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One reason I’ve varied speed setting was the difficulty going from fast greens to slower greens, its very easy for me to go from slow greens to faster greens. 

I found if having to choose I would be vary the speed of sessions by two 7 to 9 or 8 to 10 then 10 footers followed random up to 50 feet – 40 putts. If you see 9 foot short or long on 30 plus putts then you might go with 30 or 40 foot fixed and dial it that range. I think it reads out to 100 feet not sure why that’s not tracked as a setting it could its unreliable outside say 60 feet, or matt issues hitting putts that hard.

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Not sure if this was mentioned, the only -- major unseen putting variable with ExPutt that would make a major difference would be the launch angle of putts which effect roll, and direction. It’s probably not possible at this price point. SAM Putt Labs equates launch angle importance with direction and face angle. Sikk putters address that with consistent launch face angles, Ive never tried one or seen one in play.  

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“The ideal launch angle (for most greens) is between 0.75 and 1.25 degrees. Slower greens (or greens that have a lot of grain) require up to 2 degrees of launch angle to get the ball up out of its resting position and riding on top of the grass.”

Sam Putt Labs:

“On fast greens a flat launch angle of the ball and initial top spin are preferred, to avoid skidding. Skidding is supposed to introduce errors in ball direction, -- in contrast a rolling ball is keeping the direction better. The factors influencing launch and spin are static loft of the putter, shaft lean at impact, vertical putter path at impact and ball position.”

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One reason I’ve varied speed setting was the difficulty going from fast greens to slower greens, its very easy for me to go from slow greens to faster greens. 
I found if having to choose I would be vary the speed of sessions by two 7 to 9 or 8 to 10 then 10 footers followed random up to 50 feet – 40 putts. If you see 9 foot short or long on 30 plus putts then you might go with 30 or 40 foot fixed and dial it that range. I think it reads out to 100 feet not sure why that’s not tracked as a setting it could its unreliable outside say 60 feet, or matt issues hitting putts that hard.

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Not sure if this was mentioned, the only -- major unseen putting variable with ExPutt that would make a major difference would be the launch angle of putts which effect roll, and direction. It’s probably not possible at this price point. SAM Putt Labs equates launch angle importance with direction and face angle. Sikk putters address that with consistent launch face angles, Ive never tried one or seen one in play.  


Quintic Definition:

“The ideal launch angle (for most greens) is between 0.75 and 1.25 degrees. Slower greens (or greens that have a lot of grain) require up to 2 degrees of launch angle to get the ball up out of its resting position and riding on top of the grass.”


Sam Putt Labs:

“On fast greens a flat launch angle of the ball and initial top spin are preferred, to avoid skidding. Skidding is supposed to introduce errors in ball direction, -- in contrast a rolling ball is keeping the direction better. The factors influencing launch and spin are static loft of the putter, shaft lean at impact, vertical putter path at impact and ball position.”


This is why we talked about building a chart for various green speeds. Every stroke length should have a consistent ball speed/distance. At each course you get a baseline distance and see where that falls on your chart. If the greens are slower you look at the speed chart and know the stroke you need to make for the distance you have.

There are lots of potential features that could be added to the produce but as mentioned it would increase cost. To get launch you would probably need a side camera since the current camera location probably can’t see launch. Launch issues typically create speed control issues. If you struggle with speed on real greens but perform well here loft is probably a good place to start looking.

All putts skid; you just need the right amount. As you documented, you have to launch the ball and not hit it into the ground. Hitting into the ground will typically show up on launch monitors as straight but you would see actual roll going offline.
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3 hours ago, Garry said:

Not sure if this was mentioned, the only -- major unseen putting variable with ExPutt that would make a major difference would be the launch angle of putts which affect roll, and direction.

Yeah that would be nice, but... As @cnosil mentioned most likely outside the realm of an in-home simulator.

One other factor that would be a "nice to have" is impact location on the putter face - eg. towards the toe and high on the face, or towards the heel, or even close to dead center.

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Halfway through reading this great thread - i purchased the Exputt direct on Wednesday (MyGolfSpy10 still works great and thank you) and its currently in a van in my local area. 

Looking forward to being able to practice...... thinking of overhauling my grip to begin with

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17 minutes ago, DR_Golf said:

Halfway through reading this great thread - i purchased the Exputt direct on Wednesday (MyGolfSpy10 still works great and thank you) and its currently in a van in my local area. 

Looking forward to being able to practice...... thinking of overhauling my grip to begin with

Great time of year to pick one of these up.  As our weather starts to have more and more cold days ahead, I'll be spending more time with mine.

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22 minutes ago, DR_Golf said:

Halfway through reading this great thread - i purchased the Exputt

Thanks! ..and Nice!! Have fun with it 👍

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..Callaway Big Bertha 4H and 5H (both Recoil ZTR)
..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) 
..Cleveland CBX-2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite)
...Edel EAS 4.0 (stock shaft, zero offset hosel, round grip)
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On 11/20/2020 at 9:23 AM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Great time of year to pick one of these up.  As our weather starts to have more and more cold days ahead, I'll be spending more time with mine.

