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My apologies to you both.  Too many high numbers being thrown around to keep em straight.  Ha 

But now that I know the secret to the hint.  Watch out. 

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10 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

What is so impressive about this.  Cnosil had 15 if his 1st putts comceded and made 4.   These I'm taking it were all at the same distance I putted many of them over 25 feet.  

 

Actually two of the makes were over 30 feet! Made a short one, 10ft, one at 19, and the two long ones.

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6 hours ago, gavinski91 said:

The hint is definitely the key - one of my issues with the system is that the greens are really hard to read on the screen. It might work for some, but doesn't work for my style. A directional line on the heat map in the corner, Wii-golf style, would be a handy feature to have.

Here's my best so far - not gonna win the prize, but it's a fail-free round!

 

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Here's a picture of what I would like to see added - an arrow in the heat map in the top right corner that indicates what direction you are currently aiming.

 

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6 makes!!!!! Nice! Bonus points for those!

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Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4-10, :Nippon: Modus 130 stiff, +1”

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6 hours ago, gavinski91 said:

The hint is definitely the key - one of my issues with the system is that the greens are really hard to read on the screen. It might work for some, but doesn't work for my style. A directional line on the heat map in the corner, Wii-golf style, would be a handy feature to have.

Here's my best so far - not gonna win the prize, but it's a fail-free round!

 

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Here's a picture of what I would like to see added - an arrow in the heat map in the top right corner that indicates what direction you are currently aiming.

 

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Have you tried the “H” help yet? Getting the “kneeling” view? That really helps me see it more like I’m on a real green.

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Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4-10, :Nippon: Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Wedges: Vega VW-06 50*/54*/58*, Dynamic Gold S400

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Here's my best so far - not gonna win the prize, but it's a fail-free round!


Nice! Keep trying, there are still more days to go to beat my score. I’m not stopping!
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1 hour ago, PMookie said:

Have you tried the “H” help yet? Getting the “kneeling” view? That really helps me see it more like I’m on a real green.

I've got to try that for sure.  

You guys are killing it with these scores.  

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13 hours ago, cnosil said:

Ill throw up an early number for everyone to chase:

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WOW!!

I haven't even started yet but looking at that I think I'm just gonna have to concede to the ExPutt Master 🦸🦹

Nice!

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8 hours ago, gavinski91 said:

.. directional line on the heat map ..

I was imagining / hoping there'd be a faint line drawn on the green itself .. .. like you see illustrated sometimes on Golf Channel; or this high end ($$$$$) putting simulator I've seen on a Cameron McCormick video that creates breaks and projects a line showing you the optimal path.

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..Callaway Epic Speed 4W (Project X Cypher)
..Tour Edge Exotics EXS 7W (Tensei CK Blue)
..Callaway Super Hybrid 23 (PX Catalyst) and Big Bertha 19 5H (Recoil ZTR)
..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) 
..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite)
..Evnroll ER5 (33", 385g, P2 Reflex Tour)
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I was imagining / hoping there'd be a faint line drawn on the green itself .. .. like you see illustrated sometimes on Golf Channel; or this high end ($$$$$) putting simulator I've seen on a Cameron McCormick video that creates breaks and projects a line showing you the optimal path.

Several have talked to Mo about this and they went away from using that to what the current hint functionality provides. Obviously, we have opinions on what should be provided, but readers should come back for the weekly roundup to see what we thing about the provided functionality.
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On 7/13/2020 at 10:04 PM, Wedgie said:

I’m most interested to see if you can adapt the feeling of putting on this and take it to the course. I spent a winter practicing 9 footers because that is what I had room for. When I finally got to the course everything went 9 feet.


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Agreed! I'm curious about speed/distance control.

I spent the winter putting in my basement and that green speed was super fast. Going out to start the season, I was leaving everything wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy short. I've finally adjusted, but am trying to find the best way to practice putting in the winter and not have to take another month to adjust to true green speeds.

