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Hi everyone, 

A big goal for me this year is to trying and become a better and more consistent ball-striker. At one point, I was playing my best golf with a little 5 yard fade and was primarily an arm swinger. Recently, I started watching some of George Gankas's videos based on his incorporation of the Snead/Tiger squat that starts the downswing. I was particularly intrigued because I am looking to engage my lower body more in my swing to use the ground to generate more speed and a consistent strike. As of now, I generate a good amount of distance in my clubs. I was swinging the driver around 103 mph and 89 mph with irons on average today at my local Golf Galaxy. While, I'm not necessarily looking to add tons of yardage, I would like to get back to hitting the ball relatively straight and a bit more consistent. 

I spent a range session incorporating some of his techniques from YouTube videos and played a round afterwards. I was really striking the ball very well and gained a lot of speed and maintained a relatively straight ball flight with a 5-10 yard sweeping draw. I looked to Gankas's model primarily to get rid of the left-side miss. I have always found that pulls and hooks have gotten me in a bit more trouble.

However, I have been developing a bit more of a push with a very slight fade as a miss that is problematic. One thing that Gankas is all about is keeping the club at the top of the swing while you engage and rotate your lower body and chest through the ball. When done properly, I can strike it rather consistently and rather online to the target. However, I have been extending a bit early and getting back to my arms-only swing habits. 

Wondering if anyone has any experience with Gankas's model and/or other thoughts on other instructors to check-out to get a bit more consistent?

 

Cheers.

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This thread has lots of discussion on GG

 

 

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My $0.02. There are lots of swing approaches and they all work and all can help you become more consistent. What it will Come down to is how much you are willing to invest in the overhaul since this probably isn’t an overnight fix.

Don’t look at pros and what approach they follow, they spend all day hitting balls and working on mechanics because it is their job and they can make something that may not be ideal for them work simply because if the time they put into it.

GG has an approach that works and if it resonates with you then by all means follow his approach.

Good luck on you road to improvement.

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45 minutes ago, cnosil said:

My $0.02. There are lots of swing approaches and they all work and all can help you become more consistent. What it will Come down to is how much you are willing to invest in the overhaul since this probably isn’t an overnight fix.

Don’t look at pros and what approach they follow, they spend all day hitting balls and working on mechanics because it is their job and they can make something that may not be ideal for them work simply because if the time they put into it.

GG has an approach that works and if it resonates with you then by all means follow his approach.

Good luck on you road to improvement.

Great post and really sums up golf instruction. The one thing that is consistent amongst many of the instructors is the need to shallow the shaft and rotation.

Bradley Hughes teaches based of the old school principles and how he learned from Norman and uses videos of all the great ball strikers past and present to show how their takeaway and backswings were all different but they used the same principles of ground forces and shallow shaft that he calls the 430 path. He talk about letting the arms and the swing bring the hips around instead of rotating open early.

GG is about matchups and each person does things differently has drills and such for getting matchups to sync.

Many talk about the hip bump but they go about it differently. Some talk about the bump and other talk about it occurring naturally as Force is applied back into the feet in transition. 
 

There’s different thoughts about swing plane and being on plane the entire swing and others like Bradley Hughes that show how the best ball strikers out there are actually under plane and on plane only matters after contact.

Someone like Mike Adams who dives deep into the biomechanics as do some others. 

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I coach high school golf in the area of SoCal GG is based, and had a kid who had him as a swing coach. And I had the distinct pleasure of coaching against Matt Wolff.  

One common element, they can all mash the ball. 

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4 hours ago, cnosil said:

My $0.02. There are lots of swing approaches and they all work and all can help you become more consistent. What it will Come down to is how much you are willing to invest in the overhaul since this probably isn’t an overnight fix.

Don’t look at pros and what approach they follow, they spend all day hitting balls and working on mechanics because it is their job and they can make something that may not be ideal for them work simply because if the time they put into it.

GG has an approach that works and if it resonates with you then by all means follow his approach.

Good luck on you road to improvement.

The keywords here are "isn’t an overnight fix".

With whichever coach and methodology you decide to go, you need to have a lot of dedication to follow the process from beginning to end, a lot of us would love to have the one lesson fix, but it is not plausible, you see pros who change their coaches have also a long road to achieve their goals, specially if the goal is to built an overall better game.

If you have found that GG's swing process is improving your game, stick with it, and learn how to turn those misses into advantages.

Best of luck in the road ahead.

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Really hard for someone to make a major change to a swing. When my Pro rebuilt my swing, I was 27 and on a 18 handicap. He stated that I had to be prepared too...

Play badly for 12-18 months.
Hit 400+ balls a week. 4 x 100 was what I was told to do.

The biggest issue was getting the drill correct and then transferring that to hitting balls. The key was having a video camera that could record you range session. Nowadays with apps like V1 they would make it much easier. It took me about 8 months before I finally started to get consistency, within 12 my handicap had dropped to 7-8 and continued to drop.

BTW, the original goal was to hit a draw, however I found that my miss was a hard draw or worse a hook. In the end Ray my pro had me change it to a wee fade. It made a huge difference.

Mind you in order for me to maintain a 4-7 handicap I needed to playing 3+ rounds a week and hitting at least 2 range sessions plus hitting 100 ball before every round.

Luckily I lived 5 min from the club, the bad news was that back then we had to go pick up the balls we hit at the range.

 

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