuff is now made in Asia somewhere.

 

I believe they are made in the same factory as the rest of the px graphite shafts.

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Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

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12 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Jlukes nailed it. Larry was one of a handful of rollers in San Diego which is why I chuckle when people talk about tighter tolerances. There’s going to be some tolerance difference between each person that rolls a shaft.

I believe they are made in the same factory as the rest of the px graphite shafts.

The funny thing is the tolerances weren't any better, it was just that after the shafts were made they were measured more precisely and labeled as such.

Non hand crafted Hzrdus yellow 6.0 63g are all labeled 63g regardless if they weight 62, 63, 64 or even 65g

handcrafted hzrdus yellow 6.0 are labeled with the precise weight.  So you might see a hand crafted shaft labeled 62g or 64g.

The profile of the shaft is exactly the same.

Kudos to PX on the marketing job they do with handcrafted/small batch.

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:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW Oban CT 115 X(-)
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22 minutes ago, jlukes said:

The funny thing is the tolerances weren't any better, it was just that after the shafts were made they were measured more precisely and labeled as such.

Non hand crafted Hzrdus yellow 6.0 63g are all labeled 63g regardless if they weight 62, 63, 64 or even 65g

handcrafted hzrdus yellow 6.0 are labeled with the precise weight.  So you might see a hand crafted shaft labeled 62g or 64g.

The profile of the shaft is exactly the same.

Kudos to PX on the marketing job they do with handcrafted/small batch.

They are really good at it and some people were convinced they felt the difference between an HC and a non and that they performed differently but had  launch monitor data supporting it. The mind is a funny thing

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Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

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18 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

They are really good at it and some people were convinced they felt the difference between an HC and a non and that they performed differently but had  launch monitor data supporting it. The mind is a funny thing

It is tapping the very essence of branding and price point.  Golf equipment that is marketed as being more unique and "better" as well as being priced higher will really have that impact on a lot of consumers

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:ping-small: G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X
:titelist-small: 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X
:mizuno-small: MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X
:mizuno-small: JPX 919 Tour 5-PW Oban CT 115 X(-)
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