PingMD702 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Hey everyone! I currently play the titleist 620 CB 4-P with titleist SM8 wedges 50 56 60. I am debating whether to switch out the stock pitching wedge for a 46/48 degree SM8. If I decide to get the 46 degree wedge should I switch my 56 and 60 to 54 and 58 to maintain 4 degree gapping between all my wedges? Since my 9 iron is 43 degrees in loft would my proposed idea make sense? Thanks very much! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver: Titleist TSr3 10 Degree Fujikura Ventus Blue TR Velocore 6x D1/Neutral setting (RH) 4 Wood: Titleist TSr2 16.5 Degree Fujikura Ventus Blue Velocore 7x D1 setting (RH) 7 Wood: Titleist TSr2 21 Degree Fujikura Ventus Blue Velocore 7x D1 setting (RH) 5 Hybrid: Titleist TSr2 24 Degree Fujikura Ventus Blue Velocore 8x B2 setting (RH) Irons: 2023 Titleist Black T100 5-PW AMT White S300 Onyx (RH) Wedges: 2023 Titleist Black T100 50 AMT White S300 Onyx, Titleist SM9 Premium Jet Black 54D/12 bounce, 58M/8 bounce BGT ZNE 130 wedge shafts (RH) Putter: Bettinardi Wizard Inovai 8.0 Custom with Stability Shaft Tour Black Ball: 2022 Titleist ProV1x (yellow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 The theory works, the question that needs to be answered is what is the gapping between the clubs in full swing shots. If you are creating holes you may need different lofts. Many will say that a stock wedge versus a specialty wedge spins differently and has different carry distances. Flip4000 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip4000 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I agree with CNosil. I did this with my AP2s. I switched out my PW for a 46 degree vokey only to find out that my 9 iron went 150 and the new vokey wedge flew around 134 vs 141 with my set wedge. I like the chipping versatility of the vokey but that gap was unacceptable. I ended up carrying both wedges and dropping my 3 wood. That way I had all my gaps covered. Big thing to watch out for is a specialty wedge does not fly as far as a set wedge so be sure to get properly gapped if you are going to make the switch aerospace_ray 1 Quote Right Handed Taylormade sim2 9 degree ventus black 7x ( velecore) 44.5 Callaway epic flash sz 5 wood 17 degree tensi AV blue X Mizuno CLK 19 degree tensi av blue X Callaway x forged 16 4-pw Project x 6.0 +.75 Vokey SM7 black 50/54/58 Project x 6.0 flighted +.5 length Scotty cameron newport 2.6 34 length Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 It depends on your gaps and how good you are at partial shots. There’s not hard rule for 4* of gapping. Cleveland always recommended 4-6* or a 12-16 yard gap. Doing online wedge fitting tools most recommend a 4* gap but that’s just standard. If you look at pro bags they have all kinds of setups. DJ has 5–10* from pw down to lw. Curious what you are looking to gain/achieve by swapping set wedge for a Vokey Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 I was faced with a similar decision when I got my 919 Forged's, the set Gap wedge versus a Vokey 50 degree like I'd been playing. Ultimately I'm not doing a lot of partial shots with the gap, it's more of a full swing club, so I went with the set wedge. In the 919's it's a 51 degree wedge, so then I got a 54 and 58 Vokey and had each bent a degree weak (after testing and dialing in distances). So, my PW through lob wedge set-up is a set wedge in PW and GW, Vokey's in sand and lob, lofts at 46, 51, 55, 59. And I have had plenty of less than full swing GW shots but have no problem scrubbing off distance with where I position my hands on the grip, length of backswing, etc. Be aware, weakening the wedges adds bounce, which I wanted. I could have gone a degree strong on a 56 and 60 but that would have reduced bounce. RickyBobby_PR 1 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavygolffeels Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 My PW is really on used for full shots so I would not deviate from the set wedge. Likely to lose yards going to a Vokey. However, if you use it alot around the greens you may find that to be beneficial and can always bend the loft a touch stronger if you are having gap issues. Quote GARSEN GRIP TESTER Driver: PING G400 MAX, Ventus Blue 6x Woods: COBRA F6 Baffler AD DI 8S Hybrid: CALLAWAY Apex Pro, Ventus Blue 8s Irons: SRIXON ZX5 mk2 5-6, ZX7 mk2 7-PW, Modus 120x Wedges: EDEL 50 C grind, 54 V grind, CLEVELAND 60 RTX6 Low Putter: YES Abbie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmikecpa Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 And one thing to not overlook is the shaft. The shaft in wedges that I primarily full shot clubs should be the same or comparable to the other iron shafts. I play $ Taper 130s all the way from 5 iron to my 50* wedge since I hit most full shots with a 50* wedge. