adamflowers Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Hi Everyone, I'm stuck here in Minnesota where it has been unbearably hot or thunderstorming, so I thought I would do a review of two balls relatively new to the market. I have chosen the new Titleist AVX and Vice Pro because I've been looking for a ball with low-spin off of my longer clubs but that also retains spin from the mid-irons down to chips. Also, I'm a sucker for how the dimple-pattern on the AVX looks AND for how sleek Vice's logo is. As you will see, the review consists of a variety of different shots that were tracked using FlightScope Mevo: 1. 10-yard Bump-and-Run (Closed-face 54* SW) 2. 10-yard Chip (60* LW) 3. 50-yard Pitch (60* LW) 4. Full 60* Lob Wedge 5. Full 7-Iron 6. Full 3-Wood (I know that the typical "driver" component is missing, but I haven't included it because I don't usually hit driver and instead use my 3-wood off of the tee. I hope this doesn't ruin the test for anyone!) So, without further ado, here are the head-to-head results for each ball (I hit many shots with each ball and only chose shots that that represented good/typical swings): 10-Yard Bump-and-Run AVX: Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne Vice Pro: 10-Yard Chip Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne AVX: Vice Pro: 50-Yard Pitch Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne AVX: Vice Pro: Full Lob Wedge Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne AVX: Vice Pro: 7-Iron Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne AVX: Vice Pro: 3-Wood Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne AVX: Vice Pro: Conclusions: Wow, what a similar ball! I really wasn't expecting so much overlap. There are a few stand-out statistics to me, though: 1. The two balls are basically identical on green-side chips. 2. The AVX launches consistently higher than the Vice Pro (except for the full LW). 3. The distance on full shots is generally comparable. 4. The Vice Pro spins a few-hundred rpm's more with the lob wedge, but a few hundred rpm's less with the 7-iron. 5. The Vice Pro carries farther with a more penetrating trajectory and less spin with the 3-wood. Edited July 9, 2020 by adamflowers JKim2, GregGarner, aerospace_ray and 3 others 6 Quote ST 200 9.5°, Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 65 S ST 200 3w 15°, Diamana S+ 60 S Z H85 3h 19°, Project X Hzrdus Black Hybrid 6.0 P770 (2017) 4-PW, KBS Tour FLT 120 S SM8 50.08F, 54.14F, 58.08M, KBS Tour S Sigma 2 Fetch 34" Tour B X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Interesting side by side test! So..... is one of these now your gamer ball? adamflowers 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamflowers Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, cksurfdude said: Interesting side by side test! So..... is one of these now your gamer ball? This was the test to decide... and I’m still mulling it over. I’m leaning Vice Pro if only for the slightly better 3-wood performance. cksurfdude 1 Quote ST 200 9.5°, Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 65 S ST 200 3w 15°, Diamana S+ 60 S Z H85 3h 19°, Project X Hzrdus Black Hybrid 6.0 P770 (2017) 4-PW, KBS Tour FLT 120 S SM8 50.08F, 54.14F, 58.08M, KBS Tour S Sigma 2 Fetch 34" Tour B X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Makes sense if they're so near to each other in all the other areas, and that 3W ball flight would help your game .... good luck! SteveZim 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 And price difference as well... adamflowers and Thin2win 2 Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyRM7 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Good stuff! Nice to see a performance review of the new Vice. Since the ball test I’ve played the old Vice Pro but I’m weary of the new ball until I see some validation from the ball lab. Obviously price is my biggest hurdle, but from what I’ve seen, can’t find a better ball for the money. I mean, you’re talking half the price and similar performance with the AVX.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Kanoito 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsilman Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 I personally love the Vice Pro, it is probably my new go-to ball. The Snell MTB Black and Taylormade TP5x also give me very similar performance/feel, and I will game them if I'm randomly out of Vice Pros. Quote Driver: TSi3 9* w/ Accra Tour Z RPG 462 M4+ 3 Wood: TSi2 15* w/ Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw Blue 65 3 Hybrid: G425 19* w/ Alta CB 70 Irons: MP-20 HMB (4-6) / MMC (7-PW) w/ DG X100 Wedges: SM6 54 S-grind / 58 M-grind w/ DG S300 Putter: White Hot Rx V-line Fang Ball: TP5x Bag: Hoofer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerospace_ray Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 7/9/2020 at 5:52 PM, adamflowers said: Hi Everyone, I'm stuck here in Minnesota where it has been unbearably hot or thunderstorming, so I thought I would do a review of two balls relatively new to the market. I have chosen the new Titleist AVX and Vice Pro because I've been looking for a ball with low-spin off of my longer clubs but that also retains spin from the mid-irons down to chips. Also, I'm a sucker for how the dimple-pattern on the AVX looks AND for how sleek Vice's logo is. As you will see, the review consists of a variety of different shots that were tracked using FlightScope Mevo: 1. 10-yard Bump-and-Run (Closed-face 54* SW) 2. 10-yard Chip (60* LW) 3. 50-yard Pitch (60* LW) 4. Full 60* Lob Wedge 5. Full 7-Iron 6. Full 3-Wood (I know that the typical "driver" component is missing, but I haven't included it because I don't usually hit driver and instead use my 3-wood off of the tee. I hope this doesn't ruin the test for anyone!) So, without further ado, here are the head-to-head results for each ball (I hit many shots with each ball and only chose shots that that represented good/typical swings): 10-Yard Bump-and-Run AVX: Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne Vice Pro: 10-Yard Chip Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne AVX: Vice Pro: 50-Yard Pitch Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne AVX: Vice Pro: Full Lob Wedge Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne AVX: Vice Pro: 7-Iron Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne AVX: Vice Pro: 3-Wood Ball Speed Carry Launch Angle Spin Height Time Airborne AVX: Vice Pro: Conclusions: Wow, what a similar ball! I really wasn't expecting so much overlap. There are a few stand-out statistics to me, though: 1. The two balls are basically identical on green-side chips. 2. The AVX launches consistently higher than the Vice Pro (except for the full LW). 3. The distance on full shots is generally comparable. 4. The Vice Pro spins a few-hundred rpm's more with the lob wedge, but a few hundred rpm's less with the 7-iron. 5. The Vice Pro carries farther with a more penetrating trajectory and less spin with the 3-wood. So that is awesome little test. Both golf balls quality as you know. Can't really go wrong with either. Being a stats kind of guy, I am curious, which ball was more accurate regarding the #7 iron? Those #'s are interesting to me ("4. The Vice Pro spins a few-hundred rpm's more with the lob wedge, but a few hundred rpm's less with the 7-iron.) Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 TXG just did a comparison ProV1 vs Vice Pro 2020 sixcat 1 Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I have played the Vice Pro all summer. I have to admit, the "improved" version is a fantastic golf ball. As the TXG video points out, the performance and consistency of the new Vice is right up there with Pro-V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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