Titleist AVX (2020) vs. Vice Pro (2020)

[adamflowers]

Hi Everyone,

 

I'm stuck here in Minnesota where it has been unbearably hot or thunderstorming, so I thought I would do a review of two balls relatively new to the market. I have chosen the new Titleist AVX and Vice Pro because I've been looking for a ball with low-spin off of my longer clubs but that also retains spin from the mid-irons down to chips. Also, I'm a sucker for how the dimple-pattern on the AVX looks AND for how sleek Vice's logo is. As you will see, the review consists of a variety of different shots that were tracked using FlightScope Mevo:

1. 10-yard Bump-and-Run (Closed-face 54* SW)

2. 10-yard Chip (60* LW)

3. 50-yard Pitch (60* LW)

4. Full 60* Lob Wedge

5. Full 7-Iron

6. Full 3-Wood

(I know that the typical "driver" component is missing, but I haven't included it because I don't usually hit driver and instead use my 3-wood off of the tee. I hope this doesn't ruin the test for anyone!)

So, without further ado, here are the head-to-head results for each ball (I hit many shots with each ball and only chose shots that that represented good/typical swings):

10-Yard Bump-and-Run

AVX:

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

Vice Pro:

 

10-Yard Chip

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

AVX:

Vice Pro:

 

50-Yard Pitch

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

AVX:

Vice Pro:

Full Lob Wedge

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

AVX:

Vice Pro:

 

7-Iron

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

AVX:

Vice Pro:

 

3-Wood

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

AVX:

Vice Pro:

 

Conclusions:

Wow, what a similar ball! I really wasn't expecting so much overlap. There are a few stand-out statistics to me, though:

1. The two balls are basically identical on green-side chips.

2. The AVX launches consistently higher than the Vice Pro (except for the full LW).

3. The distance on full shots is generally comparable.

4. The Vice Pro spins a few-hundred rpm's more with the lob wedge, but a few hundred rpm's less with the 7-iron.

5. The Vice Pro carries farther with a more penetrating trajectory and less spin with the 3-wood.

Edited July 9, 2020 by adamflowers

[cksurfdude]

Interesting side by side test! So..... is one of these now your gamer ball?

[adamflowers]

21 minutes ago, cksurfdude said:

Interesting side by side test! So..... is one of these now your gamer ball?

This was the test to decide... and I’m still mulling it over. I’m leaning Vice Pro if only for the slightly better 3-wood performance. 

[cksurfdude]

Makes sense if they're so near to each other in all the other areas, and that 3W ball flight would help your game .... good luck!

[Kanoito]

And price difference as well...

[LeftyRM7]

Good stuff! Nice to see a performance review of the new Vice. Since the ball test I’ve played the old Vice Pro but I’m weary of the new ball until I see some validation from the ball lab. Obviously price is my biggest hurdle, but from what I’ve seen, can’t find a better ball for the money. I mean, you’re talking half the price and similar performance with the AVX.


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[rsilman]

I personally love the Vice Pro, it is probably my new go-to ball. The Snell MTB Black and Taylormade TP5x also give me very similar performance/feel, and I will game them if I'm randomly out of Vice Pros. 

[aerospace_ray]

On 7/9/2020 at 5:52 PM, adamflowers said:

Hi Everyone,

 

I'm stuck here in Minnesota where it has been unbearably hot or thunderstorming, so I thought I would do a review of two balls relatively new to the market. I have chosen the new Titleist AVX and Vice Pro because I've been looking for a ball with low-spin off of my longer clubs but that also retains spin from the mid-irons down to chips. Also, I'm a sucker for how the dimple-pattern on the AVX looks AND for how sleek Vice's logo is. As you will see, the review consists of a variety of different shots that were tracked using FlightScope Mevo:

1. 10-yard Bump-and-Run (Closed-face 54* SW)

2. 10-yard Chip (60* LW)

3. 50-yard Pitch (60* LW)

4. Full 60* Lob Wedge

5. Full 7-Iron

6. Full 3-Wood

(I know that the typical "driver" component is missing, but I haven't included it because I don't usually hit driver and instead use my 3-wood off of the tee. I hope this doesn't ruin the test for anyone!)

So, without further ado, here are the head-to-head results for each ball (I hit many shots with each ball and only chose shots that that represented good/typical swings):

10-Yard Bump-and-Run

AVX:

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

Vice Pro:

 

10-Yard Chip

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

AVX:

Vice Pro:

 

50-Yard Pitch

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

AVX:

Vice Pro:

Full Lob Wedge

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

AVX:

Vice Pro:

 

7-Iron

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

AVX:

Vice Pro:

 

3-Wood

                              Ball Speed                                                                                                    Carry                      Launch Angle            Spin            Height           Time Airborne

AVX:

Vice Pro:

 

Conclusions:

Wow, what a similar ball! I really wasn't expecting so much overlap. There are a few stand-out statistics to me, though:

1. The two balls are basically identical on green-side chips.

2. The AVX launches consistently higher than the Vice Pro (except for the full LW).

3. The distance on full shots is generally comparable.

4. The Vice Pro spins a few-hundred rpm's more with the lob wedge, but a few hundred rpm's less with the 7-iron.

5. The Vice Pro carries farther with a more penetrating trajectory and less spin with the 3-wood.

So that is awesome little test. Both golf balls quality as you know. Can't really go wrong with either.

Being a stats kind of guy, I am curious, which ball was more accurate regarding the #7 iron? Those #'s are interesting to me ("4. The Vice Pro spins a few-hundred rpm's more with the lob wedge, but a few hundred rpm's less with the 7-iron.) Thank you. 

[Kanoito]

TXG just did a comparison ProV1 vs Vice Pro 2020

 

[sixcat]

I have played the Vice Pro all summer.  I have to admit, the "improved" version is a fantastic golf ball.  As the TXG video points out, the performance and consistency of the new Vice is right up there with Pro-V.