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote WITB 2024 Qi10 LS 9* HZRDUS RDX Smoke Blue 60g 6.5 M5 15* Evenflow Black 75g 6.5 Sim Ti 22* HZRDUS Red 75g 6.5 Sim2 Rescue 22* Diamana Thump 100x X Forged CB 5 - PW MMT 105 TX Jaws Raw 50*, 54* & 58* TTDG "OG" Spinner Toulon Madison BGT Fire 34.75" Z Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehuti Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 My current setup is 45 pw, 49 gw then 52 and 56. The 52 and 56 are my old wedges that I will probably need to replace within a year. The pw and 49 are in my new set and are staying. I am trying to decide if I should go 52-56 again, which is okay, but is it necessary? My other consideration is 54-58 or else just replace the 56 with another one and drop the 4th wedge. Quote PXG 0211 12° driver w/Project X Cypher R flex shaft KE4 TC 16° 4 wood w/Kuro Kage Black 60g shaft KE4 TC HyWay 21° utilitywood w/Maltby MPF shaft KE4 TC 22° 4 hybrid w/UST Proforce V2 Black shaft KE4 TC 25° 5 hybrid w/Mitsubishi Tensei CK Blue shaft Lazrus 27° 6 hybrid w/Lazrus graphite shaft PXG 0211DC irons 7-PW w/Project X Cypher graphite shafts CBX2 50° wedge M-Series+ 56° wedge w/UST Recoil 660 graphite shaft Infinite Bean putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland blue Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I went this year with SM7 wedges in 46*, 56 bent to 54* and a 60* and have been pleased with the new wedges. Newer grooves and a wee bit softer shaft as I did not reshaft these wedges to the X100 I had in my older wedge set up. I have a 8* gap and a 6* gap and find that those seem to fit my swing speed and skill set for now, however everyone needs to find out that zone for themselves. It could be that those who advocate for a 4* gap ........are the ones selling the wedges ! aerospace_ray 1 Quote SIM2 Max Driver 10.5* Ventus 5-S Cobra Rad Speed 3W 14.5* Evenflow Riptide CB Stiff Ping G 4W 17.5* Ping Alta Reg TM Ti 5W 19* Diamana FW 65 Reg Titleist T-300 5-PW Amt Red Stiff Vokey SM7 Wedges 46* 56* 60* Ping Zing/Anser putter 85020/85029// TM Spider SR#9 Flo Neck Titleist Pro V-1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeBrain Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I had went back to my set PW (MP-32) after playing a specialized Cleveland PW for a couple of years. I found I treat my PW pretty much as a "10-iron". While it's definitely a traditional loft (47deg), I only use it for 3/4 to full distance shots - just like most of my other irons. It's not a tool I use greenside very much at all. The rest of my wedges are 52/56/60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerospace_ray Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 4:25 PM, Scotland blue said: I went this year with SM7 wedges in 46*, 56 bent to 54* and a 60* and have been pleased with the new wedges. Newer grooves and a wee bit softer shaft as I did not reshaft these wedges to the X100 I had in my older wedge set up. I have a 8* gap and a 6* gap and find that those seem to fit my swing speed and skill set for now, however everyone needs to find out that zone for themselves. It could be that those who advocate for a 4* gap ........are the ones selling the wedges ! I think its awesome you have identified your gaps. Most people don't have a clue what they really are capable of playing because maybe they think they need this or that set of wedges (typical pw, gw, sw, lw / ~4 deg apart). Some of us are old enough to remember days when ~7-8 deg gap existed between pw / sw and oh btw no lob wedge existed and/or was not readily available per se. You learned to hit all the shots (full, 1/2, 3/4, chip/pitch) with two wedges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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