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So Bryson's diet is apparently a big deal today, even in mainstream media...there's a write-up on Fox News.

Honestly, I'm not all that blown away by the total calorie count...it's really not that hard to eat that many calories, especially if you've got steak and bacon on the menu.  In fact it's easy if you are relying on shakes as much as he is.  

What it is is damn expensive.  I drink two shakes a day on my workout days, but I'm drinking the MuscleTech stuff from Sam's Club that's $30 for a 5-gallon tub.  This Orgain stuff that he's drinking is $20 for 1 pound.  At 7 shakes a day he's going through a 1 pound container every two days at least.

I know financially in his position that's not an issue, but it's certainly not an every man's diet for bulking up.

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Sounds rather constipating to me.  That many protein shakes cannot be healthy.  I don't care what anyone says.

Edit to add; Absolutely no fruits or vegetables unless those make up his "snacks while practicing."  Sounds a bit like trying to feed a middle school kid.

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In one ear and out the other with stuff like this. It's unsustainable for most.

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wow... he must poop a lot.

also - they need to show what his workout routine is along with this diet. If he is consuming that many calories he's also got to balance it with some type of workout. We're only seeing half the picture here.

they do this type of stuff with the "world's strongest man" thing and it's kinda ridiculous. 
Look, he eats 4 steaks, a dozen eggs, 4 chickens and washes it all down with a massive veggie/protein/turbo shake!!

 

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36 minutes ago, sixcat said:

Sounds rather constipating to me.  That many protein shakes cannot be healthy.  I don't care what anyone says.

Edit to add; Absolutely no fruits or vegetables unless those make up his "snacks while practicing."  Sounds a bit like trying to feed a middle school kid.

Shakes are healthy and are supplements. He’s probably consuming 240+g of protein. Not easy to get that in while not being at the house for every meal. The shakes are a supplement to eating 

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8 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Shakes are healthy and are supplements. He’s probably consuming 240+g of protein. Not easy to get that in while not being at the house for every meal. The shakes are a supplement to eating 

The "supplement" industry is the least regulated industry in the world. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/06/supplements-make-tobacco-look-easy/488798/

Pretty damning when the past 6 Directors of the Department of Health and Human Services compared supplements and their effects on the US population to be as bad as big tobacco! 

I'll pass!

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16 minutes ago, sixcat said:

The "supplement" industry is the least regulated industry in the world. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/06/supplements-make-tobacco-look-easy/488798/

Pretty damning when the past 6 Directors of the Department of Health and Human Services compared supplements and their effects on the US population to be as bad as big tobacco! 

I'll pass!

I don’t disagree that there’s issues within the supplement industry and a lot of the issues revolve around supplements like fat burners and nowhere in that article does it talk about issues with protein shakes. 

You won’t find a reputable trainer that doesn’t talk about it being ok to use protein shakes to help meet protein needs. The number of them that would say consuming 7 a day is probably low but I have seen several including those with PHDs in nutrition that say it’s ok to use a few shakes per day. 
 

Bryson has a full team around him and I would doubt he’s drinking 7 shakes without their approval and recommendation on what brands to use.

 

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Seems like he is a guy that doesn't normally have a big appetite.

Back when I was Bryson's age (sounds weird saying that), I could eat a 24 oz steak like it was an appetizer. I have an abnormally big appetite though, even to this day.

These days, I do have two scoops of protein per day, 1 per bowl of oatmeal. 

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The whole diet and weight gain seems like an ego thing. The training that he put in is what should be getting the attention, but it y’all about his weight gain and not the work he put in that really made the difference.


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1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

I don’t disagree that there’s issues within the supplement industry and a lot of the issues revolve around supplements like fat burners and nowhere in that article does it talk about issues with protein shakes. 

You won’t find a reputable trainer that doesn’t talk about it being ok to use protein shakes to help meet protein needs. The number of them that would say consuming 7 a day is probably low but I have seen several including those with PHDs in nutrition that say it’s ok to use a few shakes per day. 
 