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Agreed! I'm curious about speed/distance control.
I spent the winter putting in my basement and that green speed was super fast. Going out to start the season, I was leaving everything wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy short. I've finally adjusted, but am trying to find the best way to practice putting in the winter and not have to take another month to adjust to true green speeds.

From what I know now, I would take a look at what I write about practice mode. This mode lets
you pick green speed and roll straight putts up to 50 feet.

What I am finding is that it helps build the feel for how big/long a stroke is needed for each distance. While still a work in progress I am finding that I
Am getting better speed control for those longer distance putts when moving to the actual course.

Right now I see the practice mode as my primary use with this product. Still learning the “challenge” mode; which is what the testers are looking at currently, so that may change as we move forward.
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6 minutes ago, cnosil said:


From what I know now, I would take a look at what I write about practice mode. This mode lets
you pick green speed and roll straight putts up to 50 feet.

What I am finding is that it helps build the feel for how big/long a stroke is needed for each distance. While still a work in progress I am finding that I
Am getting better speed control for those longer distance putts when moving to the actual course.

Right now I see the practice mode as my primary use with this product. Still learning the “challenge” mode; which is what the testers are looking at currently, so that may change as we move forward.

Makes sense. Thanks for the initial thoughts. Looking forward to hearing more about it.

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2 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

WOW!!

I haven't even started yet but looking at that I think I'm just gonna have to concede to the ExPutt Master 🦸🦹

Nice!

What? “Master”? I’m only 6 points behind... Awe, “You done it now!”

”What am I, chopped liver?!”

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Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4-10, :Nippon: Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Wedges: Vega VW-06 50*/54*/58*, Dynamic Gold S400

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2 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

I was imagining / hoping there'd be a faint line drawn on the green itself .. .. like you see illustrated sometimes on Golf Channel; or this high end ($$$$$) putting simulator I've seen on a Cameron McCormick video that creates breaks and projects a line showing you the optimal path.

From what I heard, the reason they didn’t include this is twofold: 

1. It makes it like a video game

2. Why give the line when there isn’t a line on a course?

The basic reason for Exputt is to help improve on-course performance. If they give the user the line, there really isn’t any skill development, and then it’s just back to rolling “straight putts” in essence. I understand how when we see on tv the “total possible” break accounted for that allows for more or less speed along the line, but with Exputt there is still some need for the user to establish the line properly, not just be given it. In that sense, it would be more like a video game, not a “simulator”....

 

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2 hours ago, cnosil said:


Several have talked to Mo about this and they went away from using that to what the current hint functionality provides. Obviously, we have opinions on what should be provided, but readers should come back for the weekly roundup to see what we thing about the provided functionality.

Maybe they can make it an optional function that can be toggled on and off depending on user preference...

 

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1 hour ago, cnosil said:

While still a work in progress I am finding that I
Am getting better speed control for those longer distance putts when moving to the actual course.

This is really important and answers a question I was going to ask - whether the simulated lag putt is accurate with on course performance.

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2 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

WOW!!

I haven't even started yet but looking at that I think I'm just gonna have to concede to the ExPutt Master 🦸🦹

Nice!

Is it just me or does that lamp take on the look of a shiny, gold trophy? 😆

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This is really important and answers a question I was going to ask - whether the simulated lag putt is accurate with on course performance.

If you really think about it,
Green speed is simply how far a ball rolls when it comes off a stomp meter. The ball speed off the stimp meter is a constant value; or should be. As a result, the camera measured ball speed can be plugged into a formula to calculate distance.

After reading HA Templeton’s book "Vector Putting: The Art and Science of Reading Greens and Computing Break" I know there are formulas that can be used to calculate break for a given green speed. This is also part of the concept of aimpoint and the putt vision we see on golf broadcasts..given ball speed, green speed, slope, and gravity you can predict curve and distance. Once the ball gets to the hole, there are also formulas to calculate capture speeds.

As for on course evaluation I have been stepping off distances and trying to apply stroke lengths I am learning on ExPutt. So far it seems to be helping distance wise. Next comes adjustments based on slope. That skill building comes in the portion of the application we are working on now.
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