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1 hour ago, BMart519 said:

Admittedly, I do not know all of the features of the ExPutt. But, I don't think indoor practice will help much with lag putting other than face angle control and working on a consistent contact point on the putter face. I putt 25' down the hallway carpet (probably plays around 40'+ due to the speed) to various targets and practice the ladder drill, but the golf ball launches different on carpet versus grass. 

The impact of grain, uphill/downhill, and break on long putts requires practice and calibration on the green. Not to mention visually seeing the putt versus rolling the ball straight towards a monitor a few feet in front of you. A virtual ladder drill should help distance control, but again, limited application to the real world. 

Best use of indoor time at home is start line - both face angle and aim. 

Those are all good points about real practice, but unfortunately I don't have convenient access to a good .. and large .. practice green.

So I'm hoping that the ExPutt's simulation is a good-enough substitute... Plus its main data capture/display includes putter path, impact angle and launch direction.

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2 hours ago, BMart519 said:

Admittedly, I do not know all of the features of the ExPutt. But, I don't think indoor practice will help much with lag putting other than face angle control and working on a consistent contact point on the putter face. I putt 25' down the hallway carpet (probably plays around 40'+ due to the speed) to various targets and practice the ladder drill, but the golf ball launches different on carpet versus grass. 

The impact of grain, uphill/downhill, and break on long putts requires practice and calibration on the green. Not to mention visually seeing the putt versus rolling the ball straight towards a monitor a few feet in front of you. A virtual ladder drill should help distance control, but again, limited application to the real world. 

Best use of indoor time at home is start line - both face angle and aim. 

You have some valid points, but that is also why we are testing the system.  Yes,  you have to calibrate yourself to a green prior to playing but that calibration is typically done on flat putts against a known baseline.  

Given the right tools,  I think people underestimate the value of indoor training and claim that practice must be done outdoors.   

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Link didn’t work for me. I posted this somewhere else on here yesterday. even though a pro says I did X; it may not be what he actually did.   

 

 

 

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According to my Arccos caddie dashboard, my putting handicap is a +3.6 now and my chipping handicap is a 2.7.

Improving my putting in the last few months was by far the quickest way to gain one stroke per round.  Chipping it closer has probably gained me another one stroke per round.

At the moment my worst handicap is my driving followed by my approach shots.  That is why I’m making some changes to my bag makeup and tweaking my driver.  Having one bad drive that results in a lost ball or an unplayable lie is becoming unacceptable.  It is too costly.

Dave Pelz says if you can drive, chip and putt you can score.

When I retired 7 years ago my handicap was 28.  I was lucky to play 20 rounds a year when I was working, now I’m playing three or more times a week.  Immediately after retiring the thing that helped me the most was just playing more.  I was able to drop my handicap from a 28 to a 14 in the first two years.  My distance has increased and my awareness of where the bottom of my swing is has improved greatly.  

Playing more, taking a few lessons and getting fitted for new clubs helped me to get from a 14 to an 8.  

Going from an 8 to a 5 is harder because there is less room for error.  You can’t make as many mistakes.  Fine tuning your clubs and your bag make up, practicing with a purpose on those areas that are weaker and leveraging the strengths in your game become more important.

Finally, the other thing that has helped me a bunch is playing with better players.

 

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On 7/23/2020 at 11:30 AM, DaveP043 said:

SG putting is relatively easy to get, all you need is to pace off the distance to the hole for your first putt, and record the number of putts.  Average SG (Strokes Lost for most of us) putting over a moderate number of rounds, and compare it to (Handicap +6) x 0.2.  If you're losing a lot more than that number, putting is a relative weakness.  If you're under that number, your putting is good for your relative skill level, you should spend most of your time working on something else...

Here's my Strokes Gained Putting example spreadsheet.  Feel free to make to make a copy for yourself.  To add a round, copy cells A1-D20, past them below, and edit the inputs.  Just need the starting distance in feet, and the number of putts to hole out.  The cumulative stats are generated automatically.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nR2p-BDGMjrWkLxV13mX2HKJ8w7KpxB3qeeM9ZnMIYU/edit?usp=sharing

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I'm pumped to go out and buy a 4' ruler to work on my putting and see how it goes.  I'm tired of sucking at putting and averaging 30+ putts a round.

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Most people I’ve played with consider me to be an above average putter and I have a couple of drills that I do anytime I practice.

1. Is a standard for most pros the “around the world” drill...try to find a fairly flat spot on the practice green and put 4 balls around the hole at 2 feet....make all 4 then put them at 3 feet...make all 4 and move to 4 feet....if you miss any you start over at 2 feet.

I go until I make all 4 at 5 feet then I move to drill #2

2. I some colored heavy string and tied 15 feet between 2 pieces of a thin fiberglass rod (driveway marker from Home Depot cut into 15 inch pieces and sharpened). I hind a flat spot on the green and stick the fiberglass rods into the green with the string pulled tight.

I plans my ball under the string lining up my Sharpie line with the string and then make puts from 5-10-15 feet trying to keep the line on the ball rolling under the string and have the ball barely hit the rod at the far end.

This drill works on distance control and starting the ball online.

3. I find a hole with a significant break and I try to visualize the aiming point for the putt then I build a “gate” with tees about 2 feet in front of the ball and I try and putt the ball through the gate and into the cup. This is my favorite drill because I’m a “spot” putter...on the course I look for a spot on the green to roll the ball over...especially on long putts. I find this helps eliminates 3 putts. As of yesterday I have gone 64 holes since my last 3 putt.

Hope these help


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The biggest putting difference I've ever seen is figuring out how to best see the line, and develop a stance and stroke that allows you to naturally roll the ball on that line.

I putted extremely well when younger putting almost entirely by feel.  Had the ball far up in my stance, off the front foot and used an old, short 8802 toe hang putter with my arms fully extended.  I got away from that for 20 years listening to the "experts" about how ball should be directly under your eyes, straight back-straight thru shoulder rocking stroke, use the line on ball, etc.  Big mistake.  I made lots of 3-5 footers, but made way fewer long putts and often struggled with distance control and more 3 putts than I ever had.

When I got back to that old putter and actually being able to see the line and roll it pure I putted SO much better.  Bottom line is find a way to let the natural inner athlete out and forget about all the technical stuff and mimicking most of the guys on TV.

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