Bryson has a full team around him and I would doubt he’s drinking 7 shakes without their approval and recommendation on what brands to use.

 

A few isn't 7 a day!  Far from it!  To each their own!  I don't believe it's sustainable.  Time will tell.

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30 minutes ago, sixcat said:

A few isn't 7 a day!  Far from it!  To each their own!  I don't believe it's sustainable.  Time will tell.

Again he has a training staff. If 7 was an issue they wouldn’t let him have that many. Also they don’t say if it’s pure protein like whey or casein or a combo or if it’s some concoction of protein sources blended up. 

As with anything in training time and tracking will always determine the results. It all depends on what his goals will be and if they change to accomplish something else. His current goal was to bulk up to increase driving distance. Over the last 3+ months he was able to do both. He could easily go into a maintenance mode if he’s at his desired weight and appearance. maybe as the year goes on his wants to cut some body fat to improve his physique then his diet will change and what he consumes will match up with that.  It would be like a bodybuilder who goes into a long bulk to add muscle and size then enters a prep phase to be stage ready and they cut size. 
 

We have to wait and see what his goals are, but for the time being he’s achieving what he’s set out for.

 

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@RickyBobby_PRis right, the guy has a training staff and dietitian scheduling and programming his workouts, nutrition, etc. I doubt any of us are really in a position to second-guess the experts he has around him, especially since it's obviously working for him.   I'm honestly a little surprised the total calorie count is only 3-3.5K.  I did a mild winter bulk and my total calorie count for a bulking diet, per day, was 3.1K.  Granted that was for a slow clean bulk, but I'm only 5'9"...I would have guessed he'd need more than that.

But again, he's no doubt surrounded by experts who know what they're doing.

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1 minute ago, Getoffmylawn said:

@RickyBobby_PRis right, the guy has a training staff and dietitian scheduling and programming his workouts, nutrition, etc. I doubt any of use are really in a position to second-guess the experts he has around him, especially since it's obviously working for him.   I'm honestly a little surprised the total calorie count is only 3-3.5K.  I did a mild winter bulk and my total calorie count for a bulking diet, per day, was 3.1K.  Granted that was for a slow clean bulk, but I'm only 5'9"...I would have guessed he'd need more than that.

But again, he's no doubt surrounded by experts who know what they're doing.

I was surprised the cals were in that range. I expected them to be in the 4-5 range for the amount of weight he gained in a short period of time.

At the end of the day calories are energy and the number of calories needed depends on the energy levels and expenditures of the individual person and their goal. The rock eats about 7k calories/day and is upwards of 10k. His cheat day looks like most people’s entire week

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Nobody, including Bryson, knows how this will play out over time.  We've never seen anyone at the highest levels of golf do this before.  The on-course results are interesting and intriguing but I don't believe it is sustainable.  I believe he will ultimately have injury issues.  It just depends on how long he can sustain this frame and play golf at the elite level his is currently playing before those injuries mount.  

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20 minutes ago, sixcat said:

Nobody, including Bryson, knows how this will play out over time.  We've never seen anyone at the highest levels of golf do this before.  The on-course results are interesting and intriguing but I don't believe it is sustainable.  I believe he will ultimately have injury issues.  It just depends on how long he can sustain this frame and play golf at the elite level his is currently playing before those injuries mount.  

Again, my opinion.  It may or may not be worth a s*** for anything!

That goes for anything in golf or life. It’s not like Bryson is doing this on his own and just winging it. Anyone working with a coach whether it’s for their swing, their nutrition or training communicates with their coach and there’s a plan that has some sort of goal associated with it to track progress or lack of. Based on the whatever metric is used to track the coach uses that plus feedback from the individual and adjusts accordingly. 
 