You're going to like the Exputt.  I've learned that the lower stimps are harder for me than the faster speeds.  I think that's because on a 7 Stimp I have to hit it harder, which means a longer back/forward swing, which means more room for error. 

Two nights ago I putted 10' fixed distance.  At 7 Stimp I hit 44%, and at 9 Stimp I hit 64%.  

FYI, on 2019 PGA Tour, pros made 42.9% of 10-footers and 80.2% of 5-footers.  That's with weather and reading breaks.  We can't compare our indoor perfect condition make percentages to that, but it is somewhat of a benchmark.

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8 hours ago, Finky999 said:

You're going to like the Exputt.  I've learned that the lower stimps are harder for me than the faster speeds.  I think that's because on a 7 Stimp I have to hit it harder, which means a longer back/forward swing, which means more room for error. 

Two nights ago I putted 10' fixed distance.  At 7 Stimp I hit 44%, and at 9 Stimp I hit 64%.  

FYI, on 2019 PGA Tour, pros made 42.9% of 10-footers and 80.2% of 5-footers.  That's with weather and reading breaks.  We can't compare our indoor perfect condition make percentages to that, but it is somewhat of a benchmark.

Indeed i do enjoy it. Being part of the test group, I’ve had it since June.   I enjoy the practice mode when working on my face control and challenge when working on pace. 

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56 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

  I enjoy the practice mode when working on my face control and challenge when working on pace. 

..and Play mode on a rainy day when the wife says: "Let's have a putting contest!" ☺️

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..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) 
..Cleveland CBX-2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite)
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19 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

..and Play mode on a rainy day when the wife says: "Let's have a putting contest!" ☺️

Yes. I suspect there will be several play challenges this winter in our clubhouse during days we are closed due to weather. 

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Absolutely love how quick EXPUTT is to setup and tear back down. It's living in our spare bedroom where I have a perfect spot for it. 

I've been using it a lot, mostly 10-20 minutes here and there. Great little device.

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On 7/23/2020 at 11:08 AM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Here you go!  You don't have to wait   Visit EXPutt and enter code EXPUTT&MyGolfSpy10 for the discount

This code still works; I just bought this today. Really appreciate all of the feedback from this thread!

On 11/25/2020 at 1:32 PM, edingc said:

Absolutely love how quick EXPUTT is to setup and tear back down. It's living in our spare bedroom where I have a perfect spot for it. 

I've been using it a lot, mostly 10-20 minutes here and there. Great little device.

Do you roll it up / put it away each time or generally let it sit? I'm trying to decide if I want to put it in the bedroom or living room. 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Mattz said:

This code still works; I just bought this today. Really appreciate all of the feedback from this thread!

Do you roll it up / put it away each time or generally let it sit? I'm trying to decide if I want to put it in the bedroom or living room. 

 

 

Awesome on the code!  Thanks for following along in the thread. 

Today was a great day for it.  Torrential rain all day had the course closed.  So some practice mode was in order along with a challenge to the Head Pro.  

I see it getting a lot of use this winter. 

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7 hours ago, Mattz said:

This code still works; I just bought this today. Really appreciate all of the feedback from this thread!

Do you roll it up / put it away each time or generally let it sit? I'm trying to decide if I want to put it in the bedroom or living room. 

 

 

I roll it up. The material unrolls perfectly flat.

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Do you roll it up / put it away each time or generally let it sit? I'm trying to decide if I want to put it in the bedroom or living room. 
 
 

I roll mine up and put everything away after I am done. Setup time is
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12 hours ago, Mattz said:

Do you roll it up / put it away each time or generally let it sit? I'm trying to decide if I want to put it in the bedroom or living room. 

I carved out a space in the basement for this, so it stays set up. It really is quick and easy to unroll and align the camera but it's a nice convenience to just have it ready to go if you have a spot!

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..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) 
..Cleveland CBX-2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite)
...Edel EAS 4.0 (stock shaft, zero offset hosel, round grip)
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I leave it on the floor, but folded over in half just so the putting surface doesn’t get dusty, or dog hairs, etc.  Even if you roll it up, it does unfold perfectly flat. 

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2 hours ago, Finky999 said:

dusty, or dog hairs, etc

I keep a pet hair pickup brush next to the mat .. as an important accessory! 🤣

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..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) 
..Cleveland CBX-2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite)
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I keep a pet hair pickup brush next to the mat .. as an important accessory! [emoji1787]

I do as well!
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Ordered one on black Friday after seeing no discounts on rainorshinegolf.com and not seeing the ability to order direct and ship to Canada. 

Still haven't received confirmation that the shipment has been sent 😞

This is starting to feel like my custom ordered EVNROLL that won't be ready until January.

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