None of us knows what his long term goal is or what the intermediate points are to that end goal so yes this may or may not be sustainable for a long period of time (whatever one considers long). It may not be his plan. What we can do is look at his goal and did he achieve it. So far the goal was to bulk up to gain distance and be the longest driver on tour. He achieved the added weight and the added weight achieved his goal of being the longest driver on tour over the last several weeks. It also hasn’t affected his ability to play well and finish high on the leaderboard. 
 

Now it’s sit back and watch and wait for what’s next or see if things start going bad for him and if he adjusts and how he adjusts.

 

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38 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

That goes for anything in golf or life. It’s not like Bryson is doing this on his own and just winging it. Anyone working with a coach whether it’s for their swing, their nutrition or training communicates with their coach and there’s a plan that has some sort of goal associated with it to track progress or lack of. Based on the whatever metric is used to track the coach uses that plus feedback from the individual and adjusts accordingly. 
 

None of us knows what his long term goal is or what the intermediate points are to that end goal so yes this may or may not be sustainable for a long period of time (whatever one considers long). It may not be his plan. What we can do is look at his goal and did he achieve it. So far the goal was to bulk up to gain distance and be the longest driver on tour. He achieved the added weight and the added weight achieved his goal of being the longest driver on tour over the last several weeks. It also hasn’t affected his ability to play well and finish high on the leaderboard. 
 

Now it’s sit back and watch and wait for what’s next or see if things start going bad for him and if he adjusts and how he adjusts.

 

Well said.  For me that he gained the weight and bulk really isn't the impressive part.  That's perfectly doable for many.  It's that he's translated it to increased clubhead speed.  Conventional wisdom would tell you upper body mass becomes a hindrance rather than an enabler.  What he's doing is truly historic in the game.  Sustainable?  We'll see.  Personally I have my doubts, but it's good entertainment to say the least...

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Well said.  For me that he gained the weight and bulk really isn't the impressive part.  That's perfectly doable for many.  It's that he's translated it to increased clubhead speed.  Conventional wisdom would tell you upper body mass becomes a hindrance rather than an enabler.  What he's doing is truly historic in the game.  Sustainable?  We'll see.  Personally I have my doubts, but it's good entertainment to say the least...

...what's he going to do to help him make more putts? 😆 
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...what's he going to do to help him make more putts? 😆 
I remember he tried side-saddle and PGA said no way dude.

23 in SG putting. It's not his putting.

His chipping on the other hand. (104) 🤮 And the funny thing is that this gets compounded by hitting the ball farther....

 

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...what's he going to do to help him make more putts?  
I remember he tried side-saddle and PGA said no way dude.

Hell if I know. I’m waiting for him to bust out that putter (name escapes me) that stands up on it’s own that John Smoltz was using...


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Hell if I know. I’m waiting for him to bust out that putter (name escapes me) that stands up on it’s own that John Smoltz was using...


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Nobody, including Bryson, knows how this will play out over time.  We've never seen anyone at the highest levels of golf do this before.  The on-course results are interesting and intriguing but I don't believe it is sustainable.  I believe he will ultimately have injury issues.  It just depends on how long he can sustain this frame and play golf at the elite level his is currently playing before those injuries mount.  
Again, my opinion.  It may or may not be worth a s*** for anything!

I’m thinking along the same lines. It’s definitely interesting as an experiment from “the golf scientist” — but sustainable... for years? We’ll see.

I tend to think that fast massive gains are difficult on tendons and joints. And in golf, when the swing becomes too violent/explosive and not graceful enough, body parts will blow out. This is what happened to Tiger, in my opinion (and also according to others, such as Gary Player, for example—an early example of a golfer who was big on diet and physical fitness, with very specific convictions/theory about what an ideal golf physique is). Tiger was the best, bulked up to become better, it worked for a few years and then body parts started breaking down... the knee and back are obviously known but I’d bet he has issues we don’t know about too.

If Bryson stays on this path, I expect injuries in his not too distant future. His swing does not appear graceful to me, but explosive and violent.


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I’m thinking along the same lines. It’s definitely interesting as an experiment from “the golf scientist” — but sustainable... for years? We’ll see.

I tend to think that fast massive gains are difficult on tendons and joints. And in golf, when the swing becomes too violent/explosive and not graceful enough, body parts will blow out. This is what happened to Tiger, in my opinion (and also according to others, such as Gary Player, for example—an early example of a golfer who was big on diet and physical fitness, with very specific convictions/theory about what an ideal golf physique is). Tiger was the best, bulked up to become better, it worked for a few years and then body parts started breaking down... the knee and back are obviously known but I’d bet he has issues we don’t know about too.

If Bryson stays on this path, I expect injuries in his not too distant future. His swing does not appear graceful to me, but explosive and violent.


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Bryson hasn’t said how much he planned to gain or to what ball speed he is trying to get to on the course so speculation about if it will hold up in the long run is putting the cart before the horse. What Bryson said is he wanted to be the longest driver on tour. He along with his team decided he needed to add mass, they developed a strategy and put a plan together to get there. He has achieved that so what he set out and accomplished that based on his distance stats so far. We need to see what goals he has for long term and to wait and see.

As for Tiger it wasn’t his bulking that caused his issues. In his own words it was the amount of running he did early on. He was running 30 miles a week and many times that was done in military boots so saying bulking caused his issues isn’t true.

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I may get some "feedback" for this post, but this thread and the topic as a whole have me seriously considering adopting my own mini experiment come this offseason.  Living in Nebraska I'm not golfing in the winter months, save the occasional one-off odd weather day, but I'm very much contemplating starting a thread here, maybe mid-October, with the intent to add 10-15 pounds of (hopefully mostly) lean muscle and measuring any increases in swing speed.

A lot a caveats and nuances to the idea.  For starters, 10-15 pounds on a clean bulking diet and weight training with the intent of gaining a few mph, no a radical transformation.  I've been doing some sort of weight training for nearly 20 years now too, so this wouldn't be a starting from scratch kind of experiment and would be a bit limited by basic laws of diminishing returns.  (In other words, someone whose never touched weights or eaten for bulk  before could add 10-15 pounds of muscle far more easily than I could.)  But, I have access to the largest gym in the Department of Defense, a home gym, a dietitian and means to get solid before/during/after body composition and body fat measurements.  Form a golf swing perspective, I can continue SuperSpeed training, my GolfTec program drills, and OrangeWhip tempo training in order to "preserve" my golf swing.  I don't have a swing speed radar, but getting swing speed measured on a before/during/after basis would be easy enough as well.

Really really thinking about doing this, and running a thread on MGS as I go.

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Go for it. Definitely would be interested in seeing how things go for you if you do take it on.

I may get some "feedback" for this post, but this thread and the topic as a whole have me seriously considering adopting my own mini experiment come this offseason.  Living in Nebraska I'm not golfing in the winter months, save the occasional one-off odd weather day, but I'm very much contemplating starting a thread here, maybe mid-October, with the intent to add 10-15 pounds of (hopefully mostly) lean muscle and measuring any increases in swing speed.
A lot a caveats and nuances to the idea.  For starters, 10-15 pounds on a clean bulking diet and weight training with the intent of gaining a few mph, no a radical transformation.  I've been doing some sort of weight training for nearly 20 years now too, so this wouldn't be a starting from scratch kind of experiment and would be a bit limited by basic laws of diminishing returns.  (In other words, someone whose never touched weights or eaten for bulk  before could add 10-15 pounds of muscle far more easily than I could.)  But, I have access to the largest gym in the Department of Defense, a home gym, a dietitian and means to get solid before/during/after body composition and body fat measurements.  Form a golf swing perspective, I can continue SuperSpeed training, my GolfTec program drills, and OrangeWhip tempo training in order to "preserve" my golf swing.  I don't have a swing speed radar, but getting swing speed measured on a before/during/after basis would be easy enough as well.
Really really thinking about doing this, and running a thread on MGS as I go.
Dare I ask for thoughts/feedback?


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2 hours ago, Getoffmylawn said:

I may get some "feedback" for this post, but this thread and the topic as a whole have me seriously considering adopting my own mini experiment come this offseason.  Living in Nebraska I'm not golfing in the winter months, save the occasional one-off odd weather day, but I'm very much contemplating starting a thread here, maybe mid-October, with the intent to add 10-15 pounds of (hopefully mostly) lean muscle and measuring any increases in swing speed.

A lot a caveats and nuances to the idea.  For starters, 10-15 pounds on a clean bulking diet and weight training with the intent of gaining a few mph, no a radical transformation.  I've been doing some sort of weight training for nearly 20 years now too, so this wouldn't be a starting from scratch kind of experiment and would be a bit limited by basic laws of diminishing returns.  (In other words, someone whose never touched weights or eaten for bulk  before could add 10-15 pounds of muscle far more easily than I could.)  But, I have access to the largest gym in the Department of Defense, a home gym, a dietitian and means to get solid before/during/after body composition and body fat measurements.  Form a golf swing perspective, I can continue SuperSpeed training, my GolfTec program drills, and OrangeWhip tempo training in order to "preserve" my golf swing.  I don't have a swing speed radar, but getting swing speed measured on a before/during/after basis would be easy enough as well.

Really really thinking about doing this, and running a thread on MGS as I go.

Dare I ask for thoughts/feedback?

Sounds like a good idea. I've been following a golf strength program for the past few months and it has been helping me with on the course results. 

I used to be into weight lifting pretty seriously about 10 years ago, but then I had quit for a while. The problem with my weight lifting back then though was it was always focused on "show" muscles, not on functional strength (i.e. leg workouts weren't important to me back then). 

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kind of taking over the broadcast, where they having nothing else to talk about. This might be unique in golf, but is routine in many other sports, especially where cardio conditioning is so important. Really hard to keep weight and prevent muscle loss if you are biking, running, swimming, etc every single day. Alot of high level athletes eat 4k - 7k calories a day. Let's talk more about the results of this and his speed and about his golf play rather than the shakes. We get it! Make jokes about the big guy eating alot. We get it! What goes in must come out. We get it!

I like Bryson. I like his approach to the game. He wants to win. Kevin Kisner kind of said it best and basically admitted that he is just playing golf. Kiz has a good life, travels the world, makes some darn good money. He obviously practices golf, but he has kids and a family that are priorities. Nothing wrong with that. That would be my mentality as well. But Byrson is on a different level. He is willing to do anything to improve. Maybe that hinders him from every settling into something but right now it is fun to watch.

 

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I’m skeptical about his approach long term as I said before, but I have to say after this past weekend I am impressed by his “Moneyball” approach. Driver, wedge, hot putter wins today.

I’m trying to recall how often I’ve seen a guy win who normally has a balanced game, but then for a particular tournament he suddenly gets hot with the putter... seems like I hear that in the strokes gained commentary fairly often when watching. Bryson adapted to make it happen.... trying to be the best driver and the best putter, drive for show AND putt for dough! I see in his SG he’s a solid scrambler too.


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I have issues with this strictly because they’re putting out that “this is a diet you can follow”. A) the average person cannot follow this strictly on the fact they won’t be able to put those calories to use and B) it’s not healthy anyway. Granted he probably gets variety day to day and this is probably 1 day if X amount of days. Either way ITs NOT A HEALTHY DIET.

i struggled (recently just broke the habit) after the military with lots of eating just because I could burn them but it was healthier eating.

moral of the story most of is most of us could never follow this and I think it’s haphazard to put it out as “be like Dechambeau eat like dechambeau